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Originally posted by miniatus
Chavez is motivated by politics.. his gestures are there to convince people he's less than horrible .. And by the fact you posted this, it's worked to some degree.. don't get me wrong, it's great he's done it .. and he can keep on doing it.. I won't mind! but his motivations are less than admirable.
Originally posted by nightbringr
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
reply to post by nightbringr
Foreign Aid Per Capita
This link suggests otherwise.
Reguardless.
He is communist. I will never trade my freedom for warmth.
Originally posted by nightbringr
Originally posted by AzureSky
Helping heat grannies house with some of his oil? Thats pretty nice of him to help support some americans. Seeing as how the american government won't.
Its not the governments job to heat my house. I want as little government intrusion in my life as possible.
They should build infrastructure, defend our borders and be responsible for law enforcement on a local and national level. Not being heartless, i also think a welfare system should be in place to provide for those mentally or physically disabled, but not the capable working folk. Those people who choose not to work shouldnt take away from those who do.
Originally posted by nightbringr
Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
reply to post by nightbringr
I cannot know what his intentions are, but I look at his record with his own people and he has continued along that path which is taking care of the poor and middle class first.
And he is also shutting down free press left right and center. I believe last year the last free voice of the people was muzzled.
www.time.com...
That article shows how he and his party have systematically muzzled the free press in his country. Its kind of hard for people to speak out against his policies when they have no voice, isnt it?
I dont think you realize how serious the banning of a free press is. People cannot speak out, other political parties have no voice. True communism in effect. I have no doubt they are now a one party government.edit on 2-2-2012 by nightbringr because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
reply to post by miniatus
Yes allegations of voter fraud has been going on since he was first elected. I am fully aware that dictators often hold dummie elections, we do here in the US too (contrary to what most believe). Is he a dictator? I don't know maybe he is maybe he isn't. He obviously has a lot of enemies, especially in the high rung of society and history has shown that with enough funding you can find "professionals" to make an argument that the sky is red, if that is your agenda. Money rules the world, and truth is usually the first victim if it is in the way.
Let me say one thing however, if it is true that he is rigging votes and shutting down free press then he is no better than those that he demonizes.edit on 2-2-2012 by Chewingonmushrooms because: (no reason given)
The Treasury Department has the third largest expense in the federal budget. Only Defense and income redistribution (The Departments of Health and Human Services, HUD, and Agriculture (food stamps)) is higher. As the debt increases, so does the interest payment. Social spending is the largest item in our federal budget.
The weakening of Venezuela’s democratic system of checks and balances under President Hugo Chávez has contributed to a precarious human rights situation. Without judicial checks on its actions, the government has systematically undermined the right to free expression, workers’ freedom of association, and the ability of human rights groups to protect rights.
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
Hugo Chavez is demonized by the U.S at the same time he is offering help to those 99%, in addition to his oil for the poor program he also is responsible for heating around 250 homeless shelters around the U.S and economic programs for Native-Americans.
In my opinion this is a showcase of the US's double standards of presenting themselves as the forefront of democracy and freedom, while at the same time funding coups against democratically elected governments around the world.
rt.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Originally posted by ManBehindTheMask
Originally posted by Dimitri Dzengalshlevi
Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
Chavez is a piece of crap Communist.
Every Venezuelan expat I have talked to despises this communist piece of dung.
Yeah, such a "piece of crap" that his government took land from the elite so it could be used to produce food for the people. Also he put medical centres on practically every block of his country, including in the slums. That's free medical, by the way.
Such a "piece of crap" that the CIA tried to replace him with a more compliant military regime, only to release him two days later after massive uprisings by his population. That's real democracy, by the way, but I guess democracy only happens in corporate America, eh?
Yeah have you seen the shape these medical centers are in and the tech they are using and the qualifications of alot of the staff?
P.s. YOu DO know how much land our gov contracts from farmers here in the US to feed not only the US but other countries.............are you even aware of how much of the worlds food is produced right here in the United States?
nightbringr-
Oh yeah. Free. Of course the doctors require no pay, the medicine is free and so on. We all know it comes from tax money, which the people pay for. There is no such thing as free, even in countries with free medicare. You know that as well as I, dont you Dimirti, your a Canadian too.
Riiiiiiiiiiiiight. Because we all know the government is the best people to be running any business.
The governments of the world have proven time and time again they are the LEAST capable people to run a business. Why? Because a good business is an efficient business and we all know that governments are horribly inefficient.
Magnificient-
He is a communist and the poor are weak toward communistic ideas such as nationalized health care, subsidized housing, fuel, groceries, etc.
Originally posted by mike_trivisonno
Chavez is a piece of crap Communist.
Every Venezuelan expat I have talked to despises this communist piece of dung.
Originally posted by SkurkNilsen
Hugo Chavez is demonized by the U.S at the same time he is offering help to those 99%, in addition to his oil for the poor program he also is responsible for heating around 250 homeless shelters around the U.S and economic programs for Native-Americans.
In my opinion this is a showcase of the US's double standards of presenting themselves as the forefront of democracy and freedom, while at the same time funding coups against democratically elected governments around the world.
rt.com
(visit the link for the full news article)
Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by SkurkNilsen
And which country donates more money and resources to other countries than any other country in the world? The USA.
Originally posted by insaan
Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by SkurkNilsen
And which country donates more money and resources to other countries than any other country in the world? The USA.
You should have used the word "regimes" instead of "countries". US gives "quote unquote" "aid" to regimes around the world not for the people, most people recognize it as bribery.
Wanna make a bet? How about $10,000? 65% of 10,000 leaves 3,500 and 65% of 1,000 leaves 350. The latter is more generous.
Originally posted by nightbringr
reply to post by SkurkNilsen
And which country donates more money and resources to other countries than any other country in the world? The USA.
Its all relative. Im not a huge fan of US foreign policy either. Hugo likes to make himself look good, all the while suppressing freedoms in his own country. Oldest trick in the book.