Lake Vostok Antarctica: breakthrough imminent.

A video about the THE LOST WORLD OF LAKE VOSTOK :
www.youtube.com...#!

It appears the Russian scientists have found a lake full of vodka and will comment later. No, but seriously this must be the best news I have heard in my lifetime.

Originally posted by jazz10
Arken i would like to add a link to your thread, i am not trying to bump my own at all ok its just i feel info regarding the area in general is minimal and thought i would include my thread link that involves the IceCube Neutrino Observatory now i am well aware that it seems off topic but if you even have a quick read, you will see why i felt compelled to post.

I am not sure if it is anywhere near the location but within the thread are a couple of informative links.....


Here is the link Here

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Here are some images that may show you what i am getting at.






THIS NEXT IMAGE YOU REALLY NEED TO SEE. 666
6 across
6 Sides
6 to the center


Just maybe that they are not finished. Hexagon.


Now please prove me wrong, please. Out of sight out of mind. Could this really be the location.


ohhh goodness something else has just dawned on me in relation to the last image. Could it explain the strange sounds from the sky.


Edit to add relevant pieces
Neutrino

A neutrino ( /njuːˈtriːnoʊ/; Italian pronunciation: [neuˈtriːno]) is an electrically neutral, weakly interacting elementary subatomic particle[1] with a half-integer spin, chirality. The neutrino (meaning "small neutral one" in Italian) is denoted by the Greek letter ν (nu). All evidence suggests that neutrinos have mass and that their mass is tiny even by the standards of subatomic particles, but the amount of mass has never been measured accurately. Neutrinos do not carry electric charge, which means that they are not affected by the electromagnetic forces that act on charged particles such as electrons and protons. Neutrinos are affected only by the weak sub-atomic force, of much shorter range than electromagnetism, and gravity, which is relatively weak on the subatomic scale. They are therefore able to travel great distances through matter without being affected by it. Neutrinos are created as a result of certain types of radioactive decay, or nuclear reactions such as those that take place in the Sun, in nuclear reactors, or when cosmic rays hit atoms. There are three types, or "flavors", of neutrinos: electron neutrinos, muon neutrinos and tau neutrinos. Each type also has a corresponding antiparticle, called an antineutrino with an opposite chirality. Most neutrinos passing through the Earth emanate from the Sun. About 65 billion (6.5×1010) solar neutrinos per second pass through every square centimeter perpendicular to the direction of the Sun in the region of the Earth.[2] In September 2011, neutrinos apparently moving faster than light were detected (see Faster-than-light neutrino anomaly). Since then the experiment has undergone extensive critique and efforts to replicate the results because confirming the results would change our understanding of the theory of relativity. In November 2011, the experiment was refined and yielded the same result.

You may also want to check out the Neutrino (disambiguation)

In addition to my last post above further connections and a bigger picture
Neutrino Factory

The Neutrino Factory is a proposed particle accelerator complex intended to measure in detail the properties of neutrinos, which are extremely weakly interacting fundamental particles that can travel in straight lines through normal matter for thousands of kilometres. Up until the 1990s, neutrinos were assumed to be massless, but inconsistent experimental results from searches for solar neutrinos (those produced in the Sun's core) and others, indicated that the neutrino does in fact have a very small mass

Does anyone see a connection yet?

Function The Neutrino Factory will create a fairly focused beam of neutrinos at one site on the Earth and fire it downwards, probably in two beams emitted in different directions from a racetrack shaped underground muon storage ring, until the beams resurface at other points. One example could be a complex in the UK sending beams to Japan (see Super-Kamiokande) and Italy (LNGS). The properties of the neutrinos will be examined at the remote sites to determine how neutrinos evolve over time. This will provide information about their masses and weak interaction properties.[1] The project is currently in the conceptual design stage. An international "Scoping Study" was completed in 2007 and an international effort to write a design report has now begun. Many new technologies are being pioneered for this experiment, including the use of liquid metal jets as a pion production target, under test in the MERIT experiment, the use of Fixed Field Alternating Gradient (FFAG) accelerators, under test in the EMMA experiment, and liquid hydrogen energy reduction cavities for reducing the divergence in the muon beam during the intermediate stages.

Ring any bells?

I just read that the russian researchers who are at the Vostak station haven't been heard from in 5 days and they arn't able to contact them. A little odd!

reply to post by MechEng09


Funny you mentioned that. I heard the same thing on the radio last night. Nobody knows where they all are according to the report. If true, this puts a whole new twist to this.

I don't understand the problem with drilling. Why don't they use inductive heating drill, and a high pressure pump to suck created water, throughout the heated tube?. A 2km deep hole would need over a 200 bar pressure pump, which is easily obtainable.
So what's the problem Russians? And what's the problem rest of the world to tell Russians about simple method of drilling ice?

Please read this post! HERE Possibly massive info! Particularly the text in RED

Originally posted by jazz10

Originally posted by jazz10
Arken i would like to add a link to your thread, i am not trying to bump my own at all ok its just i feel info regarding the area in general is minimal and thought i would include my thread link that involves the IceCube Neutrino Observatory now i am well aware that it seems off topic but if you even have a quick read, you will see why i felt compelled to post.

I am not sure if it is anywhere near the location but within the thread are a couple of informative links.....


Here is the link Here

edit on 3-2-2012 by jazz10 because: (no reason given)

Here are some images that may show you what i am getting at.






THIS NEXT IMAGE YOU REALLY NEED TO SEE. 666
6 across
6 Sides
6 to the center


Just maybe that they are not finished. Hexagon.


Now please prove me wrong, please. Out of sight out of mind. Could this really be the location.

edit on 3-2-2012 by jazz10 because: (no reason given)

ohhh goodness something else has just dawned on me in relation to the last image. Could it explain the strange sounds from the sky.

edit on 3-2-2012 by jazz10 because: (no reason given)

Edit to add relevant pieces
Neutrino

A neutrino ( /njuːˈtriːnoʊ/; Italian pronunciation: [neuˈtriːno]) is an electrically neutral, weakly interacting elementary subatomic particle[1] with a half-integer spin, chirality. The neutrino (meaning "small neutral one" in Italian) is denoted by the Greek letter ν (nu). All evidence suggests that neutrinos have mass and that their mass is tiny even by the standards of subatomic particles, but the amount of mass has never been measured accurately. Neutrinos do not carry electric charge, which means that they are not affected by the electromagnetic forces that act on charged particles such as electrons and protons. Neutrinos are affected only by the weak sub-atomic force, of much shorter range than electromagnetism, and gravity, which is relatively weak on the subatomic scale. They are therefore able to travel great distances through matter without being affected by it. Neutrinos are created as a result of certain types of radioactive decay, or nuclear reactions such as those that take place in the Sun, in nuclear reactors, or when cosmic rays hit atoms. There are three types, or "flavors", of neutrinos: electron neutrinos, muon neutrinos and tau neutrinos. Each type also has a corresponding antiparticle, called an antineutrino with an opposite chirality. Most neutrinos passing through the Earth emanate from the Sun. About 65 billion (6.5×1010) solar neutrinos per second pass through every square centimeter perpendicular to the direction of the Sun in the region of the Earth.[2] In September 2011, neutrinos apparently moving faster than light were detected (see Faster-than-light neutrino anomaly). Since then the experiment has undergone extensive critique and efforts to replicate the results because confirming the results would change our understanding of the theory of relativity. In November 2011, the experiment was refined and yielded the same result.

You may also want to check out the Neutrino (disambiguation)

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Hey there! Glad to see you again, my friend!

Very interesting informations, Jazz! As usual.

I Need to dig a bit on it.

reply to post by Arken


Ive just posted a thread on it to get attention to this. Here is the link. Here

I think that this is massive and beyond coincidence. Check out particularly the image below the red text! 666 Do you see what i am talking about here?

reply to post by jazz10


Forgive me but I think you're perhaps being a bit over zealous on this observatory thing.. you're posting the information everywhere .. reposting, cross-posting.. the mods may not take kindly to that.. and for those trying to catch up.. we keep re-reading and re-reading it .. I am not belittling your theory at all .. I personally don't really see any connection, I see two separate operations with two entirely separate goals .. except that they deal with ice at great depths .. and drills =)

Now as for the topic at hand... I've been trying to catch up .. I understand that the Russians have denied that they are missing .. I wonder if they just have a different opinion on what "missing" means than we do? or if they are communicating but not with their american counterparts?

I also hate the idea that they are dumping tons of kerosene down that hole... literally tons

Cool story. Wouldn't count on any doom, however. Could be likely that one of the scientists contracts a disease of some sorts and dies. No biggie.

Love the "like exploring an alien planet" comment. CONDITIONING PROJECT!!!11one

Originally posted by 3danimator

Originally posted by Char-Lee

Originally posted by Zecharia
Heres a link with some interesting views on possible reasons for the magnetic anomaly.

Whats is happening at the south pole

Whatever they find, it will probably be literal years before they tell the public...stupid people all we do is pay the bills! Hoping Russia will be more forthcoming with info, but if there is a possible bio or other weapon to be had i doubt it.

You do realise that they probably wont find anything earth shattering in there right? And to talk about a bio or other (what other could that be??) weapon is, frankly, ridiculous.

And as for the public paying for this venture. Do we know this? Do we know if its publicly or privately funded?

Why does everything have to be doom and gloom with you guys? Sheesh

Guess you are not into reality. Ever read up on biological warfare past and present? Can't understand how anyone alive today could think they (all Govs.) are not in the market for and searching both earth and space for new germs to weaponize!

They have already found interesting biology I am not sure what you would call earth shattering!

As for public money..wow do you really think no public funds go into antarctic-stations and research? Sheesh!

Great thread!
I remember reading about this drilling already 2-3 years ago. Basically it was same fears as presented in this thread: contamination, deadly virus spreading, etc. etc.

But this year it brings more circumstances and "coincidences".

-Magnetic Anomaly
- US and russia co-operation
- World's largest enterpreneurs traveling to antarctica just as drill is 40 feet away. I mean think about James Cameron, he's known for passion of exploring sea. Far fetched coincidence if you ask me.
- Missing scientists - THIS is worrying. May be nothing, but may as well be another "coincidence".

Are there any official sources highlighting role of NSA in this whole operation? Someone wrote that they took this research from JPL and claimed side of lake for themselves. For what purpose, they want to make another drill or what?

This is by far best and most promising thread on ATS since Jerusalem UFO hoax.

reply to post by Chance321


Yeah I was thinking the same. Could be an airborne virus that our bodies can't fight off due to its 20 million year age. Think of the pressure. It's like a 20 million year old can of soda thats been shook up. It could explode, or it could do nothing. We never know, we will jist have to wait and see. I am excited to see what organisims can survive such extreme conditions.

Originally posted by piotrburz
I don't understand the problem with drilling. Why don't they use inductive heating drill, and a high pressure pump to suck created water, throughout the heated tube?. A 2km deep hole would need over a 200 bar pressure pump, which is easily obtainable.
So what's the problem Russians? And what's the problem rest of the world to tell Russians about simple method of drilling ice?

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I think they said the problem is immediate refreezing and when they leave for the season they have start over as the season is to short.

Originally posted by otie1
reply to post by Chance321

 

Yeah I was thinking the same. Could be an airborne virus that our bodies can't fight off due to its 20 million year age. Think of the pressure. It's like a 20 million year old can of soda thats been shook up. It could explode, or it could do nothing. We never know, we will jist have to wait and see. I am excited to see what organisims can survive such extreme conditions.

Would be odd for an airborne virus miles deep in water though.. I really suspect that if anything is living in that water, it probably wouldn't survive long once it hit the air.. especially if the estimates of 20 million years are near correct.. imagine an ecosystem that is acclimated to an environment for millions of years ( even if not 20 ) .. suddenly you take them out of it and put them into something else entirely .. I almost think of taking a human and putting him in space without protection.. we'd be dead in no time.

Originally posted by Char-Lee

I think they said the problem is immediate refreezing and when they leave for the season they have start over as the season is to short.

They also said that the ice shifts, so to prevent the whole from shutting as the ice moves.. they filled the hole with kerosene that won't freeze and helps keep the pressure .. they said there was literally tons of kerosene poured in .. scarry

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yes, they do say that curiosity killed the cat.. but who's curiosity? We all know that some civilizations do love a tasty kitty...

reply to post by WillHal1000


yes, they do say that curiosity killed the cat.. but who's curiosity? We all know that some civilizations do love a tasty kitty...