Lake Vostok Antarctica: breakthrough imminent.

They are all dead.


PS. I am gonna have to say it, I did in fact Tell You So!!!!!!!!!!!!

This was a bad idea by the Russians.

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At long last we are going to fulfill humanitys apparent ambition to contaminate, distort and/or destroy every last square millimetre of nature's untouched natural and mysterious beauty.

This is the beginning of the end for humanity as a whole, and I hope for the earths sake it really is this time, before we do more damage than nature can heal from.

Originally posted by wingsfan
Just to let yall know, that lake might be 15-20 million years old, but the water is relatively new. There is other lakes and it is damn near accepted that there is river-like passages connecting some of them. Water down there has probably been totally replaced a bazillion times over. That water is no older then 13-14 thousand years old.

The pressure from the ice keeps the deep water from melting. And though chances are good for some life (microbial), it is pretty much not possible for anything "advanced" to come out of there. So we can hopefully now dial back the fear mongering and outlandish sci-fi scenarios.

That would be a bummer, I was hoping of catching the Big One.

Ok, lets go with that and forget the water. I'm more interested in the areas near the shore of the lake. Most animals and humans for that matter tend to be near water as its required to survive. What if we find housing,human fossil,etc..... that would throw a hammer into what we claim to know.

Another interesting story, perhaps related to the drilling just came out.

18 Mile Crack seen by Nasa on Antarctica

Even if it has nothing to do with the drilling, it is interesting that many Antarctica related reports are coming out.

Originally posted by 3danimator
Why does everything have to be doom and gloom with you guys? Sheesh

I would think that is because doom and gloom usually goes in hand with conspiracies and this is a conspiracy site I believe?

Originally posted by ujustneverknow
Why can't we Humans just leave anything alone? I understand the importance of Science and all but seriously , why do we have to stick our noses in everything?

I hope it's worth it....I think it's a shame , 20 million years of being un-touched....

say that to all the rich oil men out there

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Two miles of ice on top of 5000 feet of 60'F water in -40'F temps plus the pressure of the magma vents possibility of thin earth crust under the lake. A lot to consider. Imagine the equipment failure rate at -40 soon to be -80 temps I think the lowest temp recorded there was -140'F.

To be honest i didnt even think of that scenario. Thats what i call sharing of theories and possibilities. Rather than senseless off topic posts.
All possibilities need to be brought into question and dismissed. Nice one

Originally posted by jazz10
I am starring this thread and flagging simply for the update and the sharing of knowledge and not praising any actions what so ever of the imbeciles that feel this is acceptable. I say this because i dont believe they have considered all possibilities.
Its not my conspiracy mind ticking here, i can only explain it as of a touch of worry. Its very rare that a thread would make me feel like that. The last one was the Gulf of Mexico oil spill.

I just wonder,.....oh by the way i am no scientist or anything of the sort so if i am worrying about the following then i am assuming they are, they have and they did, and that they are only continuing due to everything else being investigated.
My worries or concerns.

1 The risk of infecting the lake with "our" bacteria and poisons. (whether it be debris or oil from the drill or just carelessness, i would even go as far as saying from our atmosphere)

2Have they considered the fact that what we are in the duration of our existence and whats to say that something similar couldnt have evolved to a similar extent.

3 Given the current sky sounds, solar storms and in particular the polar reversal that i have read here on ATS have all of these been taken into account and also happen to be concerned about the technology that is currently in place like the HAARP system but more concerned about the Large Hadron Collider and any possible connections to these.?

4 Is there a possibility that oxygen in such high concentrations can be released and if so would there be any effects on either the planet or the lake that has remained buried for so long?


This is in no way scare mongering i just pray that caution is adhered to and that there are no hidden agendas behind the operation that could be negative to the planet.
p.s Is this where ET intervention comes in to stop stupidity or is it part of the next stage before the return?

Maybe i should of posted this before they were any where near getting to breaking through.

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Note this is translated from a Russian source so some of the words may not be properly translated

Scientists have refuted the information about the disappearance of an expedition to Antarctica:

MOSCOW, February 3 - RIA Novosti. Representative of the Institute of Arctic and Antarctic Hydromet (AARI) has denied the information about the disappearance of the Russian expedition to drill ice of Lake Vostok in Antarctica, promulgated by some media with reference to American scientists.

On Friday there were reports that Russian scientists "do not come to us the last five days," referring to the professor of ecology at the University of Montana, John Prisco.

"The Russian expedition daily, several times a day passes meteorological data staff ... Contact us via satellite phone available, but it is only in the case of force majeure. None of what we know of the extraordinary cases, such calls have been received," - said the head of the press service of the AARI Sergei ladder.

On the eve of Thursday on the website of the institute was in normal mode once published a report on the activities of the expedition.

Seasonal work of the 57th Russian Antarctic Expedition (RAE) to drill the ice above Lake Vostok began January 2, 2012. All of this season will end on February 5, after the contact of the drilling rig from the water column of the lake and a set of special operations. Then the experts - employees AARI - return to drilling only in December 2012 to obtain samples of fresh frozen waters of the lake, past the hole, and to investigate them.

How many days of no response before someone goes in to check on them? Or is this just Russia making everyone else jealous?

watch out for sleestacks

Originally posted by thestinger
Another interesting story, perhaps related to the drilling just came out.

18 Mile Crack seen by Nasa on Antarctica

Even if it has nothing to do with the drilling, it is interesting that many Antarctica related reports are coming out.

Stupid question but how close exactly is this crack in relation to the Vostok drilling site? Just asking. And also if i may add is there any news of any explosives being used in the area, volcanic eruptions/ activity or EQ's? I am asking because what if it has a domino effect as such? Something must be amiss because i read one post that mentions superbugs?

Nope, not scaremongering just genuinely interested/concerned in the situation and events that some felt had to be done while not exploring all possibilities and outcomes. I genuinely pray for the best, i do, but i cant help but feel that some people and organizations are too busy thinking of profit and what they will gain before the welfare of the Planet and all of its other inhabitants.

It looks like they have resumed drilling but I'm not 100% sure. The article appears to be written or updated on 3/2/2012.

Also lots of conspiracies to be made if you look at the projected date:

experts will return to drill only in December 2012 to obtain samples of fresh frozen waters of the lake, past the hole, and to investigate them

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03/02/2012 15:56

MOSCOW, February 3 - RIA Novosti.

Russian specialists, major drilling to subglacial lake Vostok in Antarctica, have resumed work, told RIA Novosti the spokesperson of the Arctic and Antarctic Research Institute of Hydromet (AARI) Sergei ladder.

"Drilling has resumed after a short break for the necessary maintenance work. We can not yet predict exactly when the border will come to the ice-water, as there are several methods for the determination of this border, and they have all the precision of plus or minus 20 meters," - said the ladder.

Earlier it was reported that professionals need to clarify the diameter of the hole in the bottom section and drilled it to continue.

Lake Vostok in Antarctica, hidden under the thick ice chetyrehkilometrovoy, is a unique aquatic ecosystem, isolated from the Earth's atmosphere and surface of the biosphere for millions of years. The study of ice cores from wells and the forthcoming study of the lake itself plays a huge role in building a scenario of natural climate changes in the next millennium.

Drilling of ice have been suspended at a depth of 3734-3738,5 meters. From 17 to January 19, staff research station measured the pressure of the pouring of liquid and had a caliper (measured in the course of the curve which are changing the diameter of the borehole with depth). In addition, they conducted a directional survey (the definition of the spatial position of borehole) and selected samples of pouring the liquid over the whole depth of the well.

Deep drilling in the vicinity of Vostok Station in Antarctica began in the 1970s, when the existence of the reservoir was not yet known, scientists are beginning to paleoclimatic studies. In 1996, Russian experts with the help of British scientists discovered deep in the Antarctic ice lake, which is one of the largest freshwater on the planet. Subsequently, the researchers obtained data on its size and shape, the thickness of the ice sheet, as well as underwater topography and sediments by radio and seismic sounding.

In 1998, deep drilling has been suspended over the lake, where the relic to the waters of the lake was about 130 meters of ice. Then asked the international community does not penetrate into the aqueous layer of the reservoir until the appearance of a special technology, it minimizes the possible contamination. This technology was developed in the St. Petersburg Mining Institute in 2003, during the 26th Consultative Meeting Antarctic Treaty, the international community agreed with the Russian proposals. Work on deep drilling was resumed in 2005.

Seasonal work of the 57th Russian Antarctic Expedition (RAE) to drill the ice above Lake Vostok began January 2, 2012. All of this season will end on February 5, after the contact of the drilling rig from the water column of the lake and a set of special operations. Then the experts will return to drill only in December 2012 to obtain samples of fresh frozen waters of the lake, past the hole, and to investigate them.

It could be like " Journey to the center of the Earth " where there might be huge areas not under water where life, including mammalian exist, maybe even human type forms. And maybe the lake feeds that life there. Could maybe be some prehistoric creatures there too. I understand that the lake is actually part of a web or network of lakes and underground rivers. This could get very exciting.

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And accoridng to Fox News from 2-3-2012, nbow they can't reach those guys!!!!! Any one have a guess as to what happened t othem?????????

A group of Russian scientists plumbing the frozen Antarctic in search of a lake buried in ice for tens of millions of years have failed to respond to increasingly anxious U.S. colleagues -- and as the days creep by, the fate of the team remains unknown.

"No word from the ice for 5 days," Dr. John Priscu professor of Ecology at Montana State University, told FoxNews.com via email.


Read more: www.foxnews.com...

Another year to study samples? Damn scientists. I wanna consume it now. All I need to know is how much is a bottle.
Gore with his cronies are surely drinking it right now between stem cell cocktails, vodka and nude dancing around a geyser.That's why they are offline.

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HOW ABOUT PEOPLE READ ALL POSTS THEN REPLY FOR CRYING OUT LOUD!!!!!!
Yes i am SHOUTING!

ARE YOU READING?

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Very far, i very much doubt they are related. The ice berg is formed over sea at the edge of Antarctica and Vostock is on land...

ETA: Approx 1,180 miles according to Google Earth

Originally posted by dancbr
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And accoridng to Fox News from 2-3-2012, nbow they can't reach those guys!!!!! Any one have a guess as to what happened t othem?????????

A group of Russian scientists plumbing the frozen Antarctic in search of a lake buried in ice for tens of millions of years have failed to respond to increasingly anxious U.S. colleagues -- and as the days creep by, the fate of the team remains unknown.

"No word from the ice for 5 days," Dr. John Priscu professor of Ecology at Montana State University, told FoxNews.com via email.


Read more: www.foxnews.com...

Russia appear to deny that they are missing. see my previous 2 posts.

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Note this is translated from a Russian source so some of the words may not be properly translated

Scientists have refuted the information about the disappearance of an expedition to Antarctica:

MOSCOW, February 3 - RIA Novosti. Representative of the Institute of Arctic and Antarctic Hydromet (AARI) has denied the information about the disappearance of the Russian expedition to drill ice of Lake Vostok in Antarctica, promulgated by some media with reference to American scientists.

Arken i would like to add a link to your thread, i am not trying to bump my own at all ok its just i feel info regarding the area in general is minimal and thought i would include my thread link that involves the IceCube Neutrino Observatory now i am well aware that it seems off topic but if you even have a quick read, you will see why i felt compelled to post.

I am not sure if it is anywhere near the location but within the thread are a couple of informative links.....


Here is the link Here