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WRONG... This is the problem with socialists and communists who have never experienced what they claim is so marvelous... Let's actually see the 10 planks of communism...AGAIN...
It is in socialism and in communism that all power is centralized.
BTW capitalism is an economic principle, it is not a form of government...
Really?... Let's actually read about it from a LEFTWING source...
Oh boy, oh boy... A cooperative enterprise is a BUSINESS owned and operated by a few individuals for THEIR mutual benefit... But how can anyone own anything when in socialism and communism private property is abolished?... The STATE/government claims to represent the people owns the means of production, hence why government and corporations are tied in together IN SOCIALISM and COMMUNISM...
Originally posted by AzureSky
Its not just Rockefeller though, but that is definitely one of the big ones my friend. I am also in the same boat as you with these feelings. This form of capitalism has been warped and is really just a disguised oligarchy. We need people to be treated with respect,
No more illegal wars
No more taking advantage of developing countries and people
No more dictatorship support
Peacekeepers rather than soldiers
The truth will be revealed, and it will sweep the world over, and the elite will have a whole big problem to contend with, the rest of us. Financial tyranny.
We need something like. Meritocracy. Rule by the competent and compassionate rather than the rich sleezbags that have no connection with the average person.
Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by dadgad
what delusion. my god.
is the workers paradise equal to god in your case?
capitalism has nothing, NADA to do with number of owners.
thats just a ridiculous assumption.
again, totally delusional.
even better, communism has ONE OWNER - THE STATE, aka BIG BROTHER.
There you go. If a few owners are bad, imagine ONE owner, quell horror!edit on 3-2-2012 by BBalazs because: (no reason given)
Denmark is one of the most competitive economies in the world according to World Economic Forum 2008 report, IMD and The Economist.[76] According to rankings by OECD, Denmark has the most free financial markets in EU-15 and also one of the most free product markets.
Originally posted by BBalazs
reply to post by dadgad
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propaganda campaign..? right.... to what goal? you obviously have little idea of history, and how this whole thing went down.
Originally posted by ANOK
Why do you keep making these ridiculous claims, that I, and others, have already addressed numerous times in this thread?
Originally posted by ANOK
Again there have been no socialist/communist countries, period.
Originally posted by ANOK
Please stop associating what we are talking about with so called despot dictatorships. It's crap and annoying and not helping anything.
Originally posted by ANOK
It just shows you haven't researched the subject and just believe the party line. You're worse than a Russian 'communist'. You are trying to stifle the discussion with nonsense, and refusing to even consider what is being said for a second.
Originally posted by ANOK
Don't bend, you might break eh? Again I suggest you read through this thread and stop just being a blind skeptic. Take your blinders off.
Originally posted by ANOK
Unless the workers democratically own the means to produce it is not socialism, period. If it doesn't fit the definition then it is something else. No matter what lying political leaders call themselves.
Socialism /ˈsoʊʃəlɪzəm/ is an economic system characterized by social ownership or control of the means of production and cooperative management of the economy,(1) and a political philosophy advocating such a system. "Social ownership" may refer to any one of, or a combination of, the following: cooperative enterprises, common ownership, direct public ownership or autonomous state enterprises.(2) There are many variations of socialism and as such there is no single definition encapsulating all of socialism.(3) They differ in the type of social ownership they advocate, the degree to which they rely on markets versus planning, how management is to be organized within economic enterprises, and the role of the state in constructing socialism.(4)
Originally posted by dadgad
It did leave documents. And Antony C. Sutton found them.
Now to what extend they controlled the Sovjets is debatable. The conflict was real clearly. But it's extensively been proven that is has been financed since the beginning until beyond the 2WW. They even made sure they got the bomb.
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