Hippy Do-Gooders have Destroyed the World

Actually the hippies are the cause of quite a few of today's problems.

The lax "let them be them" parenting style was a massive failure. Free love brought us a whole list of new STD's that spread rapidly. The every child can be whatever they want to be philosophy has created a generation of self important dimwits who think they are somehow owed a better existence. Sorry folks, but if little Bueford can't tie his shoes by the time he is 12 there is a very slim chance he will get to fly the next space shuttle or be a neurosurgeon. At what point do we stop lying to these kids? We aren't doing them any favors by setting them up for a big letdown. There is nothing wrong with going into the skilled trades, plumbers and electricians make a good living.

Now we give trophies to every kid who shows up at a tournament, every kid. I read a story a few weeks ago about a football league adopting a rule so that one exceptional player couldn't score more than 3 touchdowns, to try and make it more fair to the other kids. Are they serious? It's no wonder they don't work hard to achieve higher goals, they get rewarded just for showing up.


One of my college professors told me once that when the kids with beards are pushing the establishments causes we have lost. The global warming fiasco is proof that that has already occured. Carbon trading was the brainchild of ken Lay, the ENRON guy. He recognized that the energy business had the most to gain by global warming legislation, and big oil has given over a half billion dollars to furtering the cause, they want your paying more for your enegy, trust me on this one. And when you heavily subsidize energy you drive the cost of all energy up. It's pretty simple math, just follow the money.

If today's environmentalists would focus on real problems like clean water or ocean resource depletion they might actually make a difference. But destroying the economy because you think a vital gas to life is somehow killing us all is just plain stupid.

And if I see that polar bear commercial with Noah Wyle again I might just quit watching TV. The person who wrote that report is under federal investigation for fraud. Turns out the polar bears are thriving, numbers are way up. Today there are 30,000 polar bears worldwide, compared to 5,000 in 1970. That hardly sounds like a species on the decline, it's why they can't get them on the endangered list in spite of trying very hard. There are so many polar bears they are shooting them on a regular basis in Canada for getting into towns.

go put on your wal mart levi's and drive your stupid huge truck around with your beerbelly and tell your dumb wal mart jean wearing friends who drive big trucks how stupid democrats are cus they care about stuff. SEE OTHER PEOPLE CAN STEREOTYPE TOO

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don't confuse the likes of bill Clinton & mitt Romney and a lot of other judges, lawyers, ceo's and other assorted congress persons with the Hippies


~as i see it Clinton & Romney to point out two known people who are from the social revolution of the 1960s
and thus bumped elbows with real Hippie types...are the nut jobs your talking about...~

those two public figures are both around 63-64 years old & were in their early 20s during the peace movement and counter culture revolution... but they surely ain't Hippie material


Obama was 10 years old at the time of Woodstock Nation so he ain't no Hippie either


You are getting confused between the Radicals & the Hippie counter culture

the Radicals & self interested chose to become the Earth Firster's, the radical PETA and other assorted activities

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The 60s, 70s and 80s saw a lot of these idiots into the corridors of power.
Probably one of the reason's the ptb are so screwed up and messing with liberty's so much...
Ironic really.

Originally posted by St Udio
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don't confuse the likes of bill Clinton & mitt Romney and a lot of other judges, lawyers, ceo's and other assorted congress persons with the Hippies


~as i see it Clinton & Romney to point out two known people who are from the social revolution of the 1960s
and thus bumped elbows with real Hippie types...are the nut jobs your talking about...~

those two public figures are both around 63-64 years old & were in their early 20s during the peace movement and counter culture revolution... but they surely ain't Hippie material


Obama was 10 years old at the time of Woodstock Nation so he ain't no Hippie either


You are getting confused between the Radicals & the Hippie counter culture

the Radicals & self interested chose to become the Earth Firster's, the radical PETA and other assorted activities

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I partly disagree, the Clinton's marched against the Vietnam War, likely hostile to returning veteran's and I'm told were pictured burning the US flag with a bunch of other hippy's.

Why arent they protesting the fact that major gas and oil companies suppress and destroy renewable energy technology?

What you don't understand is that it's not about going backwards or doing some abstract good stewardship or everyone's favorite, "tree hugging."..at least not for the ones that really understand the science.

Economy means management of a household, so the global economy could be considered management of the planet. There should be two sides of the economic coin. One side is consumption. The other is WASTE.

Our current economic model does not involve proper management of waste. Human's current system views waste as waste. Nature views waste as nutrients. It's a closed loop.

If we really valued aligning with natural processes we would absolutely be able to technically do it. There is a way to live a high tech life with modern comforts using materials that either become nutrients for other living plants or animals or what Bill McDonough calls technological nutrients, which are 100% recyclable.

He also points out that that recyclable should mean that it retains its original quality, as opposed to what we do now with most "recyclables" which is really "down-cycling" because it looses quality in the process.

The ecosystem is complex, but we know one thing for sure: It's only abundant when it's in balance.

If you think we can just ignore the waste and it won't eventually begin to have an economic effect you are in for a big surprise. And if you don't realize it your children will.

The base of the economy are the Earth's resources. Some are renewable and some are non renewable.

Regarding non-renewable resources: To base your economy on something that is finite is idiotic.

Regarding renewable resources: They only flourish when they are nurtured.

Two things could drastically change our direction towards an abundant, yet sustainable world. We need to change our socio-economic system to include waste in the equation and make the ECOnomy a subset of the ECOsystem, instead of the other way around as it's practiced today.

I'm not an alarmist, but I'm not at all comfortable with the status quo. And when we are talking about the Earth, the very entity that supports all life, I think it would be smart to take serious steps while erroring on the side of caution.

Take that from a proud Tree Hugger!

Originally posted by Blaine91555
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Hippy Do-Gooders have Destroyed the World -

We have not!

Didn't you get the memo? Hippies and the Bill Ayers style Progressives were not the same people.

We Hippy types matured, turned Yuppie, bought businesses, turned conservative and now were pissed off at the Progressive fanatics also.

Get your history straight, lord knows the Progressives who control the schools are trying to rewrite history already.

Yes you are right mostly, the smart ones did wise up, some realised that the 'revolution' wasn't going to happen
And did what you said.
The school system was broken and rotted out by the socialist mindset, it wasn't helped by the liberals trying to relive their hippy 60s and 70s days via brainwashing kids in the schools.
It was bad in the 80s and 90s when I was a kid, goodness knows what they are up to now...

It is amazing how much humans think we actually effect the environment. I mean a volcano erupts and emits about a thousand times more carbon dioxide than all of our industrial plants, and we actually think our "carbon footprint" matters?? Not to mention a lot of the biggest voices in the environmental movement are complete hypocrites with huge carbon footprints ie: Al Gore.

I love George Carlin's view on the issue:
www.youtube.com...

Originally posted by tetriswoooo
what the hell is wrong with you we do need to do something about global warming and other environmental issues but its the companies that dont care and want you to suffer not the environmentalists the big oil companies cant wait untill oil starts to dry up and they can sell us gas at $50 per gallon then swoop in as the last drop is gone and save the day and become heroes

I think we should send all of our nuclear bombs into the sun and see if we can snuff it out, since it's the cause of all our "global warming".

LMAO! I find it interesting how people like to blame one group as if they were a singular person named 'evil liberal'. Now don't get me wrong, I am very conservative by my very nature. However to think that the worlds destruction has been caused by one group of people is flat out ignorant. There are more than plenty of conservatives who have shared their part in the mess the world has become. I always joke that the problem with mankind is man. Men more so than women have a drive to conquer, overcome and take ownership of anything they deem is theirs or that they want. This trait is a quality that knows no political, conservative, liberal or other bounds. It is within our nature to destroy ourselves apparently.

The hippies problem is that they are so easily mislead. Their entire movements are swayed to fit the needs of the masterminds which infiltrated and destroyed movements like Occupy Wallstreet. And there are things way more important happening than a new pipeline.

Totally with the OP, people of which are very rare these days, who see that we're only delaying our inevitable development of technologies. Sorry do-gooders and environmentalists; You're just going to accept that humans have an amazing mind that will continue to intervene and improve on chaos (nature).

By the way, chaos doesn't need your help. Trees and animals will be here for billions of years to come, regardless of us. You and your lifetime are not significant. We are nowhere near destroying our planet, or ourselves, in fact we're better off than at any point in human history.

I know it's trendy to hate on humans, but it's getting ridiculous. Enjoy your iPads anyway, why not? Consumerism has driven the development of tech which propagates into areas that you are concerned about. The best thing you can do for society is to try and save up for SUV. We're so lucky to be living in this tiny slice of time. Stop taking it for granted.

Originally posted by theubermensch
Has anyone noticed that the worlds biggest problem is hysterical do-nothing do-gooder hippies?

Environmentalists are the worst. These morally superior people want us to go backwards. Sometimes I wonder wether they are more interested in reducing our standard of living than mantaining the environment.

And what motivates someone to protest something like the Keystone Pipeline?

Text The total area that has been affected by surface mining represents only 0.1% of Canada's boreal forest. The oil sands account for about 0.1% of global greenhouse-gas emissions. Electricity plants powered by coal in the U.S. generate almost 40 times more greenhouse-gas emissions than Canada's oil sands (the coal-fired electricity plants in the State of Wisconsin alone produce the equivalent of the entire GHG emissions of the oil sands). California bitumen is more GHG-intensive than the oil sands. Oliver criticized opponents of the pipeline, stating that all of the above facts are ignored by "celebrity protestors."

I like how Oliver gives it to 'celebrity protesters'. Would anybody care if it wasnt en vougue to stomp around like an environazi? The US economy is a mess and these hippies have nothing better to do than stop something that will create jobs? Yet Im sure the people that protested the pipeline have no problem with Obamas crony capitalism grants to failed 'clean energy' projects like solyndra.

Hippies dont want us to be able to afford electricity or fuel or even water. They want us to pay 'carbon tax' and feel bad about our 'carbon footprint'. They want to use taxpayer money to fund their unfounded crusade against the human race.

If these hippies want conservation they should stop being fooled by the likes Obama and vote for a conservative.

The Democrats make fools of all you hippies. They are laughing at you.

As far as I know the original hippie movement was concocted at Laurel Canyon in LA, California. At least this is what Dave McGowan has been able to dig up. Hippies lent the peace and justice movement of the 60's a fragrant, clownish and carnival festiveness. Why have the bedrock conservatives of that era worry about how constitutional it was to have a war in Indochina that helped the CIA ship tons of heroin inside the caskets of dead young men? It was much easier to yell, "Those damn, dirty hippies!" To this day hippies provide entertaining, yet distracting street theatre for such serious issues as 9-11 Truth, and the Police State. Hippies are indispensable to discrediting any worthy mass movement, yet they aren't as serious an impediment as having the Communists or the Nazis try to run in front the angry crowd. Still the hippies did their damage. Witness how hard it is to get medical marijuana or research funded on the therapeutic value of '___'. One Timothy Leary did more damage to to the proper shamanic use of ritual medicines that did a million Richard Nixon's. Yes, he was that bad.

Just in response to the OP, I mostly agree with your assessment of people who are, and have been, holding our country back from economic and social progress recently and throughout the last few decades. I do not, however, have a need to call them out as a "hippie" and stereotype that type of person. In my view, hippies are mostly peace-advocating, love-spreading people, and deserve more to be typecast into a specific type of personality and cause. A lot of my friends are so called "hippies", they go on Phish tour or go to bluegrass festivals, and have a good time enjoying music they love and people they love. They work and contribute to society like we all should. Not one of my "hippy" friends is advocating or protesting against the Keystone XP pipeline or any of the other things you listed. Yes they enjoy new technology, we all should embrace new technology, but you cannot just throw my friends under the bus because some of them are white with dreadlocks.

There are, however, certain people who are very liberal and, as I agreed, are holding back our country from certain progress. I think it's a shame that the counter-culture revolution is still going on in some form or fashion since the 60's even knowing that it mostly doesn't do anything positive. I do wish these people, who include students, academic's, congressmen and other members of gov't, moms, dads, brothers and sisters, whoever is extremely liberal that ignore history and facts, would embrace the truth of what this country needs.

The truth being projects such as the Keystone Pipeline, off-shore drilling, no bailouts, anything that a true conservative would value as progress. It is very obvious that liberalism does not work, it never did, and it probably sent us back about 40-50 years of economic progress and personal growth. No, not everything is perfect in the world of politics and how we have and are handling our country's growth and value, but the one thing I know that doesn't work lines up with the OP's point of view, that is minus the racial stereotyping.

I cant believe this thread made it on the top of the home page...what a sad forum ATS has grown up to be. I could hand pick at least another 5 threads that got little or no attention, that are far more worthy of discussion than this bs.
The OP is a troll...and the sooner this thread is closed the sooner ATS can stop looking like a bunch of asses.

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Lol.. Hippies? That's how the world will end?
Case closed. EXTERMINATE THEM

Originally posted by Spartan1776
Why arent they protesting the fact that major gas and oil companies suppress and destroy renewable energy technology?

bingo

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I think he is cereal you guys.