I Am Christ-The Almighty!

Yeah, I'm pretty sure his death more showed us what filthy animals we are. I don't think he expects us to hope for death. In fact I think it's quite the opposite.

Originally posted by atotheb
Then let me rephrase the flame for your maya will be snuffed if you don't find the source... and drink it.

you drank 2000 year old blood, telepathically? 2000 years and Christ's followers still have no idea what he was talking about

Originally posted by atotheb
Yeah, I'm pretty sure his death more showed us what filthy animals we are. I don't think he expects us to hope for death. In fact I think it's quite the opposite.

His death was a demonstration of his love towards all men. Christ was killed because he was giving the sacraments to the gentiles. He wanted to conquor the romans with love, other jews( the essences ) didnt have the same plans. If the dead sea scrolls are talking about Christ, i think they are

Actually you didn't catch my metaphor. If you understood his words, you would know they they are what you drink.
I don't believe in the sacrament, but "My blood is real drink..." "the words I speak to you are the spirit and the life"

As soon as I get enough posts to make a thread, I'll break it down for ya. Christ already did that in the book of John, but then the devil came in and stole it right out from under us.

Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by michaelsherlock

 

Sounds a tad egotistical and deluded to me.

You are not God, Satan or even Napoleon Bonaparte. Are you Chris(t) or Sherlock, you seem a little confused?

Here, try this nice comfy dinner jacket with sleeves that strap around the back. We have a lovely plushly decorated room just for you, everything soft and padded!

edit on 31/1/2012 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)

Yes! I am insane for suggesting that the world as it is, with all of its war, avoidable famine, exploitation, corruption, inequality, poverty, conflict is need of serious redress! How silly of me to think that the solution could be, just could be, in us all taking stock of our own minds and being responsible for our own thoughts and behaviors! I do not claim to be Christ, nor superman, nor any other (possibly) fictional hero, I am saying that we need to stop worshiping heroes and seek to become that which we worship, rather than constantly playing the role fo the dependant child, who has his or her hands clasped together, begging their hero for an answer or even worse, approval! Read the entire thread, please, for those like yourself are in the most need of individuation!

By the way my name is actually, Michael Sherlock, it is my real name!

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by michaelsherlock

 

My thoughts are that youre playing to the crowd to get stars for your own glory, because you're more or less parroting the same ethics humanists and neo-platonism does with their greek philosophies.

If by playing to the crowd, you mean expressing my opinions, which to be honest, I do not feel will be too well received in the "Idiocracy" we live in, then sure, yeh I am playing to the crowd. I just learned about stars and that from Gemwolf and to be honest, I would rather be popular with my wife and two children than anyone else. Your accusation does tend to suggest that you place emphasis on such meagher attainments, which leads me to wonder why you are upset with me???

We can take resonsinility for our lives without saying, I am the almighty. I think for most people this change doesn't come until we realize that were not perfect. Then we have a starting point for transformation.

Originally posted by abeverage

Christians should not aim to live like Christ, for such a thing is possibly impossible as he most probably is a myth, so to be like Christ is the same as being like Superman! Dont try it, trust me! You will fall! But seriously, the same philosophy can be applied to any religion, or any other belief system. Be that which you worship! I am not saying worship yourself, as this is a sickness all to prevelant in our societies, but instead, emancipate your thinking beyond belief, move from worshiping and following the hero without to the hero within! Dont ask for forgiveness, give it to yourself, dont ask for anything, enable yourself.

Although the context is Christian in this particular thread, it is merely a common symbol most in the West are familar with, so to use Christ as the symbol for this philosophy, is simply the result of my social location and the locaation of the audience. the symbol needs to be understood! Yes, this philosophy would lead to people living a life like the Christ in thier mind, but not the Christ from the scriptures who promoted killing people who did not believe in him, and disrespecting your parents etc.

Now being a good natured well meaning person aside if that is what you mean by being your own personal Jesus.

Why you are restricting me in believing I cannot fly or turn water into Wine? Why would you limit me, if I am Christ? How would you know what I am able to to do?


Besides I am Sparticus...

How do you know Jesus was good natured? If you read the Gospels, you will see that he was aggressive, hypocritical, insane, disrespectful, he lies, he is violent! If you need evidence; ask and you shall receive!!!!

I am not saying we are all Yeshu Ben Yoseph, if ever such a person existed, I am saying we are our heroes. You say, you are sparticus, well that is exactly what I am saying! It is a psychological, philosophical and metaphoric vehicle to express a simple "truth".

In the words of Bob Marley: "Emancipate yourself from mental slavery, none but ourselves can free our mind"

You can turn water into wine! You just need grapes, time and other ingredients! It can be done!

Originally posted by atotheb
We can take resonsinility for our lives without saying, I am the almighty. I think for most people this change doesn't come until we realize that were not perfect. Then we have a starting point for transformation.

How many people are going to continue to misinterpret what I am saying??!

It is not about saying you or I are Christ, it is a symbolic analogy! And we wonder why we are being duped and exploited by our leaders!! We deserve to be ruthlessly ruled over, we are sheep, we are worms as King David allegedly exhorted, we do not deserve to be free, because with that freedom comes responsiblity, but who truely wants it. who wants to throw of the shackles of their tyranical rulers and breath free, if it means having to wake up and think for yourself?? Or do we deserve to be free for free! Do we achieve this freedom simply by wanting it, like going up to a drive through window and getting freedom with those fries!! No! We must look at ourselves, but how do we do that if we do not even know what it is we are looking at!! Sorry but I do not know how to make it any clearer and that is my fault.

I am Sorry!

Originally posted by michaelsherlock

Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by michaelsherlock

 

Sounds a tad egotistical and deluded to me.

You are not God, Satan or even Napoleon Bonaparte. Are you Chris(t) or Sherlock, you seem a little confused?

Here, try this nice comfy dinner jacket with sleeves that strap around the back. We have a lovely plushly decorated room just for you, everything soft and padded!

edit on 31/1/2012 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)

Yes! I am insane for suggesting that the world as it is, with all of its war, avoidable famine, exploitation, corruption, inequality, poverty, conflict is need of serious redress! How silly of me to think that the solution could be, just could be, in us all taking stock of our own minds and being responsible for our own thoughts and behaviors! I do not claim to be Christ, nor superman, nor any other (possibly) fictional hero, I am saying that we need to stop worshiping heroes and seek to become that which we worship, rather than constantly playing the role fo the dependant child, who has his or her hands clasped together, begging their hero for an answer or even worse, approval! Read the entire thread, please, for those like yourself are in the most need of individuation!

By the way my name is actually, Michael Sherlock, it is my real name!

Look Sherlock....

Very cool name!

Please don't misunderstand my sarcasm, I was pointing out that the wording of heading of the post was a little "over the top" and that it is likely that everyone who has joined this thread has done so based upon that heading.

In your defense, St Paul did encourage us to be more like Christ!

Originally posted by FreeThinkerbychoice
reply to post by michaelsherlock

 

Oh how I love coming across posts of this magnitude of unorthodox philosophical questioning, I salute you, for your mind is the reason I still have faith in humanity.

I whole heartedly agree with the notion of a 'Christ complexion' for ultimate freedom from the current controlling and dehumanizing thinking patterns promoted by a wide variety of religious and political establishments. Its a very frustrating and sad reality that so many people with the potential to flourish as independent free thinking contributors to society are being held back by convictions of personal inferiority by these well organised 'ultimate truths'.

I feel the difference between people with the 'heard mentality' and people like ourselves is the notion of always questioning authority in all its facets by analysing both the bigger and smaller pictures of its true intentions and motives.

Just by realizing how complex the human psyche can be by self internal investigation, it is clear to me that we were never designed to be controlled by all the wretched fear inhibiting tactics being force fed by the controlling powers some of us so whole heartedly trust in.

It is the duty of every single human being to seek his/her own truth as perspectives always vary ,whether it is minimal variations of the same beliefs or completely different views on certain topics. I believe ultimately that every single human being has the capability to be an individualist irrespective of similar characteristics that label us into the category of being human.

Many would argue that if everybody has the ability to be individualists that it could be a detriment to our social development as a whole but I disagree with this notion as happiness within about your very existence is the key to get along with your fellow human, as long as you understand the principles of respect toward ulterior beliefs.

I have always suspected those who claim to be happy within the structures of an organised belief system are in fact insecure based on the urge to convert as many of their surrounding patrons to join their 'ultimate truth'.

With all the above mentioned I believe we are still faced with many complex questions about our ultimate purpose and this mentality as been enduring since the beginning of human conciousness, now though these thoughts seem to be more wide spread thanks to modern communication systems.

I would like to end of by mentioning a very interesting and enlightening social experiment. I had the privilege of watching a video of a group of adults proving that human compassion or our sense to help each other is in fact hereditary. By simply observing babies in a playroom showing concern toward an upset member of the group by touch and sharing different toys, and by dropping an object in front of a toddler to only have it handed back no questions asked, shows me the true potential for humans to thrive regardless of our differences.

The greatest thing about Jesus Christ is that he was not a Christian trying to spread religion but a humanitarian trying to spread brotherhood.

Thanks for your encouragement! Good point about the impact of modern communications on the spreading of the "idiocracy"

Originally posted by biggmoneyme

Originally posted by atotheb
Yeah, I'm pretty sure his death more showed us what filthy animals we are. I don't think he expects us to hope for death. In fact I think it's quite the opposite.

His death was a demonstration of his love towards all men. Christ was killed because he was giving the sacraments to the gentiles. He wanted to conquor the romans with love, other jews( the essences ) didnt have the same plans. If the dead sea scrolls are talking about Christ, i think they are

As far as I have read, the Dead Sea Scrolls did not mention Christ, Jesus, or any of his alleged followers!

Was not Promethius' death also? Christ was not allegedly killed for preaching or giving the sacrament to the Gentiles, but for blasphemy, with regards to his claim to be the Messiah, which in reality would not bring a charge of blasphemy against the accused, as the Messiah was not god or his physical son in Judaism, it was and still is, the mortal ruler of Israel, chosen by Yahweh to lead the nation, militarily! So there is no grounds for a charge of blasphemy as reported by (Matthew, Mark, Luke) and in contradiction to these Synoptic "witnesses", John claimed that he was charged by the Romans with "Sedition" against the Roman Empire (John). He did not want to conquor the Romans at all however, in fact, he encouraged his followers to bow to Caesar!

There's not really anything clear about your post, except maybe that we need to look at ourselves. O.k. then, who are you trying to convince what? Are you just saying to take responsibility for your actions?

Originally posted by chr0naut

Originally posted by michaelsherlock

Originally posted by chr0naut
reply to post by michaelsherlock

 

Sounds a tad egotistical and deluded to me.

You are not God, Satan or even Napoleon Bonaparte. Are you Chris(t) or Sherlock, you seem a little confused?

Here, try this nice comfy dinner jacket with sleeves that strap around the back. We have a lovely plushly decorated room just for you, everything soft and padded!

edit on 31/1/2012 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)

Yes! I am insane for suggesting that the world as it is, with all of its war, avoidable famine, exploitation, corruption, inequality, poverty, conflict is need of serious redress! How silly of me to think that the solution could be, just could be, in us all taking stock of our own minds and being responsible for our own thoughts and behaviors! I do not claim to be Christ, nor superman, nor any other (possibly) fictional hero, I am saying that we need to stop worshiping heroes and seek to become that which we worship, rather than constantly playing the role fo the dependant child, who has his or her hands clasped together, begging their hero for an answer or even worse, approval! Read the entire thread, please, for those like yourself are in the most need of individuation!

By the way my name is actually, Michael Sherlock, it is my real name!

Look Sherlock....

Very cool name!

Please don't misunderstand my sarcasm, I was pointing out that the wording of heading of the post was a little "over the top" and that it is likely that everyone who has joined this thread has done so based upon that heading.

In your defense, St Paul did encourage us to be more like Christ!

edit on 31/1/2012 by chr0naut because: (no reason given)

No problem and thanks for the compliment. you have no idea how many times I have heard "No Sh** Sherlock" and "Where's Watson?" It is in some ways an unfortunate Irish name!! But that is Irish Luck for you!!!

I understand the title may have seemed a little over the top, but why should it be? I am King Arthur, I am Robin Hood! I am Batman! I am Mohammad! I am Krishna! It is all the same! It is a principle, a philosophical notion which brings us out of the bondage of dependancy and turns us into givers rather than takers! Doers, instead of wanters, thinkers rather than believers etc..!

It is funny you mention Paul of Tarsus! I wonder if you have read his epistles? If so, what difference, theolgoically and philosophically, do you see between his beliefs and the Jesus of the Gospel's? The two forms of Christianity are quite different when you examine them! Check it out! Also, ask the question; What did Paul or any of the other first century Chrisitian writers, whose works are in the NT, know about Jesus' life? It is certainly an interesting investigation!

You sound like your trying to free yourself from a cage... keep searching and you will find truth.

Good night.

By the way, I like Krishnamurti or whatever his name is, but transformation comes admitting that we aren't God, and asking for his help.

Originally posted by atotheb
There's not really anything clear about your post, except maybe that we need to look at ourselves. O.k. then, who are you trying to convince what? Are you just saying to take responsibility for your actions?

I am saying, take responsibility for your mind! Sanitize your mind by washing away all of the beliefs you have and seek the hidden observer, the inner self that lies beneath all of that mess which clings to the ego and blocks your vision, vision which could be used to enable yourself and others to create a world free from conspiracy!

"What did Paul or any of the other first century Chrisitian writers, whose works are in the NT, know about Jesus' life? It is certainly an interesting investigation! "

Very true... I've actually written a paper destroying the book of Hebrews by comparing it to Jesus' words, and how the author quotes the scriptures.
Hey I'm not trying to bag on your posts, it's just "I am Christ" is a pretty profound statement.

Originally posted by charles1952
Dear michaelsherlock,

I am violating a rule by writing when I don't know what I'm going to say, yet I feel I have to.

There is no question that the worship of oneself is the way to the greatest happiness while you are alive. But religion should not be about happiness, but about truth.

I know that I am ignorant, I also know that I have character traits which are justly called sins (although the world doesn't use that word anymore).

I most certainly do not want to magnify myself, or my inner being, or my consciousness, or whatever, to the status of Godhood. I am not qualified for that task.

I have more than enough glory in the name "Child of God." And when Jesus said we would no longer be called servants but His friends, I had set for me the greatest possible goal.

I am content.

With respect,
Charles1952

How do you know that you are not qualified for the task? From the obvious humility you display in your posts, it appears that you are more apt to fulfill that role, over and above most of the malign mediums for Christ and Krishna that presently reside in the religious circus tents of the world!

Originally posted by atotheb
"What did Paul or any of the other first century Chrisitian writers, whose works are in the NT, know about Jesus' life? It is certainly an interesting investigation! "

Very true... I've actually written a paper destroying the book of Hebrews by comparing it to Jesus' words, and how the author quotes the scriptures.
Hey I'm not trying to bag on your posts, it's just "I am Christ" is a pretty profound statement.

No Problem! Wow, I would be very interested to read a few of your thoughts re: Hebrews Vs Gospels!