At a certain distance from Earth in space no living being can not survive ,even in a spaceship.

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During the height of the cold war?

Methinks not!

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You wouldn't want your body cells to take trips in your house wouldn't you? I don't know why but more and more I seem to think that we're part of a much bigger living system. In fact, we're kind of the equivalent of a cancer for a much bigger and complex living organism, disconnected from "our true nature", killing and destroying our own superior self organism, Earth. Maybe we are simply not meant to leave. Planets orbiting around stars look a lot like atoms around their nucleus. As above, so below.

Originally posted by diamondsmith
reply to post by Droidinvoid

 

The OP theory could well be right

Could be right or it is right,but time will tell as no one will go to Moon or other planet just because they know that no living being will be able to survive until a certain distance from Earth's BIOLOGICAL ENERGY FIELD!!

What utter crap..

Can you prove this to us so as there can be no doubt in our minds, or is this just a gut feeling you have?

We did go to the moon, it wasn't faked.. I know one of the men whom helped set up communications with the moon landing and the Space angency back here on earth. If the signal he was relaying back to the US was from anywhere else but the moon, the signal wouldn't have been recieved, because the dish was positioned precisely where it need to be to recieve such a signal.

So what, The US sent a unmanned relay to the moon, bounced the astronaughts comms from earth to the unmanned moon relay and back to earth again to fool people into thinking it was real and the astronaughts were not in fact in some studio somewhere..?

LOL thats a lot of trouble to go through...

Dude, if you can prove your theory.. fine.!!

If you are just making a statement with nothing to back you up, then stop saying you are right... it's arrogant to insist you are right about something without actually being able to back your claims..

NASA has backed it's claims with video, images, eyewitness accounts, published research..the list goes on. Weather or not they are lying is not for me to decide, but what they have as to what you have is enough for me to decide on the side of NASA without the slightest hesitation...

Go back to your drawing board and come back when you have the material to prove your theory..

Originally posted by canadiansenior70
reply to post by arbiture

 

And how well and effortfully works, it scars me so much.

It scares me very much to see that you write about lecturing in history. I saw incomplete sentences, misspells, missing words, which can mislead the reader/listener, as well as missing punctuation.

Clueless, utterly clueless.

Also, I forgot the topic of the thread by the time I read your post. Where was your contribution to the topic at hand?

CS70

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When I post I abbreviate. So yes, I usually post with incomplete sentences though I figure its understandable by most readers. There's just not that much "room"to be as grammatically correct from an academic or business point of view. The original post was about a guy who felt the moon landings were faked, along with its not possible to survival in space (obviously I mean in a space craft) My response was out of frustration over the illogical conspiratorial nonsense. But what worried, and annoyed me the most was an apparent lack of any knowledge of the scientific method, as well as history. I made reference to the Russians monitoring everything we did in space and would have salivated at the opportunity to expose an American snow job.



By the way, I ran it through spell checker which I do for any post so if misspelled, blame that. The computer I use for open source access does not have a scientific or medical (at least not very good) spell checking capacity. This is not a formal letter or academic paper, I have experience in writing quite a few. When detail is required, I do my best to be meticulous. Also I wanted to point out certain claims need to be sourced and that can be hard to verify with "you-tube", etc.

Ad to the fact I tire easily due to ALS, and it was late, but that should not be an excuse. Still this is an OS web site, not a doctoral thesis...

Originally posted by diamondsmith
That's what I believe.That is the reason we have never been on the Moon.

At a certain distance from Earth no living being cannot survive.It is something,a bond that keep us alive as long as we are around the Earth and on Earth.

That is why all the manned space mission took place at a limit of space, outside Earth's atmosphere.
After that limit is exceeded every living being will die because all biological and energy ties are broken.

But no one can explain this.There is no proof otherwise.They say that a manned mission to Mars will take place at a moment in time,but all that time delay,though the technology exist for years.

It's something that they cannot explain,why we can not travel in space only up to a certain distance.

I think it's a well kept secret.

lol,
well my bro/sis...i can tell you with out any doubt that

that is not true

we are not alone too

factzorz

i know

Eventhough I do believe that we as a species have a important bond with our planet it does not prevent us from travelling through space or time for that matter. Time is just a data processing error that our brain creates, time doesn't excist. We invented time to explain that processing error.

We did go to the moon, but for reasons not told to us we are not allowed to return since 1972.
Maybe soon we will find out why we haven't been back for so long.

What is keeping us grounded is a technology matter, our official technology is complete balls and not suitable for space travel. What we need is some electromagnetic based science, that has no need for fossil fuel.
Well atleast that is my opinion, not a fact or anything.

Care to explain why our technology can & we can't OP?

Genuinely interested to here why there is an exception in place

Wow 22 pages for what so many are calling nonsense.

Keep coming up with the Idea's OP and let the "genius's" hash out the details.

Good for you. Not sure if you came up with that on your own or got it from somewhere else, but good for you.

Be prepared to be ridiculed by the "highly informed". But everything we hold as true, was once someone's "crazy" idea.

Not necessarily saying your claims are true..but I for one have never been to the moon.

Peace

I feel we should not discredit the OP. How can any of us be 100% sure that what we are fed daily in our schools and on the mainstream media is correct. It is still being taught in schools that the Pyramids were built by the Egyptians using stone tools and tree trunks to roll the huge monolithic stones into place

We as a species need disclosure of EVERYTHING NOW! Then again why would they have held back all these secrets for so long? In my honest opinion we as the masses will never know the whole truth

Originally posted by diamondsmith

Originally posted by DROKKR
Really?

Care to elaborate on what brought you to this conclusion?

First we never" go back" to the Moon,second all the manned space missions take place at a certain distance from Earth and never exceeded that distance,and third no other manned mission in space to other planet is certain to take place very soon(or ever),Why?....

Well we did go back a few times so a lame reason is that the best you can say , also why talk of Mars missions at some point if we can't get to the Moon also the next time you meet your science teachers if they are alive give them a good hard kick in the butt from me!

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I think this theory is arcane knowledge and possibly true. But you are mistaken, we have been to the moon. The field that extends beyond the Earth is huge and certainly covers the moon - just look at how the moon effects our oceans and life for proof.

You probably shouldn't of made the comment about the moon - it was ill thought out and took all the attention away from 'your' theory, quite unfortunate.

Originally posted by GrouchyGrouch
Even though I do believe that we as a species have a important bond with our planet it does not prevent us from travelling through space or time for that matter. Time is just a data processing error that our brain creates, time doesn't excist. We invented time to explain that processing error.

We did go to the moon, but for reasons not told to us we are not allowed to return since 1972.
Maybe soon we will find out why we haven't been back for so long.

What is keeping us grounded is a technology matter, our official technology is complete balls and not suitable for space travel. What we need is some electromagnetic based science, that has no need for fossil fuel.
Well atleast that is my opinion, not a fact or anything.

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First what I have to question, "we have not been allowed to return to the moon since 1972" ? It has nothing to do with being "allowed" to do anything, but the fact the political will has not been there in large part thanks to the cost of the Vietnam War. And frankly we have not had effective advocates who realize the importance of getting back to the moon, and staying there!

I should add I damn near had a crying, swearing and screaming fit when Obama cancelled the Orion moon rocket program. I blew my top. But then...He made the most serious attempt yet to get private industry the incentive, and opportunity to build the technology needed to economically return to space and the moon. Then I did a little reading on how the government was funding or should I say mis-funding the Orion project. It was way over budget, which we should make clear to private contractors who build anything for the US government that you do it right or we tell you to take a hike. Worse, there were serious technical issues that the contractors for the project funded by US taxpayers had not taken into account. Christ.

People want to see a President use a little common sense when it comes to certain projects? I was very impressed in the way Obama handled this and most importantly he has made the most effort to get private companies into the space business. Not just exploration, somethings like basic R&D need to go through one or more branch of the government. And the Republicans have not come remotely close to proving they are anything beyond clueless in this and other areas. And about Newts ridiculous "stunt"that he wants to build a colony on the moon (which by the way we MUST DO) And to have shuttle service to Mars by 2020?!? What is Newt smoking, or if not on drugs the guy should consider professional help... He is just out-to-lunch, and I am being very kind...

Companies will not do basic research unless they see an up-side and that means it has to eventually make more then they use to get any project up and running. Our "socialist" President has shown more initiative and appreciation of free enterprise then any President since Ike. But that bitching is for another post.

By the way I find you comment about "time being a data processing error in our brain is very insightful, but I would put it slightly differently. We know that there are quantum mechanics involved with biological activity, like photosynthesis, and it seems unquestionable in how the brain operates at many levels as well. I think time is frankly an illusion or how biological systems interpret and categorize what is a component of momentum. It seems biological systems apply what they view as chronological time to the orientation of two or more objects with in a spacial frame work.

As for getting into space the biggest problem is getting into low Earth orbit with much more efficiency then we can now. Or at least that is publicly known and available to non-military organizations such as one of the military space agencies, the NRO. The late Ben Rich, former director of the Lockheed Skunk Works alluded to as much at his retirement party with the comment "There are things we have out in the desert people will not know about for at least 50 to 75 years" It would be nice if those with this technology would share, but if that advanced thats not going to happen until and unless developed independently . Likely by another private company. Getting into space in large numbers and staying there is my greatest passion and I feel the only hope for humanities survival. How much time do we have to get it together? I don't know but we better move our collective ass's.

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you probably shouldn't of made the comment about the moon

Maybe I shouldn't.

If this is true, it might explain the Hollow Earth theory.... the only way any beings on this planet have to escape the surface of the Earth is to move below it. Who knows.

I feel like this is based in nothing but your thoughts. We need a little more to go on.

I would love to believe man went to the moon. But there is so much doubt out there, I reserve judgement until we have real evidence. A decent photo with good detail of any of the landing sites - so many probes go to the moon, but never a decent photo?? No atmosphere to distort the images. How come I can google earth and see a footprint, yet i am supposed to believe a set of 4 pixels is the lander?
The more I learn, the more dubious I get. The whole Apollo 11 landing drama - losing contact etc - just enough time for someone to push play on the tape machine. No live feeds - just blurry video feeds off monitors. makes you wonder. 12 losing their video after a couple of minutes. 13 - well a bit of hollywood drama. Gets me thinking. Jury is out for me and I await conclusive evidence. If someone has it please I would love to see it.

Originally posted by diamondsmith
reply to post by Lapislazuli

 

I stated that above,but more then that many proofs are that a mission to the Moon never took place,first I think they should send a dog,to see the effects for a long journey to the moon,and after that a manned spaceship.

The Russians already did that in 1957. A dog named Laika or (Russian for 'Barker') was sent into space. Sadly, it died because of a failure of the central R-7 sustainer to separate from the payload. Possibly in part, because a dog cannot fly a space craft.

To the OP...I admire your idea but would suggest in the future, wording ideas as a theory and not as a fact. I believe THAT is what caused so much backlash by the ATS public. While I do believe we went to the Moon, and therefore, your theory does not hold weight with me personally...I find the idea very interesting. Maybe the distance needs to be re-thought. Maybe we couldn't survive outside our solar system. That would give you a leg to stand upon and maybe some people would then be willing to consider the possibility.

Considering this possibility could affect our view of the world. It would be very interesting if humans were limited to Earth or the solar system. Maybe we would then pay more attention to, and take better care of our home. Or would that be prison?