Chemtrails spraying is making us sick

Originally posted by Gmoneycricket
reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

 

I will tell you this Gaul, my mother in-law thinks contrails are pretty.
I don't think she knows that they are created from planes, and I won't tell her if you don't.

Why wouldn't you tell her??

Originally posted by nuttin4U
These days...with so much information...the truth is hard to come by. The people that say they're just 'contrails' haven't seen what i've seen, over the past 2 years. I know the difference between 'contrail' and a 'chemtrail'. Unless, a 'contrail' is really a 'chemtrail' and a 'chemtrail' is really a 'contrail'...and we just got the names confused. But, whatever you want to call them..they're UNDENIABLE. It's hard to see how a little bit of exhaust can cause a DRAMATIC change in weather. You can see the streak GROW, throughout the day. It starts like a LOOOOOOOOOOONG line, then starts to expand and get puffy; you can even see the 'clouds' drifting. And guess where they're drifting into: the Pacific Ocean. And you want me to believe it's a 'contrail' that caused it? Hmm, maybe it is.

Ok then, let's let the people decide.

Is this a contrail?


What is this, then?


And how about this?


Or this?


What about this?


So, this is normal?


And this?


Ewwww, that's purty.


Wow, niiiiiiice


I'm loving the way it drifts INTO the ocean.


These pics are old pics...the ones i had available online. I have MUCH better ones, than this. I took some of today's activity...but...why bother loading them...they look the same as these. The only difference today, was the fact that the planes were flying relatively close to each other. A little too close, to be passenger planes. That's for SURE!

edit on 29-1-2012 by nuttin4U because: (no reason given)

Can we talk about my pretty pics??? Please??? I need a cloud edumacation. Where are the 'experts'? ProudBird, Unicus...where art thou?

I wouldn't worry about those chemtrail, the government knows what it's doing. I'm only joking. I have researched what I could find and am positive they are spraying something but cannot find exactly what it is. I hate making comments without facts. Sounds like people with asthma are having a hard time with it. Too many people seeing it and having problems to be just a story though, there's something behind it. I've seen aircraft up here in michigan doing something like that a few times. No commercial airlines fly so close together and they only fog the jets when increasing altitude. They didn't look like military, there were 3 white jets trying to make clouds. Who knows what they were doing.

reply to post by Aloysius the Gaul

She thinks its nature, and she is not that impressed with man made things, Germans bombing her homeland during ww2 as a child etc.
She just got around to accepting I drink beer at tea time, don't want to push it.

Originally posted by nuttin4U
Can we talk about my pretty pics??? Please??? I need a cloud edumacation. Where are the 'experts'? ProudBird, Unicus...where art thou?

They all look like contrails, contrail induced cirrus, and natural cirrus of various sorts.

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I've been keeping track this month of what I've seen over Central Florida (10-12 miles East of Disney World, Epcot, Hollywood Studios, 15miles approx South of Universal Studios, 10 miles South of Sea World, and here's what my notepad shows
Chem Trails
Jan 1 chem trails
2 chem trails
3rd rain then it got cold next 2 or 3 days
9 chem trails
10 chem trails
11 - rain
12 chem trails
13th has cotton ball like cloud cover and mid 50's temp at 1pm
14 chem trails
15 chem trails
17 chem trails
18 rain
19 clear - regular contrails
20 clear
21 clear
22 chem trails -lots & hazy
23 - Chem trails
24 - Chem trails
25-  Chem trails
27 - right after rain,  Chem trails (noticed high flier trails above rain clouds
Sat 28 - Heavy  Chem trails
29 - no chem trails, tons of flights as usual but no trails. Some clouds but regular looking in appearance.

If they are spraying to affect the masses, why not spray here where people fly in to visit the parks and are gone a few days later. Great way to spread problems globally.

Extensive testing is done daily in all major cities, and many other locations, in soil, air, groundwater and wastewater. There are no sinister amounts of mystery poison found. There is nothing there. It's amazing that they supposedly spray in such amounts, that it leaves a massive cloud, and entire cities get sick, but it's never found in samples. It's an amazing evil spray - it goes from the plane, and hangs out avoiding weather patterns, and finally falls to the earth, only to be inhaled by animals and humans, and nary a molecule ends up hitting the ground. What an astounding, clever, wicked poison!

i.e. Get some proof - you have none, and no one who touts chemtrails ever bother to gets any. Because there is nothing there. Samples are taken extensively - just because you are not sampling, doesn't mean other people aren't. Every day samples are taken - extensive measures are taken to make certain they are accurate. Chain of custody, multiple labs, incredibly depth of detail for all chemicals, natural or man-made.. and nada.. nothing shows it. It would show up like a huge blaring alarm if it were sprayed in the amounts you folks say. And nothing shows up. YOU ARE WRONG.

that's really trippy.. just like a few days ago it was raining here (SoCal) and now i'm having a horrible sore throat, my mom's got a terrible cough... my whole family's getting sick randomly.

and we didn't do anything to cause the cold symptoms. and on top of that, we take immune system boosting gummy vitamins. so maybe that's why it's not all that bad, just a few subtle symptoms here and there.

what you just posted is really relatable and explains a lot.

now the question is, is there a solution to stopping the harmful effects of the chemtrails?

You are imagining things, sorry. There are no mystery chemtrails. If you are sick, it's because you are sick. Or because you are making yourself sick. Your mind is a very powerful thing.. it can make an entire family "feel" sick, even if they are not.

There is no proof. There IS extensive testing. But nothing shows up, ever. Not like you are claiming. I wish someone would actually refute anything I have brought up about chemtrails.. but they have not, ever.. and can not, because quite simply, they are wrong.

Those chemtrails aren't making you sick...I'm not saying they aren't spraying stuff in the air...It's just called "cloud seeding." They are spraying clouds. Just watch how a perfectly sunny day with no clouds turns into complete overcast after they fly by. Why? I don't know.

I'm outside every day, and see them spraying every 4 days on average, I'd say.
And I'm healthier than I've ever been and I don't have cold sores(herpes).
HAHAHAHAHA. That cold sore comment in the OP is the most hilarious thing I've read about chemtrails...chemtrails give you herpes now, huh?(No offense OP, it just honestly is the craziest thing I've ever read about chemtrails)

You see so many sick, herpes infected people, because there are so many evil, immoral people. It's the end of times, expect to see even more sick people....If you get sick, the only person you have to blame is yourself.

Originally posted by fleabit
You are imagining things, sorry. There are no mystery chemtrails. If you are sick, it's because you are sick. Or because you are making yourself sick. Your mind is a very powerful thing.. it can make an entire family "feel" sick, even if they are not.

There is no proof. There IS extensive testing. But nothing shows up, ever. Not like you are claiming. I wish someone would actually refute anything I have brought up about chemtrails.. but they have not, ever.. and can not, because quite simply, they are wrong.

Someone's going to be feeling sick tomorrow...
don't spread disinfo about chemtrails. They DO exist. I don't know their purpose, but they are indeed real. Maybe you should get off the computer and go outside once and a while? Heck, you could even go outside every day and look up!

But not if you're feeling sick tomorrow....
but you don't believe, so how could you possibly start feeling sick tomorrow?

reply to post by Ghost375


alright so maybe chemtrails don't cause common illness.. then what's their purpose? maybe linked to the same purpose as the flouride in our water supply?

calcification of the pineal gland? some how keeping the civilians "dumbed down"? idk just a thought of what might possibly be going on, obviously i have no proof lol but i'm just trying to throw out ideas and maybe find some answers in the process.

Just wanted to share a picture I took January 6, 2012 in Northeast PA. Others in the area noticed the trails as well as they were more frequent in other locations, and for some reason, our entire city (not in close proximity to any rural areas) smelled VERY strongly of fertilizer at this time. Friends miles and miles away from me noticed this as well.

When I am in the National Forest and look up and see a contrail Haze, affecting our blue sky's, I wonder if this law applies, and We could report them.

The Regional Haze Rule (RHR) Outlines the requirements for States to follow in order to address haze impairing pollutants (71 FR 60631 Leaving ADEQ Web site, Oct. 13, 2006). The purpose of the rule is to improve visibility at the 158 national parks and wilderness areas throughout the U.S. (formally known as mandatory Federal Class I areas). States are required to demonstrate reasonable progress towards the national visibility goal established in 1977 by the Clean Air Act (Section 169A and 169B): "the prevention of any future, and the remedying of any existing impairment of visibility in mandatory class I Federal areas which impairment results from man-made air pollution." Arizona has 12 Class I areas. States, with the assistance of regional planning organizations (RPOs), are required to submit a State Implementation Plan to the U.S. EPA every five years outlining how the State is progressing on attainment of the national goal. The RPO assisting the western states is the Western Regional Air Partnership, or WRAP Leaving ADEQ Web site.

www.azdeq.gov...

Originally posted by euph0ric
reply to post by Ghost375

 

alright so maybe chemtrails don't cause common illness.. then what's their purpose? maybe linked to the same purpose as the flouride in our water supply?

calcification of the pineal gland? some how keeping the civilians "dumbed down"? idk just a thought of what might possibly be going on, obviously i have no proof lol but i'm just trying to throw out ideas and maybe find some answers in the process.

"What's their purpose?"
Honestly, your guess is as good as mine. I'm just more in the process of elimination right now. narrowing down the possibilities. There's much more efficient ways of poisoning us, so it can't be that.

Three that I haven't eliminated: Hiding something up there. Altering the atmosphere to stop global warming. And I forgot what's the third one? (I love you Rick Perry )

Someone's going to be feeling sick tomorrow...
don't spread disinfo about chemtrails. They DO exist. I don't know their purpose, but they are indeed real. Maybe you should get off the computer and go outside once and a while? Heck, you could even go outside every day and look up!

But not if you're feeling sick tomorrow....
but you don't believe, so how could you possibly start feeling sick tomorrow?

No, they are not real - at least in the theory that they are spread for hours, and create a fog over cities, as claimed here. Just not true, sorry. And the claims they make families or cities sick?

How about providing some of that proof stuff?

It's pretty simple. If they are actually spraying things that cause sickness, then it can be measured. It would exist - unless it's some alien mystery chemical (which I wouldn't put it past people here in believing in it). But it does NOT show up in soil tests.. groundwater tests.. wastewater tests.. air sampling. Which is done EVERY SINGLE DAY. Why not? Why are these chemicals not showing up?

It sure is a puzzler! Please enlighten us about why these chemicals never show up.

reply to post by fleabit

You are imagining things, sorry. There are no mystery chemtrails. If you are sick, it's because you are sick. Or because you are making yourself sick. Your mind is a very powerful thing.. it can make an entire family "feel" sick, even if they are not. There is no proof. There IS extensive testing. But nothing shows up, ever. Not like you are claiming. I wish someone would actually refute anything I have brought up about chemtrails.. but they have not, ever.. and can not, because quite simply, they are wrong.

First and foremost, you're right, there are no mystery chemtrails. They are quite brazenly out in the open, nothing mysterious about 'em. However, everything else you've just suggested is quite pompous and arrogant. I'm sick because I'm making myself sick? I won't go into personal details, but rest assured if I had the power to make myself chronically ill/fatigued the way I am (who does that to themselves anyway?) using just my mind, does this mean the X-Men are real as well? How condescending to make a mass generalization saying all these people are making themselves sick because they want to be sick. As far as proof goes, I've already made it quite clear I'm speaking from personal experience, which you'd think would be an appreciated viewpoint. I would love to see the proof you're touting about extensive testing, and also the study that shows I'm just imagining things, cheers!

Originally posted by OccamAssassin
reply to post by killemall

 

Have you rain water tested (I recommend by 2 or 3 independent labs). You will be surprised what results come back.

Did you have your rainwater tested?

What came back in the results?

Where was the sample taken?

Who can you get to test the sample?

What do they check for?

This^

Someone with the time and resources please get some rainwater tested out after a day with chemtrails. Thx.

Originally posted by fleabit

Someone's going to be feeling sick tomorrow...
don't spread disinfo about chemtrails. They DO exist. I don't know their purpose, but they are indeed real. Maybe you should get off the computer and go outside once and a while? Heck, you could even go outside every day and look up!

But not if you're feeling sick tomorrow....
but you don't believe, so how could you possibly start feeling sick tomorrow?

No, they are not real - at least in the theory that they are spread for hours, and create a fog over cities, as claimed here. Just not true, sorry. And the claims they make families or cities sick?

How about providing some of that proof stuff?

It's pretty simple. If they are actually spraying things that cause sickness, then it can be measured. It would exist - unless it's some alien mystery chemical (which I wouldn't put it past people here in believing in it). But it does NOT show up in soil tests.. groundwater tests.. wastewater tests.. air sampling. Which is done EVERY SINGLE DAY. Why not? Why are these chemicals not showing up?

It sure is a puzzler! Please enlighten us about why these chemicals never show up.

Maybe you should read my first post...


And for your relevant questions...I can think of 3 reasons why it wouldn't show up....

It's less dense than air and it remains up there. It's hydrophobic so it doesn't show up in rainwater. And i forget the third one.

Boy, I'm on a roll tonight. hehe.


And I'm calling B.S. that those tests are done everyday.

I would love to see the proof you're touting about extensive testing, and also the study that shows I'm just imagining things, cheers!

I was not saying you are making yourself sick. I meant your family might have a cold or flu. They do exist you know, and it's easy to make someone else sick.

As far as testing goes, I work for a company that among other things, does extensive enviornmental work. Landfills, remediation, etc. They do a ton of testing in soil, air, water. We have mobile units that literally sit out 24/7 for years, gathering air quality data, which is sent back live to create databases of information for clients. We have testing units in wells 24/7 for years, to make certain the water is clean. We are just one of MANY environmental companies that do this sort of thing. I HAVE posted extensive data, using data from our own tests, covering dozens of natural and man-made chemicals. These tests are accurate. They have to be. They are done through more than one lab, through a very precise testing method, so we can ensure our client has accurate data. Why? Because if we give them bad information, then when the EPA rolls around and tests, they don't get fined hundreds of thousands of dollars.

Just google up environmental testing. Go check out the companies and what they do. It's incredibly intensive, and a LOT more intensive and often than people realize. Many tests are constant, and they are done in every major city, and most smaller ones, too. As well as military bases, landfills, parks, and anywhere where there has been a previous cleanup effort.

If something so sweeping as a huge spraying was done, it would raise red flags across the industry. Many environmental companies would find it and report it, and it would be national news very quickly. This has never happened. Because there is NOTHING THERE. And it doesn't matter how much sense this makes, or how often I say it, people continue to insist squadrons of planes fly over their towns or major cities for a dozen hours, leaving massive clouds that makes "everyone sick." As if they would know.. it just gets tiring.