Breaking: LAX FEMA Rendition Site Confirmed

Just realized I was getting you and ProudBird confused, I was only looking at the blue avatars and thought you were the same poster.

ProudBird is the one that originally said jones was misrepresenting the date. Are you inferring that too?

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Don't always agree with you but glad to see a LEO that actually backs the people and not his handlers.

That's not very common.

Originally posted by The Sword
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Don't always agree with you but glad to see a LEO that actually backs the people and not his handlers.

That's not very common.

Its actually a whole lot more common than people think. Law Enforcement is supposed to act in the same manner as the military when it comes to polotics, which is to say we don't take sides while in uniform because it places everyone into odd positions and can give the wrong impression to people who share a differing political view. While we have more ability to do political things while in uniform where the military does not, its till a bad idea and does cause issues when it occurs, especially in a heated race or a city where there are concerns from the citizeens about the actions of law enforcement.

Also because we use a chain of command system like the military, and have civilian leadership (city council / manager / civilian oversight boards etc) expressing politics in uniform can cause disciplinary problems by giving the appearence of ignoring orders / chain of command etc etc etc etc.

There are plents of officer across the nation, where if push came to shove, would protect the people. Our goal though is to prevent that from ever happening in the first place though. One of the reasons im constantly telling people on here and in day to day encounters to get involved and vote if they dont like the way things are.

Complaining never wins an election or changes a law. Only complaining followed up with actions do.

Originally posted by 1825114
Just realized I was getting you and ProudBird confused, I was only looking at the blue avatars and thought you were the same poster.

ProudBird is the one that originally said jones was misrepresenting the date. Are you inferring that too?

edit on 28-1-2012 by 1825114 because: (no reason given)

No.. im flat out stating Alex Jones is lieing and using misleading / false information in an effort to scare the bajezuz out of everyone in an effort to make himself out to be some government caped crusader looking out for the "people".

If AJ ever took a step back and did research instead of fearmongering he would see that he is not causing people to challenge the government. What he IS doing is causing people to medicate themselves from the parnoia his bilge induces in them.

I would rather deal with a citizen who has done the research and facts to back the claims on a government fema camp rather than a raving lune who claims LAx has a FEMA site simply because the barb wire fence is faced in instead of out.

Has it never occured to anyone that construction sites, espcially on the scale iof LAX, willhave lots of copper and other items people can steal to melt down? Now, knowing that how easy do you think it would be to steal those items if the barb wire were facing out? By facing the wire in, any person in the zone who is not supposed to be will have a much harder time getting out, allowing security / LAX Police / LAPD / LACS a better chance of stopping them.

Lots of construction sites have been doing this, simply because of copper and other thefts.. Are they all FEMA camps as well because the barb wire is on the in instead of the out??

Originally posted by Xcathdra
From the master plan website for LAX expansion -

It should be noted that this is NOT the fence/fence line shown in the video

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So you didnt even bother to watch the videos you posted then?
Youtube video deep time link

11:17 in to the video shows the LAx area. The master plan and google map I posted is the same area but on the larger scale. Why is that important you may wonder? Because it shows the ENTIRE North half from east to west under construction and expansion.

nice try though.. On the off chance you arent familiar with how it works, the picture I posted that you said is not it, scrolls to the left and right.

The area in the video most definitely is not marked on that image, it's across a ~6 lane highway.

The lines don't even touch the parking lot the limo driver talks about, they're on the other side of the highway. Notice the part that's highlighted in the video, the parking lot with limos and buses in it, IS NOT encircled in that image.

They only touch the tall, cement-based fence once where the line crosses the highway, and then for a few hundred meters on Pershing drive, at the left of the image. Current googlemaps imagery doesn't show a fence along the bottom of the line, but it it a paved/worn path.

Get on maps.google.com... and look for yourself. 33.949483,-118.436651

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Thats not a highway.. Its Sepulveda avenue that runs underneath part of LAX on the East side. If you look at the angle at the lower right of the runway, you will see th same in the Master LAX map I posted, which indeed shows the area.

LAX is under massive reconstruction / rennovation.. This is not a difficult concept to understand.

The area this guy is talking about is found here -
LAX Consolidated REntal Car Facility.

If you dont know what one is check out Mccarren International Airport in Vegas, they have one just off property. Instead of having 12 different car rental agencies all over the area, they all go in on one facility to make transition easier. Again found in the Master LAX documents and planning. There is also a planned ground transportation center linking the lightrail and most likely subway.

I wonder if the Limo guy, who apparently lost a prime spot to pick people up because of the new consolidated facilities, might be pissed and blowing something out of proprtion?

Originally posted by Xcathdra
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Thats not a highway.. Its Sepulveda avenue that runs underneath part of LAX on the East side. If you look at the angle at the lower right of the runway, you will see th same in the Master LAX map I posted, which indeed shows the area.

LAX is under massive reconstruction / rennovation.. This is not a difficult concept to understand.

Sepulveda runs vertically on the right of the image. I'm talking about the Pacific Coast Highway/Lincoln blvd which run horizontal across the image, above the runway.

Seriously, get on google maps and zoom in on the tall green fence with barbed wire and a cement base that's connected to the limo/bus lot.

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I did and included that photo in my response to you. In my follow up post where I again stated its in the map I posted, and now in my last post I not only tell you the same thing again, but provide a link to the construction facilities map which shows the area in question.

what more do you want? Its a new consolidated rental car location.

The area this guy is talking about is found here -
LAX Consolidated REntal Car Facility.

George Bush International Airport Houston - Consolidated Rental car facility
Wikipedia consolidated rental car facilities

Consolidated Car Rental Facility PDF

Use scroll bar to go left and right to see entire picture.

blue line marks the fence in the video. orange is sepulveda blvd, pink is the pacific coast highway.
The red line, the projected expansion zone that you posted, only touches the fence line in two small spots.

The coordinates for the limo/bus parking lot are 33.951228,-118.398006
Go to maps.google.com... , zoom in, and follow the fence


i42.tinypic.com...

The big point I'm seeing here is that in the past these areas were used to "detain" individuals who were part of GROUPS of people. If they can "detain" revelers, people attending political rallies, etc then they can detain groups of americans who are say "protesting the government". I feel that there are going to be decisions made that are going to make various groups of people unhappy. And I think the government knows this and is making plans. I don't know if I'm representing my thoughts well, I've been up all night.

I guess what I'm trying to say is that if it happens to one group, then it can happen to another group. All it takes is for someone to phrase it in a way that the people will most likely accept.

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Yup see my post above yours.

Conslidated Rental Facility





Use scroll bar to go left and right to see entire picture.
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Based on your argument and use of the term groups, then every single jail in the United States falls into the category as it contains "groups" of people who broke the law and have been charged, tried and convicted or are awaiting trial etc.

The people detained in the other examples werent detained for protesting, and I dont know how to get this through peoples heads. When you protest, its peaceful. When it becomes violent, where you have property damage / destruction / rights violations of those not involved in the protest / blocking of public right of ways - Thats not protesting. Those acts are illegal and your rights end the moment they interfere with the rights of others.

In the case of pier 57 look at it this way.. What setup do you know of in the nation that can handle 1800 people within a 24 hour period? What people ignore is the fact that we cannot overload a jail / prison. Those facilities guidlines are established by the FEderal government and any violations result in a DOJ look as to whats going on and why their is over crowding.

The people were "deatained", transported to an overflow area, processed and cited, checked by medical, and released.

No one was shipped off, denied their civil rights, due process or anything else suggested by Alex jones. The next question people ask is is it possible to have 1800 people act that stupidly?

For an answer to that all we need to do is look at Louisiana during hurrican katrina and see how many people were stupid enough to stay, knowing full well a cat 5 hurricane was going to put the city under water. We had over 1800 people in the Louisiana government who waited to the last 24 hours before initiating a forced evacuation.

There are people who seem to confuse protesting and rioting. While botyh can occur at the exact same time, we dont arrest people for protesting.

I was specifically pointing out that the red lines in the specific picture I quoted we not the fence. There was a reason I only quoted that picture.

Originally posted by 1825114
I was specifically pointing out that the red lines in the specific picture I quoted we not the fence. There was a reason I only quoted that picture.

The rental car facility location is in every single one of my pictures as well as the links to the LAx expansion.

I dont know how many more times I can say this.

Its a car rental cosolidated facility location thats under construction.
Its NOT a FEMA / Rendition camp as Alex Jones claims.

Please let the thread die...

ETA = Wow 19 flags... People are so quick to believe before researching that its just sad... Alerted in hopes of getting this moved to the HOAX / Debunked bin.

I just had to add a thought that came to me this morning regarding these FEMA camps. The assumptions do seem outrageous and there are a lot of people who claim it must me BS because it is so unthinkable. However being German, I thought: "What if they would have had the internet back in the 30's?"
There would have been posts about strange places with sheds being build, other places that would look odd having trains going right up to them. We know now what those places were used for right?

However I can see people in those days saying that must be a rational explanation, because no government would be mad enough...blablabla.

Ignorance can sometimes be bliss but what happened before to a civilised country can just happen again, there is no immunity apart from open eyes and ears. If those that are worried about FEMA camps are wrong, then we are lucky but I will still be grateful that they kept an open mind and asked questions..
To blatantly say these things can't happen is far more dangerous IMO.

Originally posted by Xcathdra


The rental car facility location is in every single one of my pictures as well as the links to the LAx expansion.

It's in the picture but you're missing the point

Originally posted by 1825114

Originally posted by Xcathdra
From the master plan website for LAX expansion -

It should be noted that this is NOT the fence/fence line shown in the video

Originally posted by 1825114
blue line marks the fence in the video. orange is sepulveda blvd, pink is the pacific coast highway.
The red line, the projected expansion zone that you posted, only touches the fence line in two small spots.

The coordinates for the limo/bus parking lot are 33.951228,-118.398006
Go to maps.google.com... , zoom in, and follow the fence


i42.tinypic.com...

edit on 28-1-2012 by 1825114 because: (no reason given)

I said that that specific picture [which could definitely lead people to think that that's the area the thread is about] did not represent the fence in the video, and I proved it. The line doesn't even touch the limo/bus lot, it's across the highway, and it's just. not. the fence.

It doesn't matter what the other pictures show because the lines in them are different.

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Talk about grasping for straws.

This is the post with the very first picture -
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Whats that listed next to the picture? The link to the master plan of LAX, which shows everything ive been talking about. The google earth pictures I posted show the EXACT same area. Get off the wrong fence deal already. You are the one thats keep brining it up, not me.

the area is a car rental consolidation facility, not a FEMA / rendition camp as your post claims.

debunked and nothing but an alex jones fearmongering hoax - nothing more.

All I'm saying is that that picture has nothing to do with this thread and is misleading. It's a proposed boundary line, NOT the permanent fence from the video.