I've invented the time machine... in a manner of speaking! 

Assuming time travel will ever exist and presuming that it will permit us to travel "backwards" in time, I know how we could pull it off almost immediately! 

My idea is to avoid having to "reinvent the wheel" so-to-speak... 

Assuming time travel will ever exist, in a matter of speaking... It technically already exists! 

If I invent a time machine in 10 years and use it to come back to this exact moment, time travel would instantly become available to me right... Wait for it... NOW

Stay with me, I'm not saying "I" will invent a time machine anytime in the near or distant future... 

What I am saying is, if I could write a compelling argument as to why somebody in the future needs to come see me at this specific time and place in the present, and find a way to store said argument for an extended period of time, in a time capsule; not to be disturbed for X amount of years, I would instantly know if I succeeded... 

There are several variables...

-The argument/reason as to why they need to come to this specific time/place in their past...

-the way the argument is stored... (and for how long)

-what formula we will use to calculate what this specific place in time is assuming our calendar expires or becomes inaccurate... 

And I'm sure there are other variables I may be missing, but if we work out the variables, we would have instant success, if we don't have success, we keep trying. 

Keep trying different methods of storage, arguments, and methods of time until we get it right!  

[of there is a better forum to post this thread under, please feel free to move it]

logic is kinda sound hahah
Good post let me know how it turns out?

That made my brain hurt...




Peace

reply to post by leawyoming


Well thank u...

The cool part is anybody could do this... Just getting creative with storage methods and such. But if the government could create a building specifically for this with some sort of automated time capsil and involve some scientist types, their likelyhood of success would be significantly higher.

reply to post by jude11


In a way that it made sounded smart and creative, or just poorly worded and hard to understand?

Originally posted by sparda4355
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In a way that it made sounded smart and creative, or just poorly worded and hard to understand?

Don't know...Everything's just ... fuzzy.

Actually it makes sense but had to read it a few times to make sure.

Thanks.

I've beaten you to it. I already invented a time machine a long time ago, but it only goes forward one second at a time.

Nevermind, mine sucks. Tell me how yours turns out.

reply to post by jude11


No no, thank you

reply to post by TaeKwonMoe


Is yours a clock/watch

Made my brain hurt too. I have but one suggestion....Don't let the government anywhere near it!!!!

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Originally posted by TaeKwonMoe
I've beaten you to it. I already invented a time machine a long time ago, but it only goes forward one second at a time.

Nevermind, mine sucks. Tell me how yours turns out.

bahahaha.

I love the OP - it's certainly a valid argument. The only problem is, perhaps the future reader would see what you'd written and think "he's trying to dupe us into visiting him!" and simply reject you altogether.

Probably what you'd need to do is commit some kind of pseudo-scientific universe-threatening experiment... so that if, in the next 100 years or so, the universe still existed, someone would use a time machine to come back and stop you.

Willing to do that?

Nah, me neither.

Q: Do you know how to drive a time-traveling machine inventor crazy?

A: Put him in a round room and tell him to pee in a corner.

I was driving in Tennessee once, and went backwards in time an entire hour.


reply to post by The GUT


I would say "spherical room." A round room still has corners.

Hurry up and make the time machine, you don't have much time.

You see aside from the ability to calculate an exact moment in time and space and determining how to accurately store anything for an extended period of time without it being disturbed... My biggest concern is convincing somebody who is capable of time travel and most likely fully aware of all of the risks involved that they need to come to this exact moment in time...

Chances are, they won't take time travel lightly and will consider themselves far superior to us in the way of intellect.

This will in my opinion be the hardest obstacle for us to overcome.

reply to post by sparda4355

-The argument/reason as to why they need to come to this specific time/place in their past...
-the way the argument is stored... (and for how long)
-what formula we will use to calculate what this specific place in time is assuming our calendar expires or becomes inaccurate...

Create a religion and incorporate it into the teachings. When the time comes in the future and a time machine is created your followers of that time period will make sure they come back to the creation of their religion because that is what you prophesied for them to do.
Use the alignments of the stars and earth to set time and place they are to return to.
Lat and Longitude maybe?

reply to post by Awen24


It's funny that you mention that...

I wouldn't be willing to "create" an issue that could potentially cause global destruction, you know... Just invade my experiment fails or time travel never exists in this manner.

However, if we could accurately predict a future global disaster that could arise from a current global issue, we could potentially use this knowledge to convince future time travelers that this is the exact moment in their history where such a disaster could be prevented.

reply to post by sparda4355


Whom ever builds a time machine is also going to have to build a spaceship, since our Earth, Solar System, and Galaxy are ever-moving through the universe (incredibly fast), anyone looking to go forward and/or backwards in time, even just a day would likely end up in space.
You'd do better to try and hijack a wormhole, or something of the like, provided the outcome isn't the same.

reply to post by TheLieWeLive


Wow... That is good!!!

The only foreseeable flaw could be that religion in and of itself is slowly becoming obsolete... Not that will necessarily ever cease to exist, but all and all great idea!

I was also thinking in the lines of literature as a potential option... A time based code that could take centuries to be discovered and then cracked. I sometimes wonder of this was in fact da vinci's plan, and if it was... Did he succeed?

Originally posted by FugitiveSoul
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Whom ever builds a time machine is also going to have to build a spaceship, since our Earth, Solar System, and Galaxy are ever-moving through the universe (incredibly fast), anyone looking to go forward and/or backwards in time, even just a day would likely end up in space.
You'd do better to try and hijack a wormhole, or something of the like, provided the outcome isn't the same.

edit on 25-1-2012 by FugitiveSoul because: (no reason given)

Although this is a valid point... It isn't necessarily relevant to my time machine... Assuming time travel ever exists and permits backwards movement, I believe it's also safe to presume these issues will have been solved.

Also a wormhole would be a likely way they would in fact travel time.

Side note: Although we are moving constantly through space, we are moving in a predictable manner... These adjustments could be easily calculated by anybody smart enough to create such a device...