The Templar Uprising

Originally posted by baalbuster
reply to post by Eidolon23

 

As I said before, I do believe cultural diversity must be maintained but we also have to do something to be a more united people of earth unless we are ok with just resigning ourselves to this planet for all eternity.

I totally agree. The problem is that the very people most likely to drive space exploration are those with a taste for novelty and adrenaline. In other words, the same guys who are inclined to wage perpetual war. The guys we're trying to chill out are the guys we need to get off the planet. And we can only get off the planet if we're stable enough for global cooperation. Which we can't have until we chill these guys out.

Oh, my aching head.

Originally posted by metalshredmetal
reply to post by InfoKartel

 

ok, you seem like a knowledgable enough person to ask this: years ago i recall researching about these assassins. i read that they perched themselves up atop a mountain range and made an elite esoteric community in the mountaintops...

i also read that: as we english-speakers call them "assassins", that their original name (or more so an original name) was Hashashins. i read that this group consumed a lot of hash/cannabis up there and this is where the term hash comes from, and the word assassin (from Hash-ashin). they must have believed that cannabis actually aided in their daily goings-ons in terms of spirituality...and optical, intellectual, physical, and general sensory acuteness.

you do tend to find a lot of muslims and "middle easterners" who enjoy consuming cannabis for spiritual purposes.

this posit might lead "straight-laced" people to assume that the myth is incorrect, because of all the demonizing propaganda surrounding cannabis....some might assume that cannabis intake would disable the assassin's ability to intelligently function and fulfill their assassin duties. I for one, don't believe that hash/cannabis necessarily inhibits physical & cognative dexterity...i think it is up to the mind-set of the user to decide how the THC in cannabis influences you.

i've always found the assassin group interesting because of this link,,,the link of the spiritual use of cannabis. they seem to be one of the oldest recorded groups who used cannabis for this purpose.

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I used to go to MMA training on cannabis all the time...for a more nervous person such as myself it actually allowed me to focus on technique and what my opponent was doing better. Don't know how I'd feel about sneaking behind someone and giving them the Metal Gear Solid treatment though lol.

reply to post by Eidolon23


Transference of the human bond to the state is one angle.

The other is the subliminated consciousness itself. Everyone sees domination in the meme.

But the thought-form is all about ... service to the lover and the fellowship for its protection. Christ, State, Woman, Fellowship - they are all aspects of each other.

Transference: I give you my warrior self. You give me the part of you that needs to be protected.

Alternately, we'll all get together and pretend our part that needs to be protected doesn't exist and hate it together, then as a group we'll protect that thing that we hate. This is the nastier version of it.

When the lover is untouchable and too good for you, or too nasty to touch, that's just an extra sheen of subverted sexuality. If you add in here the problem of nuclear porn wrecking some young men's ability to connect sexually and therefore intimately to women, the subversion process of transference goes into hyperdrive.

The individual expression of it is the same as the state version. The state as lover. This is the primal expression of the body politic, and in greatest irony of all it is the very thing that the collectivists are pushing and then can't grok what is happening when they are getting it. The state as parent seemed to go so well, but when it grows up and it becomes the State as spouse/lover suddenly the full impact of the complexity of the human is too much for it to bear.

The Templars followed the Essene Ways that reject the Babylon religion and emulated Jesus. They found the secrets of the 2nd Temple that opposed the ways of the Essene and Christ.

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Eidolon23

Originally posted by baalbuster
reply to post by Eidolon23

 

As I said before, I do believe cultural diversity must be maintained but we also have to do something to be a more united people of earth unless we are ok with just resigning ourselves to this planet for all eternity.

I totally agree. The problem is that the very people most likely to drive space exploration are those with a taste for novelty and adrenaline. In other words, the same guys who are inclined to wage perpetual war. The guys we're trying to chill out are the guys we need to get off the planet. And we can only get off the planet if we're stable enough for global cooperation. Which we can't have until we chill these guys out.

Oh, my aching head.

Guess that might be the work for a totally knew meme then?

Lets create a Captain Kirk-esque god

Originally posted by baalbuster

Guess that might be the work for a totally knew meme then?

Lets create a Captain Kirk-esque god

I high-five you in spirit, sir.

reply to post by Aeons


Wait, is that why the pair-bond has been napalmed? So that men and women who can no longer relate to eachother look to have those needs met elsewhere? And can be easily diverted into any subgroup one likes, if one knows how to jimmy that crack?

Also, well done, lady. You are a pack and a half of fizzy Awesome Juice.

Originally posted by sleepermustawaken
reply to post by Eidolon23

 

I think you are right about the increase in people adhering to religious or quasi-religious groups. I think it is because of a polarization taking place across the world. I think that we all subconsciously understand that the world must undergo serious change to survive under the weight of so many people, so many governments, so much corruption and so little morality, ethics, responsibility, or accountability.

The natural response is to reach out to like-minded individuals with common and comfortable symbols and language. Templars, Masons, etc. have been given an aura of dangerous mystery in popular media. If I say to a layperson, 'I am a Templar.', what they will take away is only that I am involved in something outside of the known realm for most people, but I am linked to the Church. You wouldn't want to be in my Templar gang if you were a muslim. You would be comfortable with a different set of symbols and language, and be linked to a different church.

To see an increase in 'Templars', just tells me that people are choosing to side with the Church. I am sure that in Israel and Iran there is an increase of the same kind, respective to culture. We all know that a major conflict is going to happen, and even in our gang names and avatars we pick sides.

Well said, over in the middle east, I'm sure they say "I'm in the Muslim Brotherhood" or W/E..this is the west's polarizing religious sect that feels empowering to people perhaps?

reply to post by Eidolon23


Thanks Alice. I'm just running after your rabbit.

Originally posted by Eidolon23
reply to post by Aeons

 

Wait, is that why the pair-bond has been napalmed? So that men and women who can no longer relate to eachother look to have those needs met elsewhere? And can be easily diverted into any subgroup one likes, if one knows how to jimmy that crack?

Also, well done, lady. You are a pack and a half of fizzy Awesome Juice.

The True Believers in the collectivist state truly believe that the napalmed pair bond is The Way to human perfection.

The way to uniting the individual's consciousness perhaps.

They've sold it well. People believe. Those who don't believe it completely are getting emotionally napalmed when they have strong emotional reactions to the thing that society has become blase about. This is scarring them and drives them away from the pair bond as personal protection. Others are running full speed into the blast range of Nuclear Porn and getting blown away.

Some people don't want to believe it - but some of these people are growing up and "know" that porn isnt real. But they have no other depiction of human intimacy. When they engage in it, they blow themselves up by having no other acceptable means of expressing their sexual self. Just because you know that those people are actors, doesn't mean that your primal brain does.

The True Believers are probably being poked along by the blacker arts, who know that they are off track but are willing to grant them extra rope to hang themselves with. Give me millions of people whose demons are out of control fools.

reply to post by Aeons


Nicely written

There isn't much I can add other than to say that's an interesting insight.
Alice doesn't live here anymore....

The Templar meme somehow resonates with justified bloodshed,at least with me.Like it's alright killing people in name of ideals, or higher cause,the noble knight can do no wrong.And are you guys talking about the ancient Mithraism ,the mystery religion that the Roman soldiers followed.I've heard that today no one actually knows the true meaning of it's symbols.

reply to post by Aeons


Great post my friend!

Makes one wonder how long this destruction of intimacy between us has been going on...I'll admit I see no intimacy with the last generation of my family and even less amongst people of my generation, but its probably been going on for ages.

reply to post by crazyray


many TV shows have been made about things containing this word also, along with numerous documentaries on History Channel and others. It's kind of like the chicken egg crap with these search trend things.

Originally posted by Xoanon
reply to post by network dude

 

I would think it's much more possible that the templars kept an existence and maintain one to this day, than the fabled Illuminati that everyone keeps blaming all their problems on. The templars were around a long time and they were very powerful. Maybe we are entering into a new enlightenment era? One could only hope.

Hi network dude,

I am making my way through these posts and wanted to ask you while I remember,

You make it pretty clear that you think that it is likely that the Templars are still around spending that treasure. But are you saying that this 'new era of enlightenment' that we may be entering in to is going to somehow be at the hands or by the cause of the Templars? I am pretty sure I am reading that right.

So what are the Templars going to bring to the table to enlighten us all? Baphomet? Wisdom from the 'east' in the form of more borrowed mathematics and architecture?

Thanks in advance.

X.

I do not think it's clear they are still in existence, only that of any group from history, I would think they have the best chance at surviving and doing so covertly. If they are still around, and that is a big "if", then I would hope they still adhear to their original charters and would not spend the treasure, but protect it. Balphomet? BWahaha! You need to study a bit more if you fall for that. Philip the Fair invented those charges, then tortured the templars he had caught forcing them to confess to all sorts of things. Spitting on the cross, worshiping Balphomet, (whomever he is) and basically going against God. (one of the most terrible crimes you could do in that time) He did so to ensure he didn't have to pay the Templars back the money he had borrowed from them. he had the Pope on his side, and knowing how powerful the church was then, he was unstoppable.

Consequently, some of the same charges brought against the templars have been recycled and used to slander freemasonry. I guess lies that good should not go to waste.

I am of the camp that hopes somebody can uncover proof of a masonic connection to the templars. It would make some great history.

reply to post by adnachiel21


Mithraism would one of the forms of a primal meme that has been represented by different gods and ideologies down through the ages.

Originally posted by adnachiel21
The Templar meme somehow resonates with justified bloodshed,at least with me.Like it's alright killing people in name of ideals, or higher cause,the noble knight can do no wrong.And are you guys talking about the ancient Mithraism ,the mystery religion that the Roman soldiers followed.I've heard that today no one actually knows the true meaning of it's symbols.

Justified bloodshed. Yup. But with an entirely new set of pseudo-moral parameters, and with most of the theology stripped out. Makes the justification process that much more schizoidal, maybe.

The vaunted Mithraic ties to the Templars sort of put us out int the weeds, in terms of reliable material. It's fun to look into, but no one puts any real academic weight on the concept. When I assign this meme to certain egregores (Gods), I do so entirely under my own steam.

Originally posted by baalbuster
reply to post by Aeons

 

Great post my friend!

Makes one wonder how long this destruction of intimacy between us has been going on...I'll admit I see no intimacy with the last generation of my family and even less amongst people of my generation, but its probably been going on for ages.

I think there's a very good thread to be had out of this pair-bond stuff.

I think that's next up on the docket.

"The Conspiracy Against Lovers: the Real Secret They Don't Want You To Know"

reply to post by Eidolon23


Agreed. Its the most fundamental aspect of human existence which progresses our species...definitely deserves discussion with such an attack going on.

Can I start naming traits to kick things off. Good, Bad, Opposites, Resonances.

Strength
Honour
Protection
Love
Fellowship
Competition
Goal Driven
Family / Tribe based

Tag.