The Templar Uprising

reply to post by Xoanon


Were they ever out of favor in the first place or just dormant?
Good to see you in action



reply to post by Eidolon23

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Xoanon

 

Were they ever out of favor in the first place or just dormant?
Good to see you in action

Dormancy is what I'm betting on, or remission if we are addressing the Shadow of the meme.

But do you mean that there is an organization that has gone dormant, rather than an idea? Because that is pretty interesting too. If so, would that organization becoming active again have any correlation to the Templar boom?

reply to post by Eidolon23


I was going to comment on The “sage of Küsnacht”

His life also delved into the spiritual,mystical.

From the beginning............

Yet Jung’s involvement with the occult was with him from the start – literally, it was in his DNA. His maternal grandfather, Rev. Samuel Preiswerk, who learned Hebrew because he believed it was spoken in heaven, accepted the reality of spirits, and kept a chair in his study for the ghost of his deceased first wife, who often came to visit him. Jung’s mother Emilie was employed by Samuel to shoo away the dead who distracted him while he was working on his sermons.

The Occult World of CG Jung


Many question their spirituality. God,or reason of being.

In the end, Everyone wants answers,and some believe they are kept secret.

What better way then to have a "society" of men,destined to hold that wealth of knowledge,secretively.

Hence,the Uprising........

A little bird just recently brought this interesting book to my attention. book.

A thousand years ago Christian battled Muslim for possession of a strip of land upon which both their religions were founded. These Crusades changed the course of Western history, but less known is the fact that they also were the meeting ground for two legendary secret societies: The Knights Templar and their Muslim counterparts, the Assassins.

From my understanding not everything in the present tense is happenstance.

reply to post by sonnny1


I know the whole secret club with special handshakes and mind-blowing hidden knowledge thing is definitely a big draw.

But that surely isn't all there is to it? It is very difficult for me to imagine any of the surviving mystery-cult clubs to have sufficient magnetism for what we're seeing happen here. And I'll tell you why: cults are a lot of fun, but in the end, they mostly amount to a collection of in-jokes.

I think the main hooks here are much deeper than that. That stuff just plays off the need to belong to an in-group. The Templar Uprising is touching on things that are far more visceral.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
A little bird just recently brought this interesting book to my attention. book.

A thousand years ago Christian battled Muslim for possession of a strip of land upon which both their religions were founded. These Crusades changed the course of Western history, but less known is the fact that they also were the meeting ground for two legendary secret societies: The Knights Templar and their Muslim counterparts, the Assassins.

From my understanding not everything in the present tense is happenstance.

Ah. I believe I take your meaning.

I wonder if there are OG Templar vs.Neo-Templar conflicts. God, this is getting weird

reply to post by Eidolon23


"Since the world begun mankind has been possessed"

Couldn't agree more...I've always thought the first monarchs/god-kings must have had some damn good ideology or mythology attached to their claim over other peoples lives and land.

reply to post by sonnny1


Hey, I really enjoyed those links, and found the passages you cited extremely valuable.

Thanks.

reply to post by Eidolon23


Age of change?

Age of refocusing?

Return to a grander understanding of self and of the world around us?

Reunification of something ancient which was separated at one time but now which the world can longer continue to function with it being divided? Is there a resonance expanding?

Originally posted by SLAYER69
I just wanted to jump in and say..

It is good to see these types of discussions return to ATS. I've always learned so much from them in the past and do appreciate the various members contributions. It's refreshing to see it again

Proceed.

I gotta say I love your threads in the Lost Civs forum, good to see you in on this one man

reply to post by SLAYER69


Uh, crap. Alternative interpretation:

The latter-day Templars and Assassins are in collusion to have a nice Big War, and make a killing on the black market while they're at it.

I hope that's not it. Because that would be some very bad news indeed.

Originally posted by Eidolon23
reply to post by sonnny1

 

I know the whole secret club with special handshakes and mind-blowing hidden knowledge thing is definitely a big draw.

But that surely isn't all there is to it? It is very difficult for me to imagine any of the surviving mystery-cult clubs to have sufficient magnetism for what we're seeing happen here. And I'll tell you why: cults are a lot of fun, but in the end, they mostly amount to a collection of in-jokes.

I think the main hooks here are much deeper than that. That stuff just plays off the need to belong to an in-group. The Templar Uprising is touching on things that are far more visceral.

I dont know. It does go beyond Decoder rings, Jesus Lineage,and Vatican secrecy.

I really think the whole spirituality aspect is the linch-pin. I think man "needs" to know. The feel is that these organizations have the "secrets" to all, Or if you follow down the rabbit-hole of the Templar's,or Freemasons, then you might find some lost bygone answers to the "conspiracy's" of today. Its like "wanting" to find a finished copy of "The Mystery of Edwin Drood" left by Dickens himself. Unfortunately we all know there isn't one,but what happens if someone "says" there is ? A whisper,from someone that says they were with the man,on his death bed ? Years pass,and the myth takes shape. Just the quest would be something worthwhile to those who appreciate his works,even if it was wrong. Its a longing of something lost. A time where mysteries were bred to live.Thats what I get from Templar lore.

reply to post by SLAYER69

Were they ever out of favor in the first place or just dormant?

Well, that's the crux of it, I suppose. It must have never been dormant. That really is the question, well in my mind maybe a question with a sub-question. I totally get how I could be so influenced as a small child by The Sword in the Stone and how we as boys emulate those characters, the Knights of the Round Table. I remember the first time I saw the God and Country badge (scouts) as a young teen. Having never seen those two words put together so plainly before, I remember the moment like it was yesterday. It was like everything I thought separately about those two words came together then. It was an acute experience that I refer to often for reflection upon myself and the reasons I do stuff.

Anyhow, I had other experiences later in life and because I had that core experience to refer to I was able to tell if somebody was deliberately #ing with that part of me. I have always been sure of it. Not paranoid or suspicious; but knowing and swift like lightning. That part of me that is able to believe like that, I know very well. I guess I am lucky. At an early age I realized that what I was giving out was my suspension of disbelief. I knew that when I chose to be down with something, it was because I chose to be down with it. not because I was coerced. I hate being coerced. Don't you?

What this thread has caused me to think about is exactly what the OP is getting at and that I now think is also found in my 'core experience thing i described. The Templar thing seems to be able to fuse those two things together, God and Country, Nationalism and Religion. But since BaalBuster and Eidolon23 have pointed out that this Templar meme (TM) is not necessarily a case of nationalism, then the question becomes; how is it that this TM is now used to rather galvanize the intentions of groups of people that are in many cases only connected by the internet?

What do you think?

X.

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Eidolon23

 

Age of change?

Age of refocusing?

Return to a grander understanding of self and of the world around us?

Reunification of something ancient which was separated at one time but now which the world can longer continue to function with it being divided? Is there a resonance expanding?

That's my hope. Right there.

I want it to be that so much it hurts to think about.

Because as things stand, it's manifesting as a cancerous thing. The only way to counteract it is through spreading the Arthurian mythos, I'm starting to think. That's as fine a distillate as I think we're going to find, if we want to spread the Templar Goodness around.

reply to post by baalbuster




Thanks

It's good to know some people are interested in the same topics. I've been delving into this subject for a few years now. I'm actually gearing up to write on the very premise of this thread. So, this was a very interesting and timely thread to read.

As you can tell from my last reply [Bit on the mysterious side] I'm headed way outside the box in this next one

reply to post by Eidolon23


No problem.

Like I said,I have been looking into this for a while.

I have been searching the spiritual aspect,the "whys" .

History is filled with nefarious cults,demonized society's.

As Churchill said........


“History is written by the victors.”

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by baalbuster

 

Thanks

It's good to know some people are interested in the same topics. I've been delving into this subject for a few years now. I'm actually gearing up to write on the very premise of this thread. So, this was a very interesting and timely thread to read.

As you can tell from my last reply [Bit on the mysterious side] I'm headed way outside the box in this next one

Awesome, I shall be anxiously awaiting it my friend!

reply to post by Eidolon23

The latter-day Templars and Assassins are in collusion to have a nice Big War, and make a killing on the black market while they're at it. I hope that's not it. Because that would be some very bad news indeed.

I would like to suggest that that is precisely what they are doing, they are still doing it. And they would like to continue doing it.

This is where the problem lies. The TM (Templar Meme) seems to have this magical effect that causes perfectly reasonable and capable men to throw their common sense out the window.

Their brains fall right out.

Watch...

Templar Porn



Jesus! That isn't even really Templar Chants, it is some modern fan-boy Templar Chant. Oh no.



Listen for the squish.

X.

reply to post by Eidolon23


Great job OP

I'm out, have a long day on the morrow.

PEACE

oh yeah S & F

Originally posted by SLAYER69
reply to post by Eidolon23

 

Age of change?

Age of refocusing?

Return to a grander understanding of self and of the world around us?

Reunification of something ancient which was separated at one time but now which the world can longer continue to function with it being divided? Is there a resonance expanding?

If there was anything that attracted me to this "meme" it is this....what I feel would be a great regaining of knowledge that has been lost or hoarded. Ever since I heard the story of how the Templars might have found something like the Ark of the Covenant in the ruins of Solomon's Temple (The Temple itself is a whole 'nother mystery thats also captivated me) I've felt like a mad man at times trying to find leads or clues to further my understanding of these things.

Some people are driven by romantic ideals playing to more primal roles in the genders....but to me its ALWAYS been about the mystery of it all.