Did Carl Sagan know something?

Originally posted by liejunkie01
Nice thread and definitely deserving of more flags but,

As you can see, this really is out of the realms of a couple of drunks with their planks of wood and string.

What if it were a couple of drunk college kids that are well versed in their earthly biology and the universe?

I certainly cannot rule this out...........

Just because it is a little more sophisticated than a yen-yang, does not mean that it was made by the aliens.

Meh - I'd say just a little rooting around is enough to convince a logically thinking person that all crop circles aren't made from people. In my opinion, denying that flat out is just evidence of a closed, and probably scared, mind.

reply to post by WhiteDevil013


So, two snippets from some mysterious article that seemingly isn't even worth posting a link to somehow proves the crop circles in the OP aren't man made?

Awesome...

he knew about the chara

Since this "not being about crop circles" doesn't make sense:

A binary-coded disc could be EASILY made with a rope, a pole at the center of soon to be disc, and two different lengths of board. If you had technology to travel throughout the galaxy (or farther) why would you draw on the ground? That's about as dumb as forgetting to "flip" an image when writing on the inside of the window. Why not opt for an etched titanium cube or something to make us silly natives say "holy sh!t, that had to have come from another planet!"

This also bugs me: A dot matrix pattern? Maybe the aliens come from the disco nebula.

The nature of a hoax points to the mindset of the originator.

Originally posted by MeMyselfI

Originally posted by VoidHawk
The area showing our solar system is slightly different.

Don't know about all of this post, but the part (above) about the solar system depiction caught my attention...

The reply, showing Earth, Mars, and Jupiter raised up, AND Jupiter "glowing" made me think of *2001: A Space Odyssey*! Recall in the sequel, "2010", Jupiter is turned into a new "sun" so that our system becomes a binary star system. This could also (maybe) make Mars habitable. To me this looks like what the reply is showing us...

I was also intrigued by the imagery then it struck me, if anything those would be representing 4 of Jupiter's moon's, and it's certainly likely that a few of those could host life of some description.

edit - as for the authenticity of the crop circle, has anyone actually owned up to creating it ?

I said several times that its not about the crop circles (for me) because I was seeking an answer to a simple question concerning dna. This was eventualy politely answered. I included the path that led me to my question because I knew people would want to know why I was asking it. I'm quite new to forums so I did not realise that my question would be ignored in preference to a debunking frenzy. I live and I learn.

Twisted words.
I have never said the circles were made by aliens, I also never said they were made by man, I SUGGESTED both options. I did say I believe it would take millitary style planning to acheive such formations as those included in the op. To those that suggested they use modern technology to create the formations consider this. I showed the mill Hill formation to an engineer who uses this technology on construction sites. He refuses to believe the formation was created within a four hour window during darkness. He estimates two days during daylight. The farmer who owns the field confirms the time window.

Mill Hill. Poor image but compare it to Doug and Daves.



Doug and Dave.
Here's one of their circles.

I think we can all see the difference.
When they were questioned and asked to explain how they acheived the more complex circles they were stumped for an answer. In the uk Doug and Dave are a joke. Even the media nolonger talk about them because they've been DEBUNKED.

Companies creating crop formations.
This took several days with helicopters and hitech lasers and a large team of people. Another poor image but it makes the point


I notice that the anonymous post I included (concerning dna) in the op has NEVER been used to debunk this thread!! Those scientists that did mention it were excited by it, even saying they were going to work on the data.

Pretty sure Carl knew the hidden truth behind the potential of a certain herb that has been illegal for over 50 years now.

Ha, just kidding. Was a really well thought out and informative read. In my opinion based on the facts you have presented I would like to research further into what Carl actually did when he was recruited by the intelligence agency. Also, the crop circles you presented look quite complicated. For humans to make a circle like this overnight I would think someone would need to program a bunch of robots with coordinates of the pattern to be created or something with a similar method. Seems like crop circles get discussed in circles where really nothing can be confirmed, but they are quite interesting and a marvel to behold.

It is amazing that some of you consider that people is making this crop circles. There are crop circles of hundred of meters, even if you have a month with all the tools you could not build some crop circles because they are perfect.

How could some one create a 3D crop circle like the alien?


See this video of some UFO creating a crop circle.

Originally posted by digitalf

as for the authenticity of the crop circle, has anyone actually owned up to creating it ?

edit on 25-1-2012 by digitalf because

No. Thats whats so odd. Some circles are without doubt works of art but the creaters remain anon. extra DIV