"God is an Imaginary Friend" Athiest Billboards in Denver-

Originally posted by AllUrChips
reply to post by wlord

 

Just remember: More wars have been fought, and more blood has been shed from religion, than atheism. That tells me religion will most certainly be the downfall for human kind. I dont mind if or what people believe in, but to quote the late, great John Lennon, "if your talkin bout destruction, dont you know that you can count me out?"

edit on 23-1-2012 by AllUrChips because: (no reason given)

Agreed. Spirituality isn't the problem, it's religion.
Like the saying; "Individuals are smart, mobs are stupid" religions are prime examples of this, and no religion is immune.

I don't like ANY type of billboard religious or not. They distract from driving and they distract from the wonderful views in my area. I wish they were not allowed but they are popping up all over the place. We are bombarded with advertisements everywhere we go and as far as I am concerned billboards are going a step too far.

But... if billboards are legal, then I see nothing wrong with atheist putting up their own billboards just as other religions and corporations do.

Harm None
Peace

“The best revolutionary is a youth devoid of morals.” —Vladimir Lenin

It's also the signature of Satan. Most Athiests just don't understand how anti- God and anti-Jesus propaganda has been dripped into their veins like a drug for one purpose - to help Satan corrupt society. Once he's done with them, they'll be slaughtered like me, a follower of God through His Son, Jesus Christ.

Whilst legal, these Athiests feel that they must make a point - when all that they are doing is contributing to the slaughter of Christians and themselves and the wholesale destruction of America into a communist red beast from hell.

Originally posted by AllUrChips
reply to post by wlord

 

Just remember: More wars have been fought, and more blood has been shed from religion, than atheism. That tells me religion will most certainly be the downfall for human kind. I dont mind if or what people believe in, but to quote the late, great John Lennon, "if your talkin bout destruction, dont you know that you can count me out?"

edit on 23-1-2012 by AllUrChips because: (no reason given)

Somehow I believe that if it were not in the "name" of religion, it would be in the name of something else... Science? Probably so...

Look, people dont need a reason to hate another group of people. To think that if religion alone had anything to do with it, one would be "drinking the punch" and is very much overlooking the real issue. PEOPLE like to KILL those who are not LIKE THEM.

Basing this on religion alone is foolish and simply pointing fingers. Considering how the church very often condemned their own to death...

I lack faith in the ability of billboard advertising to cause people to question or change their personal belief system.

I could care either way, but would the Atheists complain if someone put up billboards saying "all Atheists are going to burn in hell" for not believing in G-d? IMO, I think Atheists push the envelope more so than Christians do to make a point. I mean really, is it necessary to make such a statements? What does it have to gain? You would think with everything else going haywire in the world, you would find other things more important to address. IMO, it's childish and immature...

reply to post by ThisIsMyName


the problem is - why do you need an imaginary friend to tell you to do good ?

I don't know anyone, religious or athiest, who had their opinion swayed by a billboard.

you don't need a god to devote yourself to, but it helps. Devotion is the easiest way to the absolute.

I’m not going to go into the intricacies of why I am a Christian. I think it is more so about morality. If I go out and pick up a gun, put it to your head, pull the trigger, than I feel I’m going to have to answer to “someone” for it. It has been proven that children who have faith are more courteous, respectful, sympathetic, etc. than atheists are. (As soon as I find the stats, I will post them). When I was a kid, you never heard about kids shooting or stabbing other kids to death. Why was that? First of all, I think “family” was a big component. I sat down with my family and enjoyed meals and quality family time together. We talked about how our day was. How we were feeling. Our stresses. Things were never able to build up in one’s self. Nowadays both Mom and Dad are working trying to keep up with the Joneses. No one knows half the time what the kids are up too. And then you have peer pressure to boot.

It seems senseless to go thru the effort to put billboards like that up. There is really no gainful purpose to it other than to say….”Look Everyone I can irritate a bunch of people, and there’s nothing you can do about it”. It just seems like a person could take that money and put it to better use. What a waste…

This kind of thing kind of makes me be of two minds:

On the one hand, they do have a right to post stuff stating their beliefs.

On the other, I've never been fond of the idea of categorizing Theists as mentally ill, and that's one of the undertones on a board like that. Such ideas are, to my mind, little different than Christians tell gay people they're going to Hell, which more and more people are starting to call hate speech.

reply to post by Thingol


This is coming from someone who believes the bible is the written word of god. I believe the bible is re-written ancient texts, I do not believe it is the word of god. You want to talk about evil people in atheism, how about the Westboro church... we could go back and forth all day about evil people in both religion and atheism, but at the end of the day it is man. It is man and how he manipulates his own beliefs to justify the cause.

Why must I be on the far side of the fence with atheism just as I am sure you think those at Westboro Baptist's are nuts.

The term atheism originated from the Greek ἄθεος (atheos), meaning "without god", used as a pejorative term applied to those thought to reject the gods worshipped by the larger society. With the spread of freethought, skeptical inquiry, and subsequent increase in criticism of religion, application of the term narrowed in scope. The first individuals to identify themselves as "atheist" lived in the 18th century.[8] Atheists tend to be skeptical of supernatural claims, citing a lack of empirical evidence. Rationales for not believing in any deity include the problem of evil, the argument from inconsistent revelations, and the argument from nonbelief. Other arguments for atheism range from the philosophical to the social to the historical. Although some atheists have adopted secular philosophies,[9][10] there is no one ideology or set of behaviors to which all atheists adhere.[11] Many atheists hold that atheism is a more parsimonious worldview than theism, and therefore the burden of proof lies not on the atheist to disprove the existence of God, but on the theist to provide a rationale for theism.

Atheism a breif summary

Do not claim you know the truth, non of us do...

Originally posted by wlord
I've heard that argument many times. I'm not gonna get into why i don't go with that but, I rather have a world of ghandis and MLK's than a world with 'common sense' people.

what about a world of hitlers and spanish inquisitions?

that sound fun?

Originally posted by ignorant_ape
reply to post by ThisIsMyName

 

the problem is - why do you need an imaginary friend to tell you to do good ?

What is good if not defined by that imaginary friend?

Originally posted by Propulsion
I could care either way, but would the Atheists complain if someone put up billboards saying "all Atheists are going to burn in hell" for not believing in G-d? IMO, I think Atheists push the envelope more so than Christians do to make a point. I mean really, is it necessary to make such a statements? What does it have to gain? You would think with everything else going haywire in the world, you would find other things more important to address. IMO, it's childish and immature...

sorry, but i dont recall the athiests saying anyone was gonna burn for being a christian, which is EXACTLY what christian think will happen to athiests, gays, etc, etc...

There is something I really dont get from atheists. Proving the non-existence of God is exaclty as impossible than proving His existence.

In the case of a believer, believing in the existence of God takes an act of faith.

In the case of an atheist, believing in the non-existence of God, also takes an act of faith. Indeed, despite all the "reason" coated arguments that may lead an atheist to sustain that God is just a figment of our imagination, at long end, choosing to not believe in God, is a belief in itself and as such, is also an act of faith.

In both cases, faith -that irrational part of our psyche- is the keyword here.

From chaos, order will never follow. From nothingness, no thing will ever be.

And yet, there is order. And yet, we are.

Why would you choose to believe in nothingness, when existence and the order that governs the universe points to the contrary?

I cannot for the life of understand why People of Faith cannot seem to tolerate religous (or the lack thereof)
diversity. It seems to me that the Church, i use this term broadly to encompass all of organized religion, wants
nothing more than to "clamp down" on any belief that does not directly coencide with the specific Dogma of their
respective organization. What i mean is, why can't the Zealots just ignore the folks who do not conform to their
religion and simply be okay with "being the chosen" or "going to heaven" or "not burning in eternal hellfire"? The
religious among us need to just stop pushing their beliefs on people who do not and or never will believe, i can't
begin to numerate the times in my adult life i have been woken up at 7am to find Jehova's witnesses at my door
bombarding me with copies of the "watchtower" asking if i had "heard the good news"... Ya I heard it, and I am
not interested.

why is the structure of this so out of whack? wtf??

Originally posted by Propulsion
I could care either way, but would the Atheists complain if someone put up billboards saying "all Atheists are going to burn in hell" for not believing in G-d?

I didn't see this billboard addressing any particular religion, or attacking any?

Just stating a fact.


And there are many "Repent NOW... or else" Billboards.

IMO, I think Atheists push the envelope more so than Christians do to make a point. I mean really, is it necessary to make such a statements? What does it have to gain?

Why is it necessary for ANYONE to put up billboards spouting off their belief or opinion?
For years people have had religion rammed down their throats and had billboards and commercials and signs and leaflets and all manner of religious nonsense inflicted on them.

Nobody batted an eyelid...

As soon as some people put up humorous, tongue in cheek, counter billboards, expressing an opposing but valid viewpoint, people seem to have an issue and start attacking Atheists.

It's hypocrisy and BS.

I want to make a billboard that reads:

GREAT CTHULHU!! WE AWAIT YOUR RETURN!!

Nothing wrong with this, in fact I like it! I wouldn't push my atheism on anyone though, it's as annoying as pushing religion on people.

The best way to get under believers skin is to have a "serious" discussion with them about some religious topic or story and replace words/phrase like "holy" and "blessed him" with "magic" and "put a spell on him" etc. My dad loses his mind when I do this. Example...

My Dad: So Jesus blessed so-and-so for whatever reason.
Me: Ok, so after Jesus put the spell on him...
My Dad: It was not a spell, he blessed him.
Me: What's the difference?
My Dad: Because it's just not the same thing!
Me: Ok, whatever...so then they traveled to the magic land...
My Dad: Holy Land!
Me: That's what I said.
My Dad: No, you said magic land.
Me: Isn't magical the same as holy?
My Dad: ...you're still an idiot at 40, where did I go wrong with you?