‘Occupiers’ Throw Bibles, Allegedly Urinate on Cross

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by JibbyJedi

 

So what a few individuals do reflects the entire group?

You know? That line is getting old. And short answer, yes it does.

edit on 23-1-2012 by thehoneycomb because: (no reason given)

Going off this mind set, I'm going to lump Christians / Catholics and the like into a group called "murderers." Since, I'm sure you're well aware, there were mass killings (in the millions) in the name of their holy god and religion.

And I'm going to lump Americans into the group of "Lazy, brainwashed, lunatics who want to take over the world"

Sounds good!

On a serious note, who cares? Really, if you're all bent out of shape about the bible being treated like this, you need a reality check. This "holy book" has been rewritten more times than I have wrote out my name... by who? Man, so what makes it any different than the books the police officers took from the OWS assembly in NY and threw them away?

This is what happens to a movement that wants to represent people that want nothing to do with them.

They said they are the 99% and falsely said they represent me. I said NO and I won't touch you with a ten yard pole.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
This is what happens to a movement that wants to represent people that want nothing to do with them.

They said they are the 99% and falsely said they represent me. I said NO and I won't touch you with a ten yard pole.

the 99% thing isn't saying they are holding the ideals of 99% of the public, its a statement to base laws on the 99% and not on corporate laws that strive to empower the 1% above the rest (as is now).

Money does not equal speech, corporations are not people, our entire trade and political system should not be designed for the sole purpose of enhancing the top tycoons to make even more profit by giving benefits for job exportation.

the overall aim and goals may be different from person to person, but the base ideals is quite appropriately labelled the 99%.
If you feel some hippy with a drum is misrepresenting you, then go out there and stand for your own ideals...chances are very very high it will fall in the scope of the movement..some will disagree with your views, some may agree fully, but this is not a con v lib movement..its a movement to bring awareness to the current structure benefitting only the most elite and allowing detrimental effects to all of society in the form of corporate elitism

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Wall street, the banks and big commerce are the puppet masters. The politicians are the puppets correct? This is something that is not only self-evident but it is also admitted by most people on the right. Correct?

Then to go after the puppets is insane, we have been doing that for decades and nothing changes.

This is because they are puppets.

You have to go after the ones pulling the strings, the VERY thing our founding fathers told us.

Do you understand this?!?!?

reply to post by JibbyJedi


that has no relevance as the TSA would rather grope 6 year old girls and infant diapers than look at the guy with the turbin so as to seem politically correct.

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its not about a bible or a cross so much as basically ransacking a church when instead they could go to books-a-million and buy a bible, and buy a cross form somewhere else and accomplish the same thing. oh wait, forget books-a-million, thats corporate America.. so yeah, they were right in vandalizing a church to get these things.

if its true and your judged by the company you keep, and these and past actions do NOT represent all of OWS, then the majority need to break away. They need to distance themselves from this, and start over, this time screening people so that they can make sure their message isn't over shadowed by events such as this.

reply to post by LoneGunMan


Wall Street is a place where people invest their own money into companies and products that offer the best return. It has every right to exist and investors have every right to make political contributions for which ever party they choose.

Simple.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by LoneGunMan

 

Wall Street is a place where people invest their own money into companies and products that offer the best return. It has every right to exist and investors have every right to make political contributions for which ever party they choose.

Simple.

This is everything our nation is not. This is about old world power taking the average Americans life liberty and the pursuit of happiness. Just because its legal to make money while contributing nothing to society at the cost of others is not right in Gods eye's.

You also think they should have the right to unlimited campaign contributions? So they can make sure the guy they want is elected?

If you believe these things then you are not a real American.

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Did a priest molest one of them? I hope the protesters are okay.

OWS still trying to stay relevant huh???

Unfortunately, this is the only why they can attempt to stay relevant. Their non-message movement failed and no one cares about them anymore. Last week there was a "occupy congress"...Occupiers nationwide were supposed to go to the capital to protest....they managed "hundreds" of protestors

Hopefully these occupiers who are desperately trying to stay relevant don't attempt violence as their last resort.

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They are just trying to destroy an element of free market capitalism. That in which demand determines the market.

What Obama wants and the OWS movement strives for is Socialism, in which workers try to determine the market.

We all saw how well that worked with companies like Solyndra and Government Motors electric cars.

OWS is as dead as it is un-american.

reply to post by QUANTUMGR4V17Y

On a serious note, who cares? Really, if you're all bent out of shape about the bible being treated like this, you need a reality check. This "holy book" has been rewritten more times than I have wrote out my nam

Yet when muslims kill people because their quran is violated, the very same people making statements like you just did, make excuses for them......and how we should be more tolerant

I love hypocrisy

Well the GOP has been painted with a broad brush for decades they are all evil racist bigot fascists.

The Tea Party has been painted with the same brush for the last 3 years.

What only Liberals and OWS get to paint with broad brushes?

All Coroprations are evil kill the rich burn the rich etc.


Gurantee OWS supporters do not have the balls to burn a koran that was unacceptable!

Burning and urinating on bible and crosses is ok in their books!

Quite the hyporcrisy.

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I am going to give OWS this: There is a problem with distribution. The widening income gap is not to anyone's advantage, not even to the advantage of the idiots who want it.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by LoneGunMan

 

Wall Street is a place where people invest their own money into companies and products that offer the best return. It has every right to exist and investors have every right to make political contributions for which ever party they choose.

Wall street is not the root of the problem. Capitalism itself is the problem. Capitalism being the private ownership of the means of production, (not free-markets).

It is exploitative because workers have to produce more than they are paid for in order for the private owner to make profit. Capitalism effects our communities in many negative ways. Everything from having to compete for 'jobs', to sending people to war.

In order for capitalists to continue making profit they have to keep resources artificially scarce, including jobs.
We are tired of this crap. We produce enough now for everyone to be fat and happy, including the starving in Africa. People die because of capitalism, because 'private owners' manipulate society in order to continue making profit at our expense.

This system is unnecessary, and you have all been blinded by conditioning. Capitalism only gives freedom to those who own capital, the rest of us are at the mercy of them. We're not free, we live within the confines of the capitalist system. Please mister give us a job?

The one strategy open to crisis-ridden capitalism that doesn't risk class antagonism is the creation of artificial scarcity through regimes of intellectual property. Sander explains, however, that the ‘production of innovation' is no replacement for the production of value....

Artificial scarcity in a world of overproduction: an ecape that isn't

Capitalism creates artificial scarcity in order for capitalists to make profit. If profits drop for whatever reason then we are the ones who suffer, unemployment, rampant inflation, poverty, desperation, apathy, death.

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by JibbyJedi

 

So what a few individuals do reflects the entire group?

You know? That line is getting old. And short answer, yes it does.

edit on 23-1-2012 by thehoneycomb because: (no reason given)

Actually no it does not. I see the event took place in America. Are you okay with being equated to those bible throwing individuals? Or seen as there have been, are and will be American pedophiles, does that make you and all of America a pedophile?

Originally posted by thehoneycomb
reply to post by LoneGunMan

 

They are just trying to destroy an element of free market capitalism.

Free-market capitalism is an oxymoron.

It is only free for those who own capital and make their living from it, the rest of us are at the mercy of them.

Capitalism can not be free-markets when those markets are controlled by those at the top of the pyramid scheme.
We can't all be property owners, someone has to do the labour, and as history proves those who do own capital financially control those who don't. That will never change.

The market system does not need capitalism.

The term capitalism was created by socialists to mean the private ownership of the means of production. Capitalists never tell you this. It's just another revisionist attempt to hijack left wing terms, just like they did with 'libertarian'. It is all done to make you a more easily controlled labour slave.

If you think capitalism is moral, then you are sadly mistaken. Words have meanings, and for them to make any sense they must be interpenetrated by their historical reality and implications, not by the twisted definitions after the fact.

The first person to use the term capitalism was Louis Blanc, a French socialist, in 1858, he defined it as 'the appropriation of capital by some to the exclusion of others'.

The forces of hell cannot prevail against Christ's church.

Just sayin.

If you see it in ruin, it wasn't it.

With Love,

Your Brother

Nothing wrong with throwing bibles, but you can't throw it at a human being... that's just stupid.

Now peeing on a cross, that's wrong too, but only because you're not allowed to pee in public. That's one law I think everyone thinks is good, except people who like to pee in the street.

The problem with OWS is they have no juris diction. They need to study commercial law and then maybe start their own society. Everything else is just whiny self-indulgence.