Life Spotted on Venus - Russian Scientist

www.mentallandscape.com...

Here's a Russian cache of Venus pictures in case nobody else found them.

reply to post by Alienmojo


I want to believe that the photo is real probably even more than you do my friend, but it's impossible for me to know that. However, those cameras, let alone all the equipment would have burnt up miles above the surface of Venus. It's a fraud my friend. I don't like that answer either, but why even buy into a nation that lies all the time, not that we don't as well?

We need to move on to the other direction of Earth, away from the Sun to really view any true life-forms out there. That is where they are, trust me when I tell you this.

This one is for you, because I love The Thing just as you obviously do. If you want a different link, let me know because this one is tiny. Anyway, The Thing is the best Science Fiction Film ever done in my personal opinion. A few things I would have done different though, but nevertheless the best ever made. Enjoy brother.

~SheopleNation

What is the probability that a space craft will land on the surface of barren and desolate planet and will be greeted by a traveling being just casually walking by?

Originally posted by SheopleNation
reply to post by Alienmojo

 

I want to believe that the photo is real probably even more than you do my friend, but it's impossible for me to know that. However, those cameras, let alone all the equipment would have burnt up miles above the surface of Venus. It's a fraud my friend. I don't like that answer either, but why even buy into a nation that lies all the time, not that we don't as well?

It is not a fraud it is created from the 360 degree panorama set

The Venera panoramas are spherical projections. They can be remapped to perspective projections and overlayed (using Adobe Photoshop CS2) to produce views that give a better subjective impression of the Venusian surface. In the overhead view, notice the shadowing around the lander. Surface illumination is from the uniformly bright hemisphere of the sky, but the lander blocks part of the sky from nearby ground.

mentallandscape.com...

Oh and BTW your know-it-all attitude?

Don Mitchell is an American

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What I find most interesting in those images is how bright and clear it is, considering what the atmosphere is supposed to be like

It would be really nice if this probe found some life on Venus.

There is always an alternative explanation, however for objects that have curious forms and seem to move; the hot dense atmosphere of Venus is turbulent, and perhaps there are organic compounds -- but in this case, I'm thinking of a flexible sheet of carbon-based ash. I had a mental image of ashes in a fire, and the way the heat currents would make those whips flagellate around.

Likely the camera was not full video, but a series of photos as these images had to be compressed and sent up to the relay satellite circling Venus.

So a few stop motion frames -- if you had no good reference point and organic looking images appeared and then disappeared,... when you are used to the cold dead landscapes of Mars and the Moon -- I suppose nobody expects debris blown by the wind.

I'd love to seem more data and get proven wrong.

reply to post by Starchild23


rethink on what your being taught dude. What they teach in school about other planets is hogwash. It turns out that every, I mean every, planet is habitable. What we are told about Venus is that it's 1000 F and has a sulfiric acid cloud.

GUESS AGAIN! Turns out that cloud is accually a rain cloud that is holding H2O, Water! And on the surface, it's like earth, only grassland.

So of course there is life on Venus. And every other planet as well.

reply to post by JimOberg


This is true. Since if what they taught us in school is true, then Venus would be a planet that has a surface of boiling goo.

But it's not, instead it's earth-like, only with a bunch of rain clouds. This is an advantage for those that extend out their education and test it to see if it's real and not rely on some dorkhead to tell us what is true and what is false.

I havent read the full thread as of yet so please excuse my ignorance but is there any mention of floating cities from anyone yet? Dont be to hasty to rule them out though.

Thats pretty crazy i wish they had better pictures. Its definitely not something natural. It seems man made or creature made. Either way its not natural and that being its gotta be something somewhat intelligent. I wouldnt doubt if the russians faked it but something is telling me that its not a fake and that this is real.

What I find most interesting in those images is how bright and clear it is, considering what the atmosphere is supposed to be like

edit on 21-1-2012 by zorgon because: Gremlins did it :shk:

That's what I really don't get. Before tonight, I had never seen that picture with the horizon shot. I had only seen the pictures of the ground right in front of the lander. I remember watching a show a few years back about Venus. They kept going on about how hellish it is, making demonstrations about it's crushing atmosphere by putting objects like a lightbulb and a metal drinking flask in a vacuum chamber, cranking it up to several times Earth's atmospheric pressure, and showing how quickly they're crushed by it.

I'm no planetary expert. I've never been to Venus or sent a mission there. I don't know what NASA knows, what NASA doesn't know, what NASA knows but isn't telling. However, I remember that in the show I watched, it was said that, because of the extreme heat and density of the atmosphere, when standing on the surface of Venus, there would be a definite mirage effect, like what you see out in the desert or on a highway in the middle of a hot summer. This makes sense if we believe what we are told about Venus' temperatures.

So why am I not seeing any mirage-like effects, any refraction, any wavyness in those photos?

reply to post by zorgon


yeaaaa buddy! Nice comeback reply! haha, I always love when someone comes back with factual information like that.

But anyway, I mean this is sort of hard for me to get a clear picture on, i don't know anything about the scientists in question, or much about the probe sent to Venus..

I would hope that it could be real, but i don't have enough details to say so.

In regards to the pictures, the "moving" object seems to be 2 different objects, 2 different locations.

reply to post by zorgon


yeahhhhh, the atmosphere is supposed to bend light so badly, that the craft should be able to see the back of its own reflection on the horizon!

Hey, I've maintained that the Life molecule is so tenacious that it's hard to find a place where it CAN'T adapt; however, the seed of Life, sewn across the Cosmos, doesn't merely adapt. Life changes the environment to make it more hospitable to Life.

Life is a HELLUVA hi-tech bio-engineering project. What a complex molecule. The all terrain molecule.

Look at this thing called Life... It replicates, it consumes, it defecates, it SEEMS to be PROCESSING the natural resources, the raw minerals and compounds upon which Life feeds, right? Processing them for what? Just for the sake of processing? Into Infinity? Physicists HATE Infinity.

So, Life must have a GOAL, an objective within a Finite Universe.

I think I know what it is.

Life is supposed to infest every corner of the Universe, to SAMPLE the Creation. And to communicate what we learn about Creation back to the Creator. See, I don't think the Creator really knows the full extent of Creation. He made the thing, but it's just too big and complex and, to top it off, it only lasts for a split-second from his perspective, if he chooses to view it in that manner.

I mean, he can really scrutinize the thing on any level — the Creator may perceive the Universe as a LHC experiment, so our entire Universe is just a controlled collision of particles. Heh heh heh

CCP.... I like that.

But, for an extremely advanced technology, what better way to observe a CCP than to "go inside" the EVENT and watch it happen in real time?

I think that's what the Creator has done... Unleashed an exploratory germ called LIFE into this fabulous Creation to sample it, consume it, process it and then return the pertinent information to the Creator.

That makes Life sort of like God's Remote Operated Vehicles, on a ceaseless mission to consume, analyze and report for all eternity.

I've said in other posts that I think our brains are Quantum Antennas, but all living things have Quantum Antennas that facilitate communal behavior, propagation of species, and even instantaneous communications across the entire Universe.

That's the information that the Creator is gathering, get it? We experience Life, and our experience, our metabolism, our every sensation, is communicated to the Creator.

It seems John Leer was right?

Will the Real Planet Venus Please Stand Up!

Originally posted by dannotz
In regards to the pictures, the "moving" object seems to be 2 different objects, 2 different locations.

Well as i said earlier I think the photo of the OP article is a red herring, just a photo used by the press as a filler. The other one I still don't have the original source, just shown on Russian blogs linked back to the scientist's story

The Russian Space Research Institute uses Springer Link to post papers and while there are several older papers from this scientist (who by the way actually worked on the Landers) the paper we want has not yet been released.

I wrote them earlier today and am waiting to see if I get a reply

Originally posted by angellicview
Okay, don't yell at me too bad if I'm wrong, BUT... do you think it's at all possible that they didn't release any pics of the creatures they found and the pics we are looking at here are just the landing area? And that thing we are all studying is actually a mechanical - whatever. What do you think?

Yes that is what I think too News sources will use any old related picture if they don't have the one linked to the story.

Now lets have a look at your ancestors (not 'yours', but everyones )

Welcome SNOTTITE Yes that is right like SNOT a sang for mucous... or cave dlime... or primordial ooze...



This stuff was here since the dawn of time. It thrives in deep caves with no lights and volcanic vents. It doesn't like water it likes Sulphuric Acis and it excreates stuff that is about as strong as car battery acid

Snottites are colonies of single-celled extremophilic bacteria which hang from the walls and ceilings of caves and are similar to small stalactites, but have the consistency of "snot", a slang word for nasal mucus. The bacteria derive their energy from chemosynthesis of volcanic sulfur compounds including H2S and warm-water solution dripping down from above, producing sulfuric acid. Because of this, their waste products are highly acidic (approaching pH=0), with similar properties to battery acid

en.wikipedia.org...

I bet that stuff would thrive on Venus if we believe what NASA says about conditions there

So yeah if evolution is correct yawl descended from Snot

Where is John Lear when you need him?

With the Russian Venera 1 and US Mariner 2, we made Venus look like a lead melting, volcanic surface, spewing sulfuric acid into a pressurized atmosphere 90 times that of Earth. And as often the case we over did it and we wondered why nobody asked how a parachute survived a descent into 800-degree air.

"Venus possibly habitable for billions of years"

www.newscientist.com...

pds.jpl.nasa.gov...

reply to post by Ihnen


Well, I think the Venusian Reconnaissance Office has been intercepting Earth probes and feeding them a load of false information for decades. Hey, that's what I'd do if I wanted to keep the Earthlings away...make 'em think Venus is an uninhabitable hellhole.

Originally posted by ZeskoWhirligan
reply to post by Ihnen

 

Well, I think the Venusian Reconnaissance Office has been intercepting Earth probes and feeding them a load of false information for decades. Hey, that's what I'd do if I wanted to keep the Earthlings away...make 'em think Venus is an uninhabitable hellhole.

AH!!! That explains then why NASA did the flyby shooting of Venus

Seriously I don't make this stuff up

June 5, 2007: Picture this: A spaceship swoops in from the void, plunging toward a cloudy planet about the size of Earth. A laser beam lances out from the ship; it probes the planet's clouds, striving to reach the hidden surface below. Meanwhile, back on the craft's home world, scientists perch on the edge of their seats waiting to see what happens.

Sounds like science fiction? This is real, and it's happening today.

The spacecraft is MESSENGER, and the planet is Venus. On June 5, 2007, MESSENGER will fly past Venus just 338 km above the planet's surface--and it will shoot a laser into the clouds.

Venus Flyby - NASA

Good Old NASA I can always count on them for a good yarn

reply to post by JimOberg


Venus would have Methane based life.

Such life would have been detected probably by now.



Now saying it's not possible. Just saying we should have seen it by now.