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Supporting Evidence of Chemtrails & a Partial History of Aerosol and Weather modification Related Te

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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 09:24 AM
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I've recently read the H.R.2977 -- Space Preservation Act of 2001 www.chemtrails911.com...

and from what I understand it is a U.S Bill Text
107th Congress (2001-2002)
H.R.2977.IH

and does contain the word Chemtrails.

I find this very compelling evidence combined with the 150+ patents found here [www.chemtrails911.com...[/url]



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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It's Patently obvious to all of us.

Of course except for the debunkers in denial. They should be here any minute to tell you that patents don't mean anything.

They're are like cry babies who can't accept something that proves them wrong.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 09:43 AM
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Posting here in order to keep track of the thread. I've been in a few of these discussions, and very much enjoy the professional tact (twisting the proof back on you when you have already provided the proof) taken by the usual suspects to discredit and kill all chemtrail threads.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 09:46 AM
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More again, it just keeps coming www.skyhighway.com...[/url]

Can this be true



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 09:50 AM
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According to this site... section 1520 has been repealed. That seems bad.

Dot gov site



TITLE 50 - WAR AND NATIONAL DEFENSE CHAPTER 32 - CHEMICAL AND BIOLOGICAL WARFARE PROGRAM -HEAD- Sec. 1520. Repealed. -MISC1- Sec. 1520. Repealed. Pub. L. 105-85, div. A, title X, Sec. 1078(g), Nov. 18, 1997, 111 Stat. 1916, and Pub. L. 105-277, div. I, title VI, Sec. 601, Oct. 21, 1998, 112 Stat. 2681-886. Section, Pub. L. 95-79, title VIII, Sec. 808, July 30, 1977, 91 Stat. 334; Pub. L. 97-375, title II, Sec. 203(a)(1), Dec. 21, 1982, 96 Stat. 1822, related to use by the Department of Defense of human subjects for testing of chemical or biological agents, accounting to congressional committees with respect to experiments and studies, and notification of local civilian officials.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 09:56 AM
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I read REPEAL means,

The abrogation or destruction of a law by a legislative act.


A repeal is express; as when it is literally declared by a subsequent law or implied, when the new law contains provisions contrary to or irreconcilable with those of the former law.

A law may be repealed by implication, by an affirmative as well as by a negative statute, if the substance is inconsistent with the old statute.

It is a general rule that when a penal statute punishes an offence by a certain penalty, and a new statute is passed imposing a greater or a lesser penalty, for the same offence, the former statute is repealed by implication.

By the common law when a statute repeals another, and afterwards the repealing statute is itself repealed, the first is revived. In some states this rule has been changed, as in Ohio and Louisiana.When a law is repealed, it leaves all the civil rights of the parties acquired under the law unaffected.

When a penal statute is repealed or so modified as to exempt a class from its operation, violations committed before the repeal are also exempted, unless specifically reserved, or unless there have been some private right divested by it.


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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:00 AM
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Yup it contains the word "chemtrails" and also this:


(B) Such terms include exotic weapons systems such as--
(i) electronic, psychotronic, or information weapons;
(ii) chemtrails;
(iii) high altitude ultra low frequency weapons systems;
(iv) plasma, electromagnetic, sonic, or ultrasonic weapons;
(v) laser weapons systems;
(vi) strategic, theater, tactical, or extraterrestrial weapons; and
(vii) chemical, biological, environmental, climate, or tectonic weapons.


So is this also confirmation of psychotronic weapons, plasma weapons, extraterrestrial weapons, climate weapons, and tectonic weapons........

Or is this, as logic might dictate, merely a bill designed to be "future proof" attempting to ban weapons that might exist at a later date? Might as well put time weapons on the list too.

That said, I can find various patents for several different time machines.
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:01 AM
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Here is a 1977 study and proposal for the dispersmant of metal oxides into the air. .www.chemtrails911.com...

A most renowned physicist by the name of Edward Teller headed up the study. Check him out here en.wikipedia.org...

Personally after having read all of the patents, I am convinced that the spraying of our skies has more than one agenda, and weather modification being the least of them.
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:08 AM
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Personally after having read all of the patents, I am convinced that the spraying of our skies has more than one agenda, and weather modification being the least of them.


If I were to believe it was taking place, I agree 100%. The pretext would of course be geoengineering to protect us, but that would be one of those tertiary abilities. It would inevitably have something to do with a weapons platform. Communications possibly.

I remember reading about technology being developed that would allow the military to basically dust a location with tiny little sensors no bigger than dust, to give them a real time dynamic view of the battlefield. I could see this being an application of "chemtrails"

But this chemical cocktail to depopulate the planet is absurd on too many levels to waste much time on it, there are much easier and more clandestine, and thus undetectable, methods to reduce the population. Safer methods that allow "them" to actually direct this at a chosen segment of the population, instead of running the risk of killing themselves and their families.

I'm obviously a skeptic. But only in relation to if this is taking place right now. I firmly believe it's possible and would not at all be surprised if the US and other governments are doing it, as it would fit in line with history. One can't rule out the possibility, but that doesn't mean it's taking place either.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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They are clearly spraying. I see them doing it all of the time.
What are they spraying? Well I have brought some clues, as has the OP and others in other threads.
I have lived in Texas all of my life. I have painted all of my life. These persistent contrails are new, never painted them before.
Can persistent contrails happen? Sure. Can they happen in Texas when it is so dry clouds don't form and creeks and rivers dry up? Not until recently they couldn't. But, now they do. In fact, the sky rarely remains "cloud" free, no matter what the humidity is.
This is new, and there isn't one troll that can convince me otherwise.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:19 AM
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I have never entertained the idea of any biological spraying. I'm with you on the militaristic use of the technology. Having skies with reflective dust would allow for greater precision with satellites and their weaponry.

I keep telling myself to stay off of these threads.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:24 AM
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So is this also confirmation of psychotronic weapons, plasma weapons, extraterrestrial weapons, climate weapons, and tectonic weapons........ Or is this, as logic might dictate, merely a bill designed to be "future proof" attempting to ban weapons that might exist at a later date? Might as well put time weapons on the list too. That said, I can find various patents for several different time machines.


Actually ..... logic would dictate that those weapons do indeed exist.

Did you miss the whole rise of the Military Industrial Complex at least 70 years ago??

What do you think they have been doing in Area 51 and the countless other classified bases?
What do you think they have been doing up in Alaska with a giant array of antennas?

If you think they have been sitting idly by twiddling their thumbs then your mind has not thought about this enough.

We invented the nuclear bomb six plus decades ago. Have you no comprehension of progress?

Our MIC is making UFOs ...laser weapons (they test them next to me!) ...... space vehicles .... and all the other crap we have no idea about..

I'm not saying every fantasy weapon exists .....but surely more exists than meets our eyes.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:28 AM
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Just like cancer is a multibillion trillion dollar industry so is every other aspect of sickness and health.
Makes sense to me that the dollars generator medically world wide would be millions times more than the cost of spraying the sky with chemtrails to aid the control of damage and destruction.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:36 AM
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Or is this, as logic might dictate, merely a bill designed to be "future proof" attempting to ban weapons that might exist at a later date? Might as well put time weapons on the list too.


Thanks for reminding me! I need to go back and make sure they delete the temporal weapons clause or our timelab will never get funded!



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:47 AM
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Heh ...... you guys sound like naive teenage girls.

Phishy ..... instead of saying there are patents for time machines .... How about you LINK the time machine patents and we can all look WHO the inventors are....

You see ....cause it actually does MATTER WHO patents something.

If some huge defense contractor patented the "time machines" then maybe we should take a close look. But if it's some wannabe time traveler who took a physics class at a university, then we shouldn't give it much thought.

Example: Patent # 5003186


Inventors: Chang; David B. (Tustin, CA), Shih; I-Fu (Los Alamitos, CA) Assignee: Hughes Aircraft Company (Los Angeles, CA) Appl. No.: 07/513,145 Filed: April 23, 1990


You see .... that patent is owned by a huge aircraft company that does defense contracting. That matters.
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 10:55 AM
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You see ....cause it actually does MATTER WHO patents something.


It also matters what the patent is for. The one you just cited is for reducing global warming. I assume you are in favor of global warming if you have objections to this process.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 11:02 AM
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Originally posted by DJW001
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You see ....cause it actually does MATTER WHO patents something.


It also matters what the patent is for. The one you just cited is for reducing global warming. I assume you are in favor of global warming if you have objections to this process.


I never given favor either way. I simply use that as an example of "proof" for Chemtrails.....'


Since several of the methods include spraying metal oxides between 7-12 kilometers

Another method even suggests Jet Fuel as a form of releasing aerosols



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 11:06 AM
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I never given favor either way. I simply use that as an example of "proof" for Chemtrails.....'


Since several of the methods include spraying metal oxides between 7-12 kilometers

Another method even suggests Jet Fuel as a form of releasing aerosols


You have proven that there have been patents issued. Now you need to prove that any of these patents has actually been used.



posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 11:14 AM
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Well ....we are on the internet.

You and other debunkers want us to produce some physical object that is most certainly classified.

That just isn't going to happen.


....It's like UFOs .....some people will never accept their existence unless they have a physical UFO in front of them. Understandable for the most part. But there is no doubt that UFOs exist in the context of a vehicle.

Who drives them? .... that doesn't matter for this argument
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posted on Jan, 13 2012 @ 11:15 AM
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I read that weather Modification may adversely impact agricultural crops and water supplies. If the weather is changed in one state, region or county it may have severe consequences in another region, state or county. And who is going to decide the type of weather modification experimentation and who it will benefit.

I also read artificial weather modification can impact all of us by reducing water supplies, changing agricultural crop production cycles, reducing crop production, and water availability. Since most experimental weather modification programs use chemicals released into the atmosphere the public could be subjected increasingly toxic or unknown substances that could adversely impact agricultural crops and trees.



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