"Racism" is 100% natural, and is not evil. Homogenization is.

reply to post by CaticusMaximus


good post

Race (classification of humans)

While biologists sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race is often used [5] in a naive[6] or simplistic way. Among humans, race has no taxonomic significance; all people belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[7][8] Social conceptions and groupings of races vary over time, involving folk taxonomies [9] that define essential types of individuals based on perceived traits. Scientists consider biological essentialism obsolete,[10] and generally discourage racial explanations for collective differentiation in both physical and behavioral traits.[6][11]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

en.wikipedia.org...(classification_of_humans)

Most of my friends are of different races and ethnicities to me.
When they introduce me to their friends, they are also of different races.
When we hang out, we say racist stuff to each other all the time.
Sure, sometimes people can take offense - but they never let it cloud their mind with anger.
We all have a good time in the long run, and I don't think any of us feel like we should stop giving each other a hard time because we need to be racially sensative.

I know many people will argue with me,
but IMO, that is beautiful.

Originally posted by casenately
and yes, usually there is not one "race" to any geographic area anywhere on this planet. We are more diverse than we even know. It is a common fallacy to think that white is one race or even black. Hispanics (culturally, and racially)are everything from Asian Filipinos who speak perfect Castilian to Africans. same for whites, red hair, blond, black, freckles , blue eyes brown etc, these traits would have separated us before as it is they exist still today in their distinctive forms.

Very true.

I was reading up once that there is more genetic diversity amongst Black Africans than there is between Black Africans and White Europeans. Also, when it comes to Hispanics/Latinos, in a sense, they are like a race that was formed over the past three hundred some years or so.

Most Hispanics/Latinos have ancestry that includes indigenous Native, Black African, and White European. Granted, it various through out the region of Latin America (i.e.; Argentina has more of a White European (Spanish and Italian) racial heritage. Mexico has more of an indigenous Native heritage, and places like Puerto Rico, Dominican Republic, and Cuba have more of an Black African racial heritage compared to the other Latino nations.).

It's all quite very interesting.

i kinda disagree.
i was born and rasied in the inner city. in my school i was the minority.
i never really thought anything was weird being around blacks constantly. they accepted me for me and i accepted them for themsevles. there was no black or no white.we were all treated equally.
then i moved to a small town with only a small handful of blacks. except here the kids called them the "hard R"
small towns dont really get along with blacks thats why we look down upon them.
its just the way you are raised. unfortunetly in small towns people wenrt raised that way

Originally posted by casenately

Race (classification of humans)

While biologists sometimes use the concept of race to make distinctions among fuzzy sets of traits, others in the scientific community suggest that the idea of race is often used [5] in a naive[6] or simplistic way. Among humans, race has no taxonomic significance; all people belong to the same hominid subspecies, Homo sapiens sapiens.[7][8] Social conceptions and groupings of races vary over time, involving folk taxonomies [9] that define essential types of individuals based on perceived traits. Scientists consider biological essentialism obsolete,[10] and generally discourage racial explanations for collective differentiation in both physical and behavioral traits.[6][11]

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

en.wikipedia.org...(classification_of_humans)

I think that wiki definition is just stupid.

It calls me naive because I see the color of someone's skin.

If you claim that you're blind to race, you're just lying. Plain and simple.

MLK Jr. never said "don't notice someone's skin color," he just said to not judge them by it.

reply to post by otie1


well, In the USA, as I think you are form there, you had towns being built with actual physical lines to separate races. That´s where the term, "The other side of the train tracks" came from. One side would build the town, and then serve it. The other held managerial positions in local businesses and owned both sides. Effectively making one side slaves to the other. Even picking cotton after the revolution for sub human wages, if they were paid and just didn't do it for a roof over their head.

true MLK.JR had it right. don't focus on it. Treat people by the content of their minds not by the color of their skin. That is true of human history though. Race war is a new type of social separation where you have people of many races living in similar circumstances but treated differently. It's the justification for one side having it "better", lol, than the other.

reply to post by CaticusMaximus


Glad to see a thread like this, it'll rattle the liberal delicacy's but it is what it is.
Western civilisation would of been crushed like a feather had it not of had 'racialism'.
Or to put it another way, if the Ottoman Empire had waited til 20th century 'liberals' came along we'd all be be arabs and muslims by now...

I'm also not convinced by this 'one-race' bs I keep hearing about, Darwin isn't some god, he's as prone to making cluster-flips as the next man.

This tower of babel thing, imo was a good move.
It stopped mankind from absolute homogenization and instead diversified and became stronger as a result

reply to post by CaticusMaximus


Murder and stealing are "natural" for us as well. That doesn't make them right or morally acceptable. We're supposed to be a little better than that.

Originally posted by mrsoul2009
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Murder and stealing are "natural" for us as well. That doesn't make them right or morally acceptable. We're supposed to be a little better than that.

I disagree.

I don't murder or steal, nor do I find murdering and stealing natural.

reply to post by ollncasino


I disagree with your distasteful premise. Racism goes hand in hand with religious intolerance. It's the root to some of the worst problems in this world. Without them, our world would be a much more peaceful place. Excusing this behavior - as you attempt to do with pop sociology - is both misguided and offensive.

Racism is only natural to pure and utter scumbags. Racists are cretins, disgusting, horrible dinosaurs that should be buried in the ground.

reply to post by CaticusMaximus


S and F. Informative AND well written. It's kind a shame though that people actually need a thread like this to help them differentiate between rascism and accepting their own cultural identity.

As if people don't know how to pick up an encyclopedia anymore.

Homogenization is inevitable

Racism will be the undoing

Fear of others who are different is the dread of meeting ones own ego in those same others

Before moving on all humans will be white

It will be caused by generations of humans with a lack of vitamin D from sunlight

And an unwillingness to come together as a species

After that move, ones culture will be defined by ones workforce

Those of different workforces will eventually become so different that they will no longer be of the same species, the human race will evolve into many different things, and will be no more.

At this place in time, we are all the same. We all have the same choices, fears, goals, and problems, and until we learn to be truly civilized with each other, those the same and different than us, we will not mature as a species. The OP's perspective is not much more advanced than one's who was to meet another from a different race for the first time with no knowledge of that others existence. Until we become fully aware of others that are different, and fully present on the same path that we all take, then racism will not lose it's definition.

The first step is to lose the ingrained expectations and become present without prejudgement.

Mr1alphaalpha:
1. "If ANY race opens their borders to millions of other people of different races, and those races - over time - become the majority, it is not only likely not an 'accident', it is TO BE EXPECTED." As i have said NUMEROUS times the people in EVERY White country did NOT vote for this and they can not stop this. Thank you for quite rightly pointed out how this will end up with Whites being made minorities in their own homes and then eventually totally assimilated. I am sure everyone White and normal can see how this is genocide through racial replacement. Nice try at dodging the question shame you inadvertently made my point regarding genocide that much more stronger.

And as has been said, NUMEROUS TIMES, your generation didn't necessarily have a vote, because of the acts of your ancestors. Again, I don't blame this generation of whites for what was done by their previous generation, but it was their actions that caused you to be inable to scream "INJUSTICE" because this region (and others) are now melting pots. It was a vaccuum effect created by history. You are simply expressing disdain for the loss of a feeling of entitlement that you don't rightly have. The region that you're in may no longer be a primarily white area, but it is because those other cultures were ushered in by your ancestors. The more you try to shift the blame, the more you show yourself to be perpetuating the idea that 'the white man wants his land back', which - I'm sorry - but you are not entitled to. I would feel the same about any other race that was in the position that yours might be, in their own regions, but you cannot compare present situations, because they are not the same, no matter how much you want to pretend that they are.

And what question did I try to dodge, exactly?

2. I was simply presenting you with the UN Definition because you or some other anti-White tried the old "you have no idea what genocide is" line a few posts ago

I love how you aren't even aware enough to know who suggested what, but you're so very tactful in making sure you call me an 'Anti-White' (which isn't even true). I have a very important word for both you and Roderick to learn. That word is 'auto-suggestion'. This is the repeating of a term or phrase, over and over, so that it solidifies itself in your head, often times in an attempt to convince oneself that something is true - even if unconsciously. No matter how weak your arguments have been (and they are), the two of you are very careful to make sure you repeat your (albeit inaccurate) labels for people who disagree with you. It's pathetic, and shows that you are simply holding onto hateful dogma, rather than actually having a give-and-take discussion. Sad, really. And I don't think I have the stamina to go endlessly back and forth with you on it.

3. Read the definition clearly. I'll help you out here "genocide meansany of the following acts committed with intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group"

Use your brain effectively. I'll help you out there: At no point does simply asking one to clarify their interpration of 'white' constitute ANY of the listed acts. None. Not a single one. You are making stuff to prove a non-existent point. I know middle-schoolers with a better grasp of logic.

reply to post by Taupin Desciple


I am white, proud of it and always will be. I love being white and embrace my culture fully.

My partner however, is black. She is the love of my life, we have a daughter together who is mixed race. She is neither black nor white.

Now I embrace my own culture, I accept it and am proud of it. I also embrace other cultures and take great pleasure from traditions from all over the world, from all walks of life and try to take whatever I can from all the different people I meet.

None of this means that I cannot fully recognise a racist. If someone deems another racist because they're proud of their heritage and culture, then the problem is that they're a total moron, not that racism is natural.

Just read through the whole thread here, seems it was derailed almost the whole time, but entertaining at least.

In response to the OP:

What place does "multiculturalism" have in today's world? No matter where a person is located, they want to eat, sleep, have shelter, be entertained, and be loved.

Why do people insist on clinging to their past "cultures?" I was born in America; I am of Irish, Germanic, and Native American descent, as far as I know. Do I waste time trying to be Irish, Germanic, or Native? No. Why would I? We're all here, now, as Americans, working, eating, sleeping, entertaining, and loving/being loved.

To any other white men that are espousing their culture, please define for me what your culture is, exactly...

Originally posted by graphuto
Just read through the whole thread here, seems it was derailed almost the whole time, but entertaining at least.

In response to the OP:

What place does "multiculturalism" have in today's world? No matter where a person is located, they want to eat, sleep, have shelter, be entertained, and be loved.

Why do people insist on clinging to their past "cultures?" I was born in America; I am of Irish, Germanic, and Native American descent, as far as I know. Do I waste time trying to be Irish, Germanic, or Native? No. Why would I? We're all here, now, as Americans, working, eating, sleeping, entertaining, and loving/being loved.

I was about to post something similar to it. I feel the same way. I care about the hear and now.. the past is my history and that has changed and it continues to change.

Remember the past but live inthe now

reply to post by CaticusMaximus


WTF, this country is moving backwards big time. I'm black, why do we still have to ask for the right to vote? Why isn't our right to vote permanent? Natural, get the eff out of here. Natural for some I see. Please give me my permanent right to vote.