NO more Obama!! He's done more harm than good! Last 3 years a nightmare.

Originally posted by TheTimeIsNow
reply to post by Wookiep

 

holy F'N christ! You can't tell the difference really asshat--THAT'S BECAUSE THEY (REPUKES/DEMS) are on the same team that being the one YOU and I ain't on!

These moronic threads where some brain-dead right-winger of liberal bashes someone WHEN THE SHOULD BE BASHING THEM ALL!!!!!!!!!

Slow down buddy, we are in agreement for the most part, but of course I don't think I have expressed my views on that enough (in this thread) for you to call me an ass-hat just yet. Just so we're clear, I am NOT for establishment politics, and that means on the left AND right.

Obama elected 11 Goldman Sachs employees to his Administration. He renewed the Patriot Act, kept Guantanamo Bay up and running after saying that he would close it down, and signed the NDAA into law recently which had a ryder slipped in that allows the military to act as a police force on American soil and indefinitely imprison American citizens without a charge or trial. On top of those Constitutional violations, he also disregards the Constitutional process of going to war, and instead gets his authority from the UN.

He's a corrupt teleprompter reader who he doesn't follow the Constitution. Why exactly do people support this guy again?

It was impossible for Barry to live up to the hype of his campaign. They placed him on this pedestal and pretty much claimed he was the savior of the U.S. Factor in the renewal of the Patriot Act, The wallstreet bailouts, Obamacare and even the additional trillion he asked for yesterday are all simply nails in his coffin. Someone needs to stop this madman before he destroys this side of the planet.

Now everyone is going to shout "Ron Paul" And i'll admit, I like the guy, but aren't we placing him on the same pedestal as Obama ? He's no savior, just a politician....

But just think

No matter who wins in 2012 it will get worse.
Trust me...i know.

reply to post by EagleTalonZ


Great points, that guy is prone to war..it seems...

Originally posted by TupacShakur
Obama elected 11 Goldman Sachs employees to his Administration. He renewed the Patriot Act, kept Guantanamo Bay up and running after saying that he would close it down, and signed the NDAA into law recently which had a ryder slipped in that allows the military to act as a police force on American soil and indefinitely imprison American citizens without a charge or trial. On top of those Constitutional violations, he also disregards the Constitutional process of going to war, and instead gets his authority from the UN.

He's a corrupt teleprompter reader who he doesn't follow the Constitution. Why exactly do people support this guy again?

edit on 13-1-2012 by TupacShakur because: (no reason given)

Hey Tupac, glad you could join us! There is popcorn in the bowl over there ------>...Anyway, I agree with what you said 100%., that pretty much sums a lot of it up in a small paragraph.

reply to post by Wookiep


Psh, popcorn is weak. I have some blastin buffalo wing flavored pringles

That's all it takes to expose Obama as the fraud he is, one little paragraph. Or people could just look at his top campaign contributor during the election and use a little critical thinking: Goldman Sachs

reply to post by Wookiep


Well then you need to state that in threads like these that is doesn't matter left or right they are all on the same team.

Instead of saying Obama has done this or Bush jr did that you should say The Owners of this country instructed Obama to do this and ordered Bush Jr to do that

The only sad thing is who you are going to replace him with. Romney looks to get the Republican nomination, and he is just Obama-lite....and even if Ron Paul (by some miracle) becomes President, how do you turn the tide?

The system requires a reset.

Were not even close to the presidential election and i am already sick of the political threads here on ATS.

Ron paul, obama, romney. These people really mean nothing if you look at the big picture. I cant believe that people still believe that one person is responsible for the situation we find ourselves in today. The president means NOTHING! How it is not understood even with the wealth of knowledge on this site is beyond me.

Any person who is blaming one person for everything (clinton, bush or obama) has no real clue what is going on. Maybe you should do some research instead of spewing the same typical mainstream political propaganda.

reply to post by Rockpuck


" I doubt he could be worse than Obama personally, at the very least I can count on him not raising my taxes (thanks Obama, I really wanted to pay an extra $700, ass)

But you seem to be missing something.. because I have not seen anyone here say "vote for Romney"?

Just because you're against Obama, does not mean you have to support the Neocon alternative. Though, it wouldn't matter much if you did, you'd get the same damn thing."


Even though I think Romney is Nothing More than a Corporate Lap Dog , If Elected , at Least we will be Rid of the Obama Socialism that is presently Bleeding the Wealth out of America at an Ever Increasing Pace .......

Originally posted by TheTimeIsNow
reply to post by Wookiep

 

Well then you need to state that in threads like these that is doesn't matter left or right they are all on the same team.

Instead of saying Obama has done this or Bush jr did that you should say The Owners of this country instructed Obama to do this and ordered Bush Jr to do that

This thread is about our current president, his administration and the damage it's caused since he took office with all pro/against/neutral stances and comments welcome. Although, I did mention a little about how I don't dig Bush Jr either...The Federal reserve and big banks Obama panders to where also briefly mentioned. While I agree that there are elements in the background of our government pulling strings, this thread isn't really delving too far in to the conspiracy aspect of government. It is an election year, this is why the thread was placed in the "election 2012" category. I do apologize that this thread is unsatisfactory to your liking, however.

None of this compared to Romney's Fascism and gilded age motives. .


I'll take Chicago politics over Fascism any day.

reply to post by Wookiep


well thank you for your apology it is accepted :-)

But yes ANYTHING talking about elections, politics, and previous adminstrations MUST involve the Owners of this country they go HAND-IN-HAND!

reply to post by Wookiep
what's your solution to the mess we're in ?

Now brothers and sisters.... Remember he's 1/2 white to...but 100% reptilian!!
Yep thats a fact jack!!
Who and the hell can screw up a once beauitful country, which we all understand he's had help from the past presidents with all the mislead BS.. lying SOB sell outs for quite some time.
Anyway, The guy isn't from this planet and its time we all realize that he is one of the BAD aliens!!!. No # Bro!
OMG ..Newt is too...Romney is a plant and Santorthem is a war monker and wants us all to dye so he and Bill Gates, Ted Tuner can get front row parking in Yosemite...without the knuckle draggin hicks that work their asses off to support there trail park family and aren't some Sean Penn dick lick POS ...many to ad to that list..so ..so many.. Commies...never learned a dam thing in school just how to be a sell out and get citizens "Under Their Thumb"
Ya know it true... BOHCA.... Barry's up your pants ..seeking the juices of the "Sudsy Yellow Nozze"l !!!!
A riff from the great Franks Zappa.
Peace to all you Alein Transplants...the Mother ship is coming and they aren't happy with the Tom Foolery we live. THE END...soon.
Hope you enjoy my Kid From Brooklin attitude and words of endearment... As he sez..."Think About IT"
Groovy man.. Donavan is on the Radio... Here comes the hurrdy Gurdy Man seeking songs of .....??????????/

Originally posted by Levelsquare
reply to post by Wookiep

 

what's your solution to the mess we're in ?

Lol well if I presented my solution...First I would say people should first be aware of the situation we are in so that we all make the right choices as a nation to put a stop to all of the corruption, personal liberties being stripped and un-ending debt we are spiraling into. Then, I would point out that there *are* individuals who have seen these things, predicted market crashes, spoke of the big banks and federal reserve who are really behind mostly everything corrupt, including our media. They have testified to these things before congress but no-one in congress listened because they were all paid off by lobbyists. There are honest people (in govt) left in this world (and I'm not JUST talking about Ron Paul, but he just so happens to be the only honest one left on the ballot) who have been making this case for years and it's time we pay attention.

Any and all solutions are welcome, however. This is just my opinion.

reply to post by Gorman91


Could you explain to me how Obama's policies are NOT Fascist???

They seem pretty damn Fascist to me.. he even managed to appear far more Fascist than Bush, who was clearly a Fascist.

reply to post by Wookiep


Although this is supposed to be a conspiracy site and not a political blog, you're entitled to your opinion. I for one am much happier with the 3 years we've had of Obama than the destructive, pathetic 8 years we had from W. And frankly looking at the agenda of the GOP - no matter who the nominee is - I'll take my chances with the devil I know...

reply to post by Rockpuck


Bush wasn't a fascist and neither is Obama. Reason I say that is because Fascism is when government rules corporations with an iron fist and no other opinions are allowed. Under both men, corporations ruled the government and many opinions were allowed. What this has been is far more a state of corporate feudalism bound to a few laws and with no true means to route out dissent. Truly, just the great American experiment gone wrong for a period of time.

Bush was a puppet to his owners, Obama is a dictator to the men he owns, but not to the people.

It's not yet fascism.