Who built the pyramids?

i believe that aliens built the pyramid because the Egyptians kept very careful records about everything they ever did; every king they had, every war they fought, and every structure they built, but there is no evidence of them building the pyramids. What did you think?

Watching a bit too musch sg1 recently?

Originally posted by jimjenko1
i believe that aliens built the pyramid because the Egyptians kept very careful records about everything they ever did; every king they had, every war they fought, and every structure they built, but there is no evidence of them building the pyramids. What did you think?

I think you'd change your mind if you started reading some of the papers and reports by Egyptologists and archaeologists. There's a lot of "No Evidence" claims in the UFO/New Age circle, but frankly these folks were just too lazy to go out and look at any of the thousands of books and papers and articles written by people who are actually digging in and around Egypt.

Yes, there's tons of material supporting that the Egyptians built the pyramids, including receipts for limestone and other building materials, dining halls for the workers, all the previous pyramid tombs (including variations like the step pyramids, the mastabas, the bent pyramid, etc, etc (where there are paintings inside the pyramids themselves and in temples and so forth.)

None of it indicates they were built by mysterious forces or by anything other than ordinary Egyptians (there is, however, NO record of the Israelites/Jews working on the pyramids.)

This topic can be found here

www.abovetopsecret.com...

The Egyptians built the pyramids, but they did not build the sphynx all they did was carve its head from whatever the original design was into the current design.

OK OK, I confess, I built them in my spare time.

Originally posted by Byrd

Originally posted by jimjenko1
i believe that aliens built the pyramid because the Egyptians kept very careful records about everything they ever did; every king they had, every war they fought, and every structure they built, but there is no evidence of them building the pyramids. What did you think?

I think you'd change your mind if you started reading some of the papers and reports by Egyptologists and archaeologists. There's a lot of "No Evidence" claims in the UFO/New Age circle, but frankly these folks were just too lazy to go out and look at any of the thousands of books and papers and articles written by people who are actually digging in and around Egypt.

Yes, there's tons of material supporting that the Egyptians built the pyramids, including receipts for limestone and other building materials, dining halls for the workers, all the previous pyramid tombs (including variations like the step pyramids, the mastabas, the bent pyramid, etc, etc (where there are paintings inside the pyramids themselves and in temples and so forth.)

None of it indicates they were built by mysterious forces or by anything other than ordinary Egyptians (there is, however, NO record of the Israelites/Jews working on the pyramids.)

That's a lot of bull! Did the Egyptians also build the pyramids found in the Atlantic Ocean or South America or at a number of places thousands of miles away from Egypt? How come different races at different times and different places build similar structures? So what have the Egyptians got to do with them? Most of the pyramids existed BEFORE the Egyptian civilisation. So get real man. Analyse this and don't follow armchair historians and so called arheologists blindly.
And how did they lug hundreds of tons of stone blocks hundreds of miles over desert sands from the stone quarries when the wheel was'nt even invented then? Over logs?? Try it. Even dragging a monkey over sand is not easy! And how did they take them across the Nile? And there are hundreds of technical questions concerning the construction itself. SO IF THEY COULD DO IT THEN, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT NOW WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY AT OUR DISPOSAL?
Any answers??

Originally posted by jimjenko1
i believe that aliens built the pyramid because the Egyptians kept very careful records about everything they ever did; every king they had, every war they fought, and every structure they built, but there is no evidence of them building the pyramids. What did you think?

Yeah there is another post on this- and i had to stop posting on it and reading it because it was annoying me- like you i do believe they may have helped- someone has already put a link up- you should read- some of it will make you laugh!! Happy reading!

MissP

Here are some more likely expiations.
www2.worldbook.com.../ancient_egypt&page=html/mummies_howpyr.html&direct=yes
www.harvard-magazine.com...

What I find interesting is how the Great Pyramid was built on then exact dead center of all Earth's land mass's, pointing true north, true south, true east, and true west. Also, and how they used the sacred inch, which the great pyramid measures 36,522 sacred inches. Does that number sound familiar? Move the decimal over two spots. It's the exact time in a solar year.

Originally posted by mikesingh

Originally posted by Byrd

Originally posted by jimjenko1
i believe that aliens built the pyramid because the Egyptians kept very careful records about everything they ever did; every king they had, every war they fought, and every structure they built, but there is no evidence of them building the pyramids. What did you think?

I think you'd change your mind if you started reading some of the papers and reports by Egyptologists and archaeologists. There's a lot of "No Evidence" claims in the UFO/New Age circle, but frankly these folks were just too lazy to go out and look at any of the thousands of books and papers and articles written by people who are actually digging in and around Egypt.

Yes, there's tons of material supporting that the Egyptians built the pyramids, including receipts for limestone and other building materials, dining halls for the workers, all the previous pyramid tombs (including variations like the step pyramids, the mastabas, the bent pyramid, etc, etc (where there are paintings inside the pyramids themselves and in temples and so forth.)

None of it indicates they were built by mysterious forces or by anything other than ordinary Egyptians (there is, however, NO record of the Israelites/Jews working on the pyramids.)

That's a lot of bull! Did the Egyptians also build the pyramids found in the Atlantic Ocean or South America or at a number of places thousands of miles away from Egypt? How come different races at different times and different places build similar structures? So what have the Egyptians got to do with them? Most of the pyramids existed BEFORE the Egyptian civilisation. So get real man. Analyse this and don't follow armchair historians and so called arheologists blindly.
And how did they lug hundreds of tons of stone blocks hundreds of miles over desert sands from the stone quarries when the wheel was'nt even invented then? Over logs?? Try it. Even dragging a monkey over sand is not easy! And how did they take them across the Nile? And there are hundreds of technical questions concerning the construction itself. SO IF THEY COULD DO IT THEN, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT NOW WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY AT OUR DISPOSAL?
Any answers??

Hundreds of years by thousands of Egyptologists and archaeologists have already clearly answered your lame attempt to disprove the facts. Check a few links to show you just how modern man could acheive such feats.

www.peter-thomson.co.uk...

www.theforgottentechnology.com...

To answer your question about the similiar structures around the word, the pyramid shape is a very logical structure. Take a handful of sand and pour it out on the ground. What structure is created? The reason so many other cultures used this shape is due to it's stability and easiness to build. Sorry, but it's a rather simple explaination.

Bottom line is, the burdon of proof is on people like you to do the work and prove the pyramids were not built by man. Just because you can't comprehend how they were built (which shouldn't be the case because a few google searches will show you several ways they could have been built) and think they are too "big" for the feeble race of man to build, doesn't mean that it's still not possible. Do the work my good man...you'll enjoy what you find!

Originally posted by mikesingh
That's a lot of bull! Did the Egyptians also build the pyramids found in the Atlantic Ocean

There aren't any pyramids there.

or South America or at a number of places thousands of miles away from Egypt?

They were built by the people who lived there.

How come different races at different times and different places build similar structures?

Same reason we build square-ish houses. There's only a certain number of stable structures possible with certain types of materials.

So what have the Egyptians got to do with them? Most of the pyramids existed BEFORE the Egyptian civilisation.

Actually, no. And furthermore, we see the pyramid building civilizations generally building the same "pre-pyramid" structures -- stepped slpes and so forth.

So get real man. Analyse this and don't follow armchair historians and so called arheologists blindly.

So, in other words, I should take the word of people who "channeled" the information rather than the word of people who can READ the writings on the walls of the temples and so forth? Are you saying that I should also ignore all that I know (I can read hieroglyphics) and that the Rosetta Stone and other tanslation material is dead wrong?

If so, please give me some evidence why I should believe that several hundreds of years of measuring and digging and translating is just all nonsense and inferior to 20 minutes of "channeled information."

And how did they lug hundreds of tons of stone blocks hundreds of miles over desert sands from the stone quarries when the wheel was'nt even invented then?

No offense, but do you actually know anything about the site and the technology of the times?

They brought the stones by boat. We have the remains of the boats. We have pictures of the boats that they drew. On the captions of the boats, it talks about bringing stone and other material up and down the Nile.

Nor was the pyramid complex (there are at least NINE pyramids there... not just one) and temple complex just something out in the middle of the sand. This was a huge temple complex, with big stone-paved avenues and ramps.

Over logs?? Try it. Even dragging a monkey over sand is not easy!

You are apparently unfamiliar with all the pictures on temple walls and in other places, drawn by the Egyptians, with heiroglyphics that serve as captions, showing them using carts and the pharoahs driving around in chariots with wheels.

And how did they take them across the Nile?

Boats. We have lots of scenes of boat builders, and we know their specialty names for different types of boats, including the ceremonial boats of the gods which carried heavy statues and so forth in the religious festivals.

And there are hundreds of technical questions concerning the construction itself.

...which are tossed out by people who wouldn't know a djed from a djelly-belly. This sort of logic works if you don't know anything about Egypt and someone tells you that you should be contemptuous of the academics and not bother to read anything written on them... or visit the place. Because if you visited, you'd find out that the "information channelers" were feeding you disinformaiton.

SO IF THEY COULD DO IT THEN, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT NOW WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY AT OUR DISPOSAL?

Apparently you don't work around machinery much? We certainly can do it, and easily. Heck, just look at the pyramid hotel in Las Vegas which is much larger and built out of some heavier materials.

There's some great Egyptology sites around. You might like to look at what some of the real science says... it's a LOT more interesting than the junk pseudoscience.

[edit on 21-9-2004 by Byrd]

Originally posted by livenlearn
What I find interesting is how the Great Pyramid was built on then exact dead center of all Earth's land mass's

Actually, it wasn't.... err... isn't.

pointing true north, true south, true east, and true west.

This was common in all ancient people, and was simple to do. Generally it's the sacred structures which will be aligned like this.

Also, and how they used the sacred inch, which the great pyramid measures 36,522 sacred inches

Actually, they didn't. They used the egyptian cubit and the measurements are quite different in that and don't correlate to inches. Someone took the measurements of the Great Pyramid and divided it by 365.22 to come up with this artificial standard, the "pyramid inch." It's like taking my height (63") and dividing that by 365.22 and announcing to everyone that the "Sacred Inch" is now 0.1697 inches and relating 1697 to a historical or cosmological event (I'm too lazy to do that right now, but I could if I look for it.)

So there's nothing miraculous about it. It's just a bit of dividing by modern measurements to give a measurement that the ancient Egyptians would laugh at.

Byrd, thanks for the excellent rebutal!!! I lack the depth of knowledge you have, but completely agree with the information laid out so plainly!

why are we so arrogant to believe egyptians couldn't do this ? there was no middle class , so the ruler had the means to get this done.
all they needed was time and materials...

the colossus of rhodes may even be a greater achievement, imo.....

Quote: "SO IF THEY COULD DO IT THEN, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT NOW WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY AT OUR DISPOSAL?"

I asked the same question too - not so long ago. All I got was
Double Speak & Bunk in Return. OK I am Not saying that E.T. Built the Pyramids. I am saying Big Up on the Egyptians because it is still quite Marvelous & Amazing acomplishment. Seriously however - lets say we as "Modern Man" tried to duplicate the Great Pyramid today - Do you have any possible idea hove much Money it would cost? How much Time & Labor would be needed. How many Engineers it would take? Is it even possible? We so called "Modern Men" of differing Nationalities don't even get along well enough to be able to work together on such a huge project as this!!!

I recently read that the name of the city Cairo in Egypt is actually not an Egyptian name but rather ancient Sumerian. And it means "the planet Mars" in Sumerian. Interesting considering some think there is a conncetion between the Sphynx and the face on Mars as well as the pyramids in Egypt and the "apparent" pyramids on Mars.

Originally posted by Seraphim_Serpente
Quote: "SO IF THEY COULD DO IT THEN, WHY CAN'T WE DO IT NOW WITH ALL THE TECHNOLOGY AT OUR DISPOSAL?"

I asked the same question too - not so long ago. All I got was
Double Speak & Bunk in Return. OK I am Not saying that E.T. Built the Pyramids. I am saying Big Up on the Egyptians because it is still quite Marvelous & Amazing acomplishment. Seriously however - lets say we as "Modern Man" tried to duplicate the Great Pyramid today - Do you have any possible idea hove much Money it would cost? How much Time & Labor would be needed. How many Engineers it would take? Is it even possible? We so called "Modern Men" of differing Nationalities don't even get along well enough to be able to work together on such a huge project as this!!!

Again, check out these two sights...they aren't the end all to the big question, but they offer a practical possibility of how they were done, and how long it would have taken.

www.peter-thomson.co.uk...

www.theforgottentechnology.com...

Quote: "I recently read that the name of the city Cairo in Egypt is actually not an Egyptian name but rather ancient Sumerian. And it means "the planet Mars" in Sumerian. Interesting considering some think there is a connection between the Sphinx and the face on Mars as well as the pyramids in Egypt and the "apparent" pyramids on Mars."

Yes that point is often over looked - the Egyptians/Khemites got a lot of their Knowledge from the OLDER Sumerian Civilization!!!

The "Sphinx " was already there - only it was a big LION - they Simply removed the Lions Head (Or Maybe it was Destroyed & the Egyptians fixed it up) & placed the head of a Pharaoh right on there!

If you start examining the RELIGIONS of the Ancient Egyptians & Sumerians (and Babylonians while you are at it) you will see all sorts of Interesting Connections - the Lion was a Venerated Animal. The War God Horus represented Mars. They all were highly reverent to the Stars & Astrology. They all mention "Sirius" as being important!! Maybe that is were the E.T.s that shared their Knowledge & Wisdom (& possibly
Gene Pool) came from!!!!


[edit on 21-9-2004 by Seraphim_Serpente]

Originally posted by Byrd

Originally posted by livenlearn
What I find interesting is how the Great Pyramid was built on then exact dead center of all Earth's land mass's

Actually, it wasn't.... err... isn't.

pointing true north, true south, true east, and true west.

This was common in all ancient people, and was simple to do. Generally it's the sacred structures which will be aligned like this.

Also, and how they used the sacred inch, which the great pyramid measures 36,522 sacred inches

Jeez, good example of why you can't believe everything you read I guess.
Thanks for the info.
Actually, they didn't. They used the egyptian cubit and the measurements are quite different in that and don't correlate to inches. Someone took the measurements of the Great Pyramid and divided it by 365.22 to come up with this artificial standard, the "pyramid inch." It's like taking my height (63") and dividing that by 365.22 and announcing to everyone that the "Sacred Inch" is now 0.1697 inches and relating 1697 to a historical or cosmological event (I'm too lazy to do that right now, but I could if I look for it.)

So there's nothing miraculous about it. It's just a bit of dividing by modern measurements to give a measurement that the ancient Egyptians would laugh at.