Russia 'worried' over Iran's nuclear ambitions

Um... what?!

Did Russia just switch sides?

Originally posted by FOXMULDER147
Um... what?!

Did Russia just switch sides?

I dont think so. I would use the phrase distancing themselves though.

Russia has a Rothschild controlled central bank, Russia never truly opposes the U.S. in the UN.. even when Russia publicly speak out against the US/Europe/Nato, they don't use their voting power to block the real important things.

Russia is very much a team player in the NWO.

This is just 'deniability' for Russia - they have helped Iran every step of the way on their weapons program and in all likelyhood have already funneled them 'black market' nukes to boot.

reply to post by Xcathdra


Sure they had WMD...even if they weren't the ones that the US claimed they did as I sourced. I am sure if China invaded the US under false pretenses I would bet anything they would find many illegal items as well. Just because they found WMD, doesn't mean that is what they were looking for, they claimed Iraq was making nukes...the same old song and dance that they are doing now in Iran. There is no definitive proof.

Your kind of implying that the U.S. has tried to do something to avoid conflict. If you look through the propaganda you can see that the U.S. gets what it wants. The U.S. wants to start with Iran, and they will. Simple as that. Blame it on who you want, but they have never invaded a country. The history of the U.S.? Much different.

reply to post by Xcathdra


Your last source in your opening post is not about russia worrying about Iran:

Russia said on Wednesday that it was “deeply concerned” by Israel’s decision to construct hundreds of new homes in east Jerusalem in a move to punish the Palestinians for joining UNESCO.

Edit: second last source:

It added, however, that Iran had notified the International Atomic Energy Agency in due time of the launch of the bunker facility. The ministry says Russia was urging all parties involved in the Iranian nuclear standoff to avoid "ill-considered and abrupt moves," which could undermine prospects for talks with Iran.

Edit 2: the second source posted at the bottom: (sorry, going from down to up )

The underground Fordow plant had been revealed two years ago and documented, he said. The 20-percent enriched uranium it was to produce would be used for “peaceful and humanitarian” purposes, namely isotopes for cancer treatment, he said.
An official at the IAEA, the U.N. nuclear watchdog, said inspectors were expected to visit Iran “soon” to discuss their worries about possible military aspects to its nuclear program.
Both Soltanieh and the IAEA stressed the U.N. nuclear watchdog had 24-hour cameras there and inspectors to keep it under watch. That seemed unlikely to reassure the United States, though, or its chief Middle East ally, Israel, analysts said.

reply to post by superman2012


Sorry the last link was suppose to direct Here

The notification is not the issue either. Its the enrichment process, which is the cruxt of the entire issue. Russia is concerned about the enrihment, as the articles show. Russia is not concerned with the underground facility, but the enrichment.

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The only thing that Russia is worried about regarding the enrichment, was that they weren't notified.

Plus, you know, the last two sentences in the above quote are pretty interesting as well.

This actually makes me a little happy, because I'd rather side with the ruskies in the next world war than fight them.

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If I were Russia I would start to wonder what else we arent being told about. If Russia is going to stand by their side im sure they are going to want to be sure its for the right reasons and not because Iran handed Russia a big old bouquet of Ooopsy daisies after the fact.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
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If I were Russia I would start to wonder what else we arent being told about. If Russia is going to stand by their side im sure they are going to want to be sure its for the right reasons and not because Iran handed Russia a big old bouquet of Ooopsy daisies after the fact.

The same could be said for the US. They had better make damn sure that Iran is making nuclear bombs before they invade (for the right reasons). Not like the smoke they blew up everyone's butt for the invasion and bombing of Iraq.

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The concern is ability, not production. This has been stated time and time again.

Originally posted by Xcathdra
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The concern is ability, not production. This has been stated time and time again.

There is no concern about their ability to produce a nuclear weapon. I have stated this before. They were upset that they were not informed...meaning, if they were informed, they wouldn't be upset. Who knows anyways? Maybe they did know and decided to let Iran have this secret?

Plus from this post.

Some simple FYI's:

1)Nuclear Capability vs Nuclear Weapons Programs:

Let's replace Iran with Canada, since Canada is already at this 'feared' point.

Canada has no official nuclear weapons program, yet we are nuclear capable. Why?

Because we have the knowledge, expertise, and facilities to put up a nuclear weapon inside of a month.

We are nuclear 'capable', but we have yet to use that capability for weapons.

Any Americans afraid of this? Didn't think so. Why so afraid of Iran? Canada is just as likely to get an insane leader in power long enough to launch one...approx 1 month. Some would even say that we have this leader now...

2) Underground Enrichment Facilities.

Um...I know of 3 inside of this Canadian city. 2 are operated and ran by the University, one by a medical research company. All are monitored by Canadian Forces. Hmm, not very different than what is defined in Iran.

Any Americans afraid? Didn't think so.

They are put underground for security and safety reasons. You can negate about 80% of your security and safety needs by having good old concrete and soil walls.

It would be more idiotic to have it above ground.

All of the above is from peck420.

No doubt Iran has nuclear weapons, but not from making them.

Why would they go to all that expense when they can just pick up the phone and call one of their pals over at CIA headquarters and buy a bunch at rock bottom bargain prices ?!

Crying about Iran enriching uranium to 19.8% (LEU) ?

Pfft.
Smoke and mirrors folks, smoke and mirrors.

Originally posted by superman2012

Originally posted by Xcathdra
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The concern is ability, not production. This has been stated time and time again.

There is no concern about their ability to produce a nuclear weapon. I have stated this before. They were upset that they were not informed...meaning, if they were informed, they wouldn't be upset. Who knows anyways? Maybe they did know and decided to let Iran have this secret?

Im not referring to Russia. I am referring to the overall situation.

As for the Canada nuke question -

I trust Canadian leadership more than I do Iranian leadership.

Canada hasnt stated time and again they want to wipe Israel off the map.
The Candian government doesnt base its foreign policy off of religious doctrine, and the government in Canada is accountable to the people, where as in Iran its not. Canada doesnt view its military as expendable and require them to be ready to die for a religious cause.

need I go on?

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Originally posted by superman2012

Originally posted by Xcathdra
reply to post by superman2012

 

The concern is ability, not production. This has been stated time and time again.

There is no concern about their ability to produce a nuclear weapon. I have stated this before. They were upset that they were not informed...meaning, if they were informed, they wouldn't be upset. Who knows anyways? Maybe they did know and decided to let Iran have this secret?

Im not referring to Russia. I am referring to the overall situation.

As for the Canada nuke question -

I trust Canadian leadership more than I do Iranian leadership.

Canada hasnt stated time and again they want to wipe Israel off the map.
The Candian government doesnt base its foreign policy off of religious doctrine, and the government in Canada is accountable to the people, where as in Iran its not. Canada doesnt view its military as expendable and require them to be ready to die for a religious cause.

need I go on?

edit on 12-1-2012 by Xcathdra because: (no reason given)

Please go on. Iran hasn't stated either that they want to wipe Israel off the map, you were involved in that thread and know better now. The Canadian government does not base its foreign policy off of religious doctrine, but, then if you read their foreign policy, neither does Iran. Please tell me how the government in Canada is accountable to the people? If they screw up royally, which Harper does, they won't get re-elected, only to let the next bozo in. Please source where the government was accountable to the people. Canada doesn't view its military as expendable!? Why did they send them to Afghanistan?

Edit: This quote:

Canada hasnt stated time and again they want to wipe Israel off the map.

Even if they had stated this, why does the US have to go and protect them when they have stated they don't want or need the US's help? Because the US treats its soldiers as expendables.

"We (the Russian federation) are worried publicly, and privately applaud and encourage your strong stance against the west and Israel." :up

From the ashes of destruction comes an opportunity to build a new communist empire.

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Sorry, was that an actual source or your opinion? Thanks.