Israeli bill would prohibit Nazi comparisons

Israeli bill would prohibit Nazi comparisons

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Draft legislation in Israel would make it a crime in the country to use the word "Nazi" or symbols of the Holocaust for purposes other than teaching.

There will be a preliminary hearing in parliament on Wednesday for the bill, which would impose penalties of up to six months in jail and a $25,000 fine.

The move comes a week after ultra-Orthodox Jews dressed in concentration camp uniforms to protest against alleged incitement against them.

The incident sparked outrage in Israel.

The national Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial denounced the use of Nazi imagery as "disgraceful", and se

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"It would also ban all photographs, drawings, sculptures depicting a swastika or anything else that makes a definitive reference to Nazism.

"Unfortunately we have been witness in recent years to the cynical exploitation of Nazi symbols and phraseology, which is offensive to Holocaust survivors, their families, and many others among the Jewish people," said the bill's sponsor, Uri Ariel of the National Union party.
"The law constitutes an appropriate warning, and will anchor in law a fitting punishment for the despicable use," he added."

as both an american and a jew how can one not see the trampling of free speech displayed here?
what shreds of the forth amendment we still have generally allows nazi's to protest.
on the other hand i can kinda' sorta' maybe almost see their point.
everybody has things they find offensive.

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Why are they all so sensitive about the Nazis?

It was more than just jews that died or were horribly tortured in the second world war.

aww.. sounds like der fuhrer is upset people speak the truth about israel...
let them make all the laws they want it wont change the truth...

What do many people say about Israel?
The only democracy in the middle east?

Extremist sects have sought to ban the mixing of sexes on buses, pavements and other public spaces. Members of one sect jeered and spat at girls walking to school, saying they were dressed immodestly.

Sounds like they want to be like Saudi Arabia
Which is not surprising because let's be honest.... Jews and Muslims are almost the same
Come on, very little difference in beliefs

Originally posted by rubbertramp

Israeli bill would prohibit Nazi comparisons

Zionism is Nazism. There.

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"It would also ban all photographs, drawings, sculptures depicting a swastika

lol will they be closing down ancient synagogues, lots of swastikas there

historyhuntersinternational.org...

If I'm understanding what this is about correctly, this is not a speech issue. Sounds like steps to stop threats and harassment to me.

Our Constitution has nothing to do with Israel or Israels laws. I have no idea what it must be like being surrounded and grossly outnumbered by people who wish to wipe you off the planet. On top of that to have the President of the country that is likely the only thing keeping them at bay, acting as if he is antisemitic.

In light of those facts this law would make perfect sense. The condition the Jews in Israel find themselves in is unique to them and what might seem wrong here, could well make sense there.

What I find far more appalling, to the point of sickening is the level of hate that all people of faith are being subjected to by a tiny minority of sick haters all over the world.

At some point you have to separate speech from harassment and hate speech. I can't judge them on this one. Living in a giant bullseye with everyone from radical Progressives in the West to radical Islam in the Middle East having you in their crosshairs must be mental torture. At any moment a random rocket supplied by Iran and delivered by Terrorists acting on behalf of Iran can land in their neighborhood. How must that feel?

Free Speech is one thing, but carrying it to the point it protects acts of hate is another altogether.

Imagine if you will a Black family moves in next to a White one that are into the KKK. They start hanging Confederate Flags in their window, cleaning their guns on their porch while glaring at their children as they walk by and put up a burnt wooden cross on the property line. Does that constitute a reasonable use of the Right to Free Speech? Would the Black family have the Right to live free of mental bullying in the name of Free Speech?

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This is just the way the israeli gumment works.
First, they came for the Palestinians, but I was not a Palestinian so I said nothing.
Nazi V2.0

Originally posted by _BoneZ_
Search = www.abovetopsecret.com...

dammit, i did. different headline didn't show up.
is the search functioning?
frustrating, i always search the headline first.

Originally posted by Garfee
Why are they all so sensitive about the Nazis?

It was more than just jews that died or were horribly tortured in the second world war.

So let those group so whatever they choose to about it too.

Like Germany for example - it bans the swastika & SS & stuff too.....after all plenty of Germans were killed by the Nazi's....

How far does "Israeli" legislation reach throughout the world? (the legal way, not the black-op way)

Or does "Israel" have a branch in East Bromwich?

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Garfee
Why are they all so sensitive about the Nazis?

It was more than just jews that died or were horribly tortured in the second world war.

So let those group so whatever they choose to about it too.

Like Germany for example - it bans the swastika & SS & stuff too.....after all plenty of Germans were killed by the Nazi's....

The only other group that does is the country that actually purpotrated the crime.

Zionists are NOT Z's

I can see the point of doing this history and all but it seems a little ignorant to me the swastika is an ancient symbol is it not? what about the people who don't see scary nazi's when the see the swastika

does this mean things like the Camaro SS will be forever known as just camaro??

Can I outlaw the cross or the star of David, what about all moon crescent's

all seems a bit silly to me

Originally posted by Garfee

Originally posted by Aloysius the Gaul

Originally posted by Garfee
Why are they all so sensitive about the Nazis?

It was more than just jews that died or were horribly tortured in the second world war.

So let those group so whatever they choose to about it too.

Like Germany for example - it bans the swastika & SS & stuff too.....after all plenty of Germans were killed by the Nazi's....

The only other group that does is the country that actually purpotrated the crime.

according to wiki the swastika is also banned in Poland (along with other Nazi regalia) and Hungary (which bans public display of symbols of "totalitarian regimes" including the hammer and sickle, but allows their use for academic or artistic reasons), & in Brazil it is banned if for political purposes

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These are some of the people who prompted the outcry ...... fellow Jews.





This hasn`t been brought about by Hamas, Hezbollah or Iran ......... rather by the Ultra Orthodox Jewish Community.

The move comes a week after ultra-Orthodox Jews dressed in concentration camp uniforms to protest against alleged incitement against them. The incident sparked outrage in Israel. The national Yad Vashem Holocaust memorial denounced the use of Nazi imagery as "disgraceful", and several survivors' groups condemned it.

On 31 December, thousands of ultra-Orthodox Jews gathered in Jerusalem's Mea She'arim district to protest against what they said was a nationwide campaign by the secular media against their community.

They wore yellow Stars of David on their clothes bearing the word "Jude" (German for "Jew"), and dressed their children in striped black-and-white uniforms associated with concentration camps. Israeli police were also called "Nazis".

BBC News

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I think you're missing my point which is that israel is still milking what happened to jews in WW2 while everyone else who was affected has moved on.

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orthodox Jews who oppose Zionism and the state of Israel...

there are many interesting pictures of these guys protesting against Israel...