51% See Occupy Wall Street Protesters As Public Nuisance

www.huffingtonpost.com...

this shows you the 51% that doesnt support it.. .New Yorkers NEAR the event... thought it was a good representation of what I had to go through everyday when they were occupying outside my place

reply to post by Kali74


I've read it, and I'll believe it when I see it.
If they pull it off, and keep the left wing nut jobs out of it, then I have no problem supporting them.
Oh, and also I'll be curious to see if they remove the freeloader clauses or not.
Proof is in the pudding as they say.

reply to post by haarvik


I linked a lot of info there. You read hella fast.

reply to post by haarvik


as we've seen before OWS is just chatter..

they like to loiter and talk about what they are going to do.. but do NOTHING to act on it...

or actually protest something cohesive..

its over though.. which I'm happy for

reply to post by haarvik


Added this in as you were replying and I'll leave it at this in this thread anyway.

In the end maybe we won't have accomplished much (I think we will) but at the very least we have the courage to try and refuse to accept this fascist tyrannical corporatocracy America is becoming/has become.

Hehehe one last thing. Maybe this makes more sense to some of you?

reply to post by Kali74


Oh don't get me wrong, I fully support anyone exercising their right to free assembly and freedom of speech. This, however, does not mean I have to agree with the message or movement. There is a difference. I am of the mind that you get what you work for. You get out of life what you put into it. I am living proof. I could have easily allowed myself to fall into the whole nanny state of taking handouts from the government, but I chose to work hard and sacrifice to get ahead. The fact that anyone wants to stifle that or expects a handout really ticks me off.

I agree with stopping corporate raping of our natural resources. However, I do not support stopping a private citizen from using those resources, even at the expense of a wild animal. Our survival takes precedence over any animal or resource, PERIOD! I watch these tree huggers bashing the oil industry (I hate them btw), yet drive cars and buy products made with oil. A little bit of hypocracy if you ask me.

Have you taken time to watch my video?



Be careful of the road you go down, it may lead to things you don't want.

Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by Kali74

 

Oh don't get me wrong, I fully support anyone exercising their right to free assembly and freedom of speech. This, however, does not mean I have to agree with the message or movement. There is a difference. I am of the mind that you get what you work for. You get out of life what you put into it. I am living proof. I could have easily allowed myself to fall into the whole nanny state of taking handouts from the government, but I chose to work hard and sacrifice to get ahead. The fact that anyone wants to stifle that or expects a handout really ticks me off.

I agree with stopping corporate raping of our natural resources. However, I do not support stopping a private citizen from using those resources, even at the expense of a wild animal. Our survival takes precedence over any animal or resource, PERIOD! I watch these tree huggers bashing the oil industry (I hate them btw), yet drive cars and buy products made with oil. A little bit of hypocracy if you ask me.

Perhaps it costs a bit.more to create a free.energy motor than some of us can afford. You say our survival is more important than 'some wild animal' we are wild animals and we are slowly decreasing our ability to survive through the destruction of ecosystems that private corporations pay no heed to. They do however pay vasts.sum to ensure our governments look the other way as well. In this respect it is a problem within gov't AND wall st ad they are linked, almost one and the same, as kali stated a corprotacracy

Have you taken time to watch my video?

Be careful of the road you go down, it may lead to things you don't want.

Sorry for the double post but I just wanted to apologize for my sloppy.error filled posts, its really hard to make.this work on a 3" screen

reply to post by haarvik


Some of those I agree with some I don't. Balance is a key thing and we are way off it. If you think Occupiers don't see the threat we are facing or haven't seen the same signs you have, we do. Nazi's claimed to be socialist but cleary were not so it's important not to be scared by labels, pay attention to what we say and do...that is if you really want to know. If you don't that's fine but don't expect us not to defend ourselves against hatefulness and misconceptions.

reply to post by Kali74


My point in that was the quote "The Road To Hell Is Paved With Good Intentions".
A lot of the statements that you have linked to are directly related to the Nazi party and what they stood for.
If you are not careful in your demands, you may get more than you bargained for, and yes, it could turn into hell.

Yes, let's call the only group voicing their outrage about the public having to cover for the mistakes of businesses a "nuisance"...makes perfect sense. What shall we call those 51% who obviously simply prefer to roll over and live with the FACT that they're being screwed over than to ask for change and to voice their opinion?

Great campaign at making it seem as if "free speech" is now a "nuisance"

Occupy Fort Worth is not a nuisance, as it is only two or three people sitting in lawn chairs doing nothing and saying nothing. Then they leave and come back the next day. I think they have a sign, but I don't remember what it says.

reply to post by haarvik


Anything can be evil in the hands of evil. That's why we need to protect our Constitution. I wish I were better with words or expressing myself but I'm not so I'll try my best.

A good example of corruption in our government is that when big banks and mortgage holders began to fail from their own poor practices, we the tax payers, at the direction of our Wall St. bought government, bailed them out. Meanwhile these mortgage holders continued the same practices that got them in trouble and some of those practices were illegal or harmful to borrowers, such as robo signing or securitizing and passing mortgages through 10 different banks and changing the fees everytime and at time when more jobs were being shipped overseas and people becoming jobless because of it.

People who owned the majority of their mortgage were never given a chance to renegotiate or given a 6 month hold to find a new job. We the people were sold out while many of the banks and companies used their bailout money to pay their execs multi-million dollar bonuses. Now, no one is saying hey give me some money or buy me house, we are saying wait...give people a chance to find another job without penalties. We are saying hey is this foreclosure legal? Don't put families on the street while they wait for a day in court. The government shafted us plain and simple, took our money and gave it to the people who ship our jobs out, don't want to pay us fairly, gamble with our retirement funds, and kick us out of our homes.

That's just the tip of the iceburg.

reply to post by haarvik


Actions speak louder than words. Naxi germany is a perfect example. They spoke about being for the peopl but in the end the third reich led to the.deaths of millions. As far as ive seen there have.been no occupiers advocatimg for the indefinite detention of any unarmed non combatatant with risk of death. We are not national socialists or regular socilaists we are advocates of positive sustainable change.

reply to post by Kali74


And thanks to those people being against the Dodd-Frank act, nothing has changed...they are STILL taking massive risks that are STILL fully guaranteed by US citizens. BofA alone made taxpayers liable for $75 TILLION (not a typo) of their risky European derivatives investments...and they did so LEGALLY!

Check who opposed Dodd-Frank and you know who's bought by Wall Street. A ton of Democrats are bought, and pretty much all of the GOP are bought judging from the way they voted on that bill.

reply to post by MrXYZ


I know, it makes me ill.

These are the kinds of things we talk about and protest in Occupy. Since September we teach and learn and spread all the info we can about the corruption and then we take it to the streets. Now we take it to DC (well not me I cant go, gotta work lol) and join the Occupations there and our voice grows, all the while we still talk and expose and try to come up with solutions.

reply to post by Kali74


What I am referring to is the whole free education and free healthcare demand.
k-12 schooling is guaranteed, but not free. Our taxes pay for it.
Beyond that should not be free. That is a choice you make. But, that does not mean that an institution of higher learning should be charging $40k a year for that education. That is purely criminal. Our healthcare costs have gone up due to the FDA and their racketeering with the insurance industry and big pharma. Stop allowing chemicals in our food and the health of Americans will improve tremendously. Stop allowing $3 pills to be sold for $250. Allow holistic treatments of diseases. These are the things that put healthcare in reach for the majority of Americans. Doctors still need to get paid, and I for one am not willing to pay for someone else's lack of caring for their own health.

The whole bank bailout crap was and is wrong. But camping out in front of wall st. does nothing to change it. The focus must be on DC. The focus has to be on the corruption at the government level, otherwise you are just pissing in the wind. When you target DC you have to have leaders who can convey the message and be able to court those in power who are open to listening. They are not going to attend your feel good GA. By the same token, they are not going to sit and listen to a giant list of demands either. Two or three talking points max.

You have to treat this like eating an elephant...one bite at a time. 15 or 20 talking points are not going to get you anywhere.

Originally posted by Kali74
reply to post by MrXYZ

 

I know, it makes me ill.

These are the kinds of things we talk about and protest in Occupy. Since September we teach and learn and spread all the info we can about the corruption and then we take it to the streets. Now we take it to DC (well not me I cant go, gotta work lol) and join the Occupations there and our voice grows, all the while we still talk and expose and try to come up with solutions.

I'll applaud everyone making a stand and voicing their outrage!

The problem I see is that the entire system is now so corrupt, it won't be easy to fix. And even worse, thank to the MSM the people have now been so dumbed down, they don't even realize what's going on. That's why it's important that Occupy continues to spread the word.

I mean, they're all outraged about the deficit, or some Halloween party at the White House...when in reality, those amounts are NOTHING compared to how much Wall Street and big business is stealing from the taxpayer. Like I said, BofA's European derivatives investments alone are FIVE TIMES the US deficit...and every single American is liable for it!!! THAT's what people should be worried about. Sadly, the news are completely ignoring the issue...mostly because they are owned by the very same giant conglomerates that benefit from stealking taxpayer money.

Right now, informing the people is the best thing to do...because it really seems a ton of people have no clue about the political and economic reality. Really quite sad

reply to post by haarvik


As far as free education goes, I know some are asking for that, or for school debt forgiveness...I think a compromise can be made.
I do 100% believe that either, the Health Care system including the FDA and Big Pharma needs a major overhaul or it needs to be free health care/low cost health care. I'm fully aware that means taxes paying for it but we as a people can demand that it make sense and is cost effective and not a get rich quick scheme for the 1%.