Reasons the King James Bible is Superior to the "Originals"

Originally posted by Magnificient
reply to post by gimpy327

 

Very wrong in one respect. Christ is the god of the Old Testament as well as the New Testament. Christ is a god of war. What you read in the New Testament is the "still, soft voice." He won't be still and soft when he returns.

There is no way to say GImpy is wrong. I agree with him.
Jesus a God of War? That's disturbing . Jesus riding in from the sky on a white
horse slaughtering almost all (except for 144,000) of his fathers creations?
Wow! where do I sign up? Sounds like a loving god to me.

Originally posted by dilly1

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by dilly1

 

No hints needed:

Who Translated the KJB?

Wrong again bud,,

Its was Sir Francis Bacon.

Source?

And FYI, don't use sources from the lying idiot Laurence M. Vance.

Poisoning the well and ad hominem.

You're gonna have to do better than that egghead.

I. The First Westminister Company--translated the historical books, beginning with Genesis and ending with the Second Book of Kings.

Dr. Lancelot Andrews
Dr. John Overall
Dr. Hadrian Saravia
Dr. Richard Clarke, Dr. John Laifield, Dr. Robert Tighe, Francis Burleigh, Geoffry King, Richard Thompson
Dr. William Bedwell

II. The Cambridge Company--translated Chronicles to the end of the Song of Songs.


Edward Lively, Dr. John Richardson, Dr. Lawrence Chaderton
Francis Dillingham, Dr. Roger Andrews, Thomas Harrison, Dr. Robert Spaulding, Dr. Andrew Bing

III. The Oxford Company--translated beginning of Isaiah to the end of the Old Testament.

Dr. John Harding, Dr. John Reynolds
Dr. Thomas Holland, Dr. Richard Kilby
Dr. Miles Smith, Dr. Richard Brett, Daniel Fairclough

IV. The Second Oxford Company--translated the four Gospels, the Acts of the Apostles, and the Revelation of St. John the Divine.

Dr. Thomas Ravis, Dr. George Abbot
Dr. Richard Eedes, Dr. Giles Tomson, Sir Henry Savile
Dr. John Peryn, Dr. Ralph Ravens, Dr. John Harmar

V. The Fifth Company of Translators at Westminster--translated all of the Epistles of the New Testament

Dr. William Barlow, Dr. John Spencer, Dr. Roger Fenton, Dr. Ralph Hutchinson, William Dakins, Michael Rabbet, [Thomas(?)] Sanderson

VI. The Sixth Company of Translators at Cambridge translated the apocryphal books.

Dr. John Duport, Dr. William Brainthwaite, Dr. Jeremiah Radcliffe
Dr. Samuel Ward
Dr. Andrew Downes, John Bois
Dr. John Ward, Dr. John Aglionby, Dr. Leonard Hutten
Dr. Thomas Bilson, Dr. Richard Bancroft

KJB Translators

Sir Francis Bacon isn't on that list.

OP,

what do you make of this

jordanmaxwell.com...

Since you display such disdain for original versions of things, I took the liberty of translating your list of reasons into my own words. I believe you'll find that my version is far superior to the originals.

Originally posted by KJV1611, Translated into Glass Version which is clearly FAR SUPERIOR

I wanted to spout a bunch of inane drivel to "honour" the 400th year birthday of the King James Bible in 2011.

The main reasons that the KJV is superior to the "originals" is the fact that:

1. God changes his story every time he talks to someone. Jeremiah 36 is not a good example of God having no regard for originals, since he punishes the king for burning the original copy that he dictated to Jeremiah. God ADDED a passage ordering people not to add any more passages when Revelations was written. It seems God finally made up his mind on what he intended to say. Also, animals and plants cannot read.

2. The Originals were singular in prophetic nature and chronological timeline. With the KJV, you have a bastardized version written in murky archaic english. All of the books are difficult to understand and lack significant meaning.

3. The originals are in dead languages, which is a positive thing because meanings of words do not change in dead languages. Hebrew, Aramaic, dead, dead, Greek, alive and well. Ever heard of Greece? People speak Greek there to this day. Why do I consider these two languages dead? Because its a fact. Dead Language is defined as "A language no longer learned as a native language" English is not the ideal language for the Bible to be translated to because of the differences between English and Hebrew; in English we have multiple words that mean close to the same thing but differ greatly depending on context. In Hebrew, a single word can have many different meanings based on context. Translating a Hebrew word into English causes some of the meaning to be lost, and the fact that it was translated from Hebrew to English THROUGH other languages such as Greek means much meaning was likely lost. Look up BAD TRANSLATOR and you'll see what I mean.

4. The originals still exist, but the KJV is conveniently available to mislead people.

5. The KJV is the only version of God's words that are laid out in a correct Biblical dispensation timeline format. Not that it really matters.

My translation is clearly better than the Original because it is shortened and easier to digest and contains at least a grain of truth

gee,going from aramaic,to hebrew,to greek,to latin,then to ye olde english!!!! all written by scribes,who for the most part couln't read,they just copied what was in front of them. Mmmmmm, i wonder if there may have been a few(alot) of mistranslations going on??????? oh ya,i forgot the first printed bible that german guy put out,what was his name again?
i can go on for hours about this,but whos the bigger fool? the fool himself,or the person that argues with him

reply to post by ThePublicEnemyNo1


Fanatic? Not me. The question was something from the bible and I answered from the bible. I've studied it extensively. As for me, I think we are a hijacked species genetically modified to work.

God could care less about any originals? I'm not even Christian but I know that statement is blasphemous.

To speak for God about what He does and does not care about is so incredibly naive and prideful at the same time.

Especially since there are parts in these originals, that God cares nothing about, that will tell a completely different story than what you are reading today, at times.

For instance, originally the story of the Bible started out as a polytheistic tale of creation.

Man was created in THEIR image, the Elohim.

Originally posted by NOTurTypical

Originally posted by dilly1

Originally posted by NOTurTypical
reply to post by dilly1

 

No hints needed:

Who Translated the KJB?

Wrong again bud,,

Its was Sir Francis Bacon.

Source?

And FYI, don't use sources from the lying idiot Laurence M. Vance.

Poisoning the well and ad hominem.

You're gonna have to do better than that egghead.

I. The First Westminister Company--translated the historical books, beginning with Genesis and ending with the Second Book of Kings.

Dr. Lancelot Andrews
Dr. John Overall
Dr. Hadrian Saravia
Dr. Richard Clarke, Dr. John Laifield, Dr. Robert Tighe, Francis Burleigh, Geoffry King, Richard Thompson
Dr. William Bedwell

II. The Cambridge Company--translated Chronicles to the end of the Song of Songs.


Edward Lively, Dr. John Richardson, Dr. Lawrence Chaderton
Francis Dillingham, Dr. Roger Andrews, Thomas Harrison, Dr. Robert Spaulding, Dr. Andrew Bing

III. The Oxford Company--translated beginning of Isaiah to the end of the Old Testament.

Dr. John Harding, Dr. John Reynolds
Dr. Thomas Holland, Dr. Richard Kilby
Dr. Miles Smith, Dr. Richard Brett, Daniel Fairclough

IV. The Second Oxford Company--translated the four Gospels, the Acts of the Apostles, and the Revelation of St. John the Divine.

Dr. Thomas Ravis, Dr. George Abbot
Dr. Richard Eedes, Dr. Giles Tomson, Sir Henry Savile
Dr. John Peryn, Dr. Ralph Ravens, Dr. John Harmar

V. The Fifth Company of Translators at Westminster--translated all of the Epistles of the New Testament

Dr. William Barlow, Dr. John Spencer, Dr. Roger Fenton, Dr. Ralph Hutchinson, William Dakins, Michael Rabbet, [Thomas(?)] Sanderson

VI. The Sixth Company of Translators at Cambridge translated the apocryphal books.

Dr. John Duport, Dr. William Brainthwaite, Dr. Jeremiah Radcliffe
Dr. Samuel Ward
Dr. Andrew Downes, John Bois
Dr. John Ward, Dr. John Aglionby, Dr. Leonard Hutten
Dr. Thomas Bilson, Dr. Richard Bancroft

KJB Translators

Sir Francis Bacon isn't on that list.

TRY to step out of your christian bubble; Really open your ignorant mind and just type(using ANY search engine) "Sir Francis Bacon/KJB" together and you will find an infinite amount of sources proving you're beyond wrong with your evangelical list,,,lol. Just try it,,,,because all you do is give christian amateur website as a source,,lol!!!!!

C'mon buddy. Do you really think anyone reads your sources and comes to a definitive conclusion: "Yep this is a viable source guys"


Lol!!!!!!!!

The problem with the KJV is that it isn't in the english language!

It's some old slangy version of english comparable to Jeff Foxworthy's redneck dictionary.

That's how I see it at least.

Originally posted by Magnificient
Very wrong in one respect. Christ is the god of the Old Testament as well as the New Testament. Christ is a god of war. What you read in the New Testament is the "still, soft voice." He won't be still and soft when he returns.

Is there any way I can protect my children and wife from him when he comes back, or his he going to kill all of us with no hope of survival? Any help would be appreciated.

reply to post by KJV1611


Hebrew isn't dead and neither is aramaic. When the jews returned to Jerusalem their first task they set about was relearning hebrew that they found manuscripts of. The language they were speaking was a bastardized mix of euro-hebrew called yiddish but it was phonestically similar to hebrew and aramaic. Now at the time the King James was first written they were both dead languages, but not anymore.

Originally posted by reficul
gee,going from aramaic,to hebrew,to greek,to latin,then to ye olde english!!!! all written by scribes,who for the most part couln't read,they just copied what was in front of them. Mmmmmm, i wonder if there may have been a few(alot) of mistranslations going on??????? oh ya,i forgot the first printed bible that german guy put out,what was his name again?

i can go on for hours about this,but whos the bigger fool? the fool himself,or the person that argues with him

Well, not according to the dead sea scrolls. The scrolls pretty much mirror the olde english bible very well except for the occasional mispelled word, its the same.

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by Magnificient
Very wrong in one respect. Christ is the god of the Old Testament as well as the New Testament. Christ is a god of war. What you read in the New Testament is the "still, soft voice." He won't be still and soft when he returns.

Is there any way I can protect my children and wife from him when he comes back, or his he going to kill all of us with no hope of survival? Any help would be appreciated.

Nah, youre pretty much screwed because the only protection from him is Christ. Don't have Christ? Youre gonig to end up a red stain on the ground and anyone else like you.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Nah, youre pretty much screwed because the only protection from him is Christ. Don't have Christ? Youre gonig to end up a red stain on the ground and anyone else like you.

So, when Jesus comes breaking down my doors, and my wife, children, and I are all huddled together in fear, and I raise my hands to surrender, will he still kill us all?

I mean, I fear maybe the Russians, or some Muslims, or someone like that doing this, but Jesus? Oh well. Will he torture us first, or kill us quickly since he's going to torture us for eternity anyway? Also, I hope he doesn't rape us before killing us.

first of all it's not a book. it's a testament of eye witness accounts of what they saw and heard.

times change and society evolves. the torah is God's covenant with the jews, the New Testament is a covenant with the world.

Originally posted by Hydroman

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
Nah, youre pretty much screwed because the only protection from him is Christ. Don't have Christ? Youre gonig to end up a red stain on the ground and anyone else like you.

So, when Jesus comes breaking down my doors, and my wife, children, and I are all huddled together in fear, and I raise my hands to surrender, will he still kill us all?

I mean, I fear maybe the Russians, or some Muslims, or someone like that doing this, but Jesus? Oh well. Will he torture us first, or kill us quickly since he's going to torture us for eternity anyway?

edit on 9-1-2012 by Hydroman because: (no reason given)

If you submit to him, perhaps not but...this is entirely dependant on wether or not you have the mark of the beast staining you. If you don't have the mark of the beast then you will most likely be spared. People with the beast's mark on them will be destroyed.

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by KJV1611

 

Hebrew isn't dead and neither is aramaic. When the jews returned to Jerusalem their first task they set about was relearning hebrew that they found manuscripts of. The language they were speaking was a bastardized mix of euro-hebrew called yiddish but it was phonestically similar to hebrew and aramaic. Now at the time the King James was first written they were both dead languages, but not anymore.

Too bad KJB was written and translated by no other than Sir Francis Bacon. Who also wrote all of Shakespeare's works. Bet you didn't know that.


Still have blind faith?

Superior at what? Coercing the masses to serve the plutocratic elite that have controlled world finance, trade, religion, and social norms for hundreds of year? Yeah, I think thats it. Good job OP for figuring that ou....wait a minute. No no no no. Just no.

reply to post by KJV1611


A lot was lost in translation, because the original letters and language hides codes and revelations that the word for word translation misses.

There is a depth and structure that exceeds the mental capabilities of us mere humans and that identifies the true author.

Thankfully, we have most of both the "originals" and the translations.

May God grant you wisdom from all scriptures.

... and happy birthday to one of the most profound compilations of thought, heart and truth.

Originally posted by dilly1

Originally posted by lonewolf19792000
reply to post by KJV1611

 

Hebrew isn't dead and neither is aramaic. When the jews returned to Jerusalem their first task they set about was relearning hebrew that they found manuscripts of. The language they were speaking was a bastardized mix of euro-hebrew called yiddish but it was phonestically similar to hebrew and aramaic. Now at the time the King James was first written they were both dead languages, but not anymore.

Too bad KJB was written and translated by no other than Sir Francis Bacon. Who also wrote all of Shakespeare's works. Bet you didn't know that.


Still have blind faith?

Yep, still do because the dead sea scrolls confirm it and the small lead booklets found dating to the first century A.D. that speak about the Messiah and his death and resurrection. Still believe 100% in the King of kings. Too bad you don't, its not going to be pretty for you.