Debunk this: New UFO Video taken at night over Campinas, Brazil.

reply to post by greeneyedleo


I hardly see any resemblance between the video being discussed and the videos you've posted except lights in the sky. They dont share alot of characteristics.

Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by tallcool1

 

Lets put aside the millions of people who said they saw, encountered or been abducted.
All these military people, politicians and even astronauts are lying.

Mexican government also?

www.youtube.com...

www.youtube.com...

Not necessarily lying, just mistaken. Although some are lying for attention. As for your links, link 1 references Jaime Maussen, a known hoaxer and BS artist. Link 2 - I see no connection to aliens whatsoever.

Originally posted by Phage
Here's something of interest.

yeah much better than my skydiving ones. had no clue those existed.

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It's very reminiscent of this:

reply to post by tallcool1


The mexican government already had disclosure and said they confirm the existence of UFO's. As for buzz why do you say he was mistaken? He saw things most people wont get to see in our lifetime...

As for why the aliens are visiting us now? Two reasons.

Atomic bombs and our space exploration. It makes complete sense, we are not in the stone age anymore...

2nd video looks like a crane with lights on swinging in the wind

reply to post by CountDrac


Don't they speak Portuguese in Brazil????

Wouldn't it be nice if you could speak...and understand a bit of Spanish?

I can't believe nobody has come along and translated this yet!

Oh well...the video was interesting!

"Is that on the mountain"?

"No, it's above it"!

"I saw it from the kitchen first"!

The use of the word "tampoco" instead of "tambien" is common for a statement that doesn't agree...for example:

I live with Sancho "tambien" (also).
I don't live with Sancho "tampoco" (also).

Originally posted by CountDrac


Lets put aside the millions of people who said they saw, encountered or been abducted.
All these military people, politicians and even astronauts are lying.

It's happened to me and I for one am not a liar.

Why lie? So people will think I'm nuts and ostracize me?
Who would ever want that? And if they DID want to be an outcast then I'm sure there are a lot quicker/surer ways of doing so other than to conjure up an alien abduction story!!

I'm just sayin'.........................

reply to post by greeneyedleo


Skydivers? For what purpose?
Hoping someone will see this---- and grab their camera-----then upload it on YouTube----- so they (the skydivers) can have their 15-minutes of anonymous fame? Are you serious? It makes no sense.

Man oh man. I mean c'mon. Coming up with some of these explanations is scary than the actual implication of these being genuine alien vessels.

Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by greeneyedleo

 

Skydivers? For what purpose?
Hoping someone will see this---- and grab their camera-----then upload it on YouTube----- so they (the skydivers) can have their 15-minutes of anonymous fame? Are you serious? It makes no sense.

Man oh man. I mean c'mon. Coming up with some of these explanations is scary than the actual implication of these being genuine alien vessels.

I dont understand your question or comment. While im not saying it is in fact skydivers, I was addressing that it could be based on all kinds of reasons. Nobody here is showing how it is not skydivers. Instead some are jumping to conclusion it is alien ufos!!!

How about everyone FIRST go thru a list of what it could be and elminate that way. When nothing is left, then yup. UFO.

Do you not see that skydivers attach lights to themselves and fly at night? So again, I do not get your comment/question on skydivers. That makes no sense to me.

All I see is that when people give some logical explanation some people scream HAHAHAH NO WAY!! NO WAY!!! instead of providing explanation why the logical explanation could not be. I read "debunk this!!!" yet the person who throws that challenge out does NOTHING to show that it needs to be debunked or that it is of alien nature.


So please, debunk why this video is not showing something of explainable terrestrial origin!

Originally posted by CountDrac
reply to post by tallcool1

 

The mexican government already had disclosure and said they confirm the existence of UFO's. As for buzz why do you say he was mistaken? He saw things most people wont get to see in our lifetime...

As for why the aliens are visiting us now? Two reasons.

Atomic bombs and our space exploration. It makes complete sense, we are not in the stone age anymore...

edit on 8-1-2012 by CountDrac because: (no reason given)

The UK and US told the UN that Saddam Hussain had weapons of mass destruction.
Oh

You know what all of this (night sky divers and Chinese lanterns) reminds me of?

Debunk patrol. Just like what they did when the crop circles became too numerous to explain.
Because once they realized it was happening too often and too fast, they simply started making up the 'planks and rope' excuses!
And in came Doug and Dave and their cronies.
They even made documentaries showing how groups of students accomplished these feats But WHY anyone would want to do it (and risk arrest) was even more of a mystery!

To some degree, that's what's happening here I feel.

When these points of lights can't be explained in a conventional plausible manner, they start inserting off-the-wall (but easy to comprehend) excuses.
Like lanterns. And now divers. And honestly, it's a bit laughable!

Originally posted by Human_Alien
You know what all of this (night sky divers and Chinese lanterns) reminds me of?

Debunk patrol. Just like what they did when the crop circles became too numerous to explain.
Because once they realized it was happening too often and too fast, they simply started making up the 'planks and rope' excuses!
And in came Doug and Dave and their cronies.
They even made documentaries showing how groups of students accomplished these feats But WHY anyone would want to do it (and risk arrest) was even more of a mystery!

To some degree, that's what's happening here I feel.

When these points of lights can't be explained in a conventional plausible manner, they start inserting off-the-wall (but easy to comprehend) excuses.
Like lanterns. And now divers. And honestly, it's a bit laughable!

Im sorry, do you have something to add to this thread besides trashing those who are trying to offer explanation? Can you please give us a presentation on what this video is? Please tell us the location these ships came from and the alien type that is flying it. Thanks!

Besides that...the OP told everyone to debunk it and gave absolutely ZERO original thought on his own. I have yet to see you to give us a presentation on what we are seeing. You are just laughing at those who are TRYING to find a logical explanation.

So, now we are waiting for your explanation on what it is. And please debunk that these are terrestrial in origin.

So easy to criticize others, when one does no work themselves.

Thanks

reply to post by greeneyedleo


That's the point. To me there is no logic attached to night sky diving in this particular situation/video. I just don't see it.
Not only do I not see it from the sky-divers prospective (and why they'd want to do this) I don't see how it's done in a scientific manner either.
What the hell are they doing? Juggling torches? Performing a disappearing carnival act up there? Is David Blaine up there helping out?

It's just too far fetched.

Why not just say it's a hologram then too?

I mean, anything can be rendered an explanation. Having it make sense, is something else!!

reply to post by greeneyedleo



These are bona fide UFOs. Nothing to debunk. Can't do it.

Sometimes there are things happening around us that defies Human comprehension and explanation.
And this I feel, may be one of those incidents.

And by the way, I'm not bashing anyone or at least I hope I'm not coming off that way. I just cannot fathom how that video is indicative of people romping around at night, up in the air in parachutes or jet packs or hot air balloons.
I just can't go there. Sorry Greeneyedleo

PS. Leo's are awesome people. We're supposed to get along famously. I guess not, huh?

reply to post by Human_Alien

Why do skydivers jump out of a perfectly good airplane at all?
But they do. And they do it at night. Doing it at night, it would make sense to carry lights.
answers.yahoo.com...

reply to post by Human_Alien


I agree with HumanAlien. Why would skydivers do this? And how? As far as i know, once they have begun falling, they keep falling. Yet in the video you can see lights moving up. And where are they all coming from? Are they wearing some kind of telportation device because they are all over the place.

Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by greeneyedleo

 

These are bona fide UFOs. Nothing to debunk. Can't do it

Did you see this?
www.abovetopsecret.com...

Originally posted by Human_Alien
reply to post by greeneyedleo

 

These are bona fide UFOs. Nothing to debunk. Can't do it.

Sometimes there are things happening around us that defies Human comprehension and explanation.
And this I feel, may be one of those incidents.

And by the way, I'm not bashing anyone or at least I hope I'm not coming off that way. I just cannot fathom how that video is indicative of people romping around at night, up in the air in parachutes or jet packs or hot air balloons.
I just can't go there. Sorry Greeneyedleo

PS. Leo's are awesome people. We're supposed to get along famously. I guess not, huh?

I have nothing against you Just debating you You know how LEOs always need to be right and all that