New JFK evidence proves Oswald innocent

Originally posted by canadiansenior70

Originally posted by Blarneystoner

Originally posted by canadiansenior70
reply to post by Blarneystoner

 

He didn't kill anyone.

Tippit's body was usd as a double for JFK

www.jfkresearch.com...

and I expect he was just expendable, alive,

This is getting better and better....

and Paul McCartney has been dead since the 60s

edit on 5-1-2012 by Blarneystoner because: (no reason given)

It didn't take you long to read that article about the body switching!
Gee, it took me a long enough time that I couldn't have replied about it as quickly as you did!
As far as McCartney goes, he did die in the 60s, but TPTB had just set up a plan for the Beatles to infiltrate America, (drugs and all, eh?) so Paul had to be replaced, and he was.

or did you not study up on that one either?

edit on 5-1-2012 by canadiansenior70 because: spell

No... I didn't read it... the premise is ridiculous.

...and I had a suspicion that you were one of those "Paul is dead people". Certainly lends credence to your opinions...

reply to post by Blarneystoner

There is enough evidence to be reasonably sure that Oswald killed Tippit.

Ok, that's fair enough, but what reasons in particular do it for you?

Like I said before we certainly can't trust the witnesses as they all said completely different thing's, and the route itself is a stretch especially as Oswald's own landlady, Earlene Roberts, even claimed to have seen Oswald waiting for a bus shortly after he left the rooming house (he left at approximately 1pm) leaving him with even less time to reach the location of Tippit who was murdered less than 15 minutes after Oswald originally left the house.

reply to post by Rising Against


The witness testimony and the spent shells from Oswald's weapon, the weapon he owned. Even though the slugs were never identified as being fired from that weapon. The weapon in question had it's barrel altered. I understand that the ballistics is questionable but you can't say that it proves he didn't do it just as you can't say it proves that he did.

It's ridicilous to claim that Oswald was "innocent". Members of the HSCA were very close to proving that OSwald was spook who worked with crazy, extreme-right, Castro hating Cuban exiles, but was sent to infiltrate the pro-communist movement. He was CIA, but at the same time clearly set up as the fall guy. But details are missing, so we don't know the details.

Haven't reached my 20 replies yet, but this page briefly discusses who killed Kennedy and how the same people seem to have come together to carry out 9/11:

wikispooks.com...

reply to post by Jason1865


I agree with you about Oswald being the fall guy. There was a guy who was set up as the fall guy, I believe in Chicago, when they were trying to pull it off there and he was a similar profile to Oswald: ex-marine, loner, etc., I can't remember his name. But I feel from all I've researched (although I admit I could be wrong) that Oswald actually thought he was working for the 'good guys' though.

reply to post by Blarneystoner

The witness testimony and the spent shells from Oswald's weapon, the weapon he owned. Even though the slugs were never identified as being fired from that weapon. The weapon in question had it's barrel altered. I understand that the ballistics is questionable but you can't say that it proves he didn't do it just as you can't say it proves that he did.

Huh? But you said there was and I quote: "but we have plenty of solid reasons to believe that Oswald killed Tippit.... I don't think I need to outline the entire case. There is enough evidence to be reasonably sure that Oswald killed Tippit." *

Yet in your recent reply which I quoted above all you could come up with was something which you yourself say can't prove whether he really did it or not. So forgive me here, but you're sending rather mixed messages. You say there's evidence and yet you fail to provide it, instead you throw out something which you yourself admit doesn't really prove anything at all.

Also, and like I’ve said twice already, the witness testimonies all say completely different thing’s and are rendered wholly unreliable by all researchers of this case. Upon reading them we can't know which is more accurate than the next, or the one before it. So no, the witness testimonies unfortunately prove nothing in this instance (unfortunate as most of them point towards a conspiracy in fact).

Here's an interesting read from the late JD Tippit Assassination expert Larry Ray Harris which will clear up a great deal for you and others. As It's a long read however, I'll post a snippet and then a link to the full posting.

WHERE WAS OSWALD?
The Warren Report said Oswald, afoot, left his rooming house in the Oak Cliff section of Dallas at 1:04 p.m. Police were notified of the shooting by a citizen using the radio in Tippit's squad car at 1:16 p.m. Therefore, Oswald had no more than 12 minutes to walk from his apartment to the intersection of Tenth & Patton - about one mile away.

BUT, Oswald's landlady told the Secret Service that she looked out the window "several minutes later" and observed Oswald standing motionless at the curb in front of the house. Therefore, "several minutes" after 1:04 p.m. Oswald was still lingering in the immediate vicinity of his rooming house. (Perhaps he was waiting on the mysterious police car which, according to the landlady's testimony, paused directly in front of 1026 N. Beckley while Oswald was in his room, honked its horn twice. and drove away.)

AND, contrary to the Warren Report's assertion that he "rushed' to Tippit's car and "promptly" notified police on Tippit's radio, eyewitness Domingo Benavides testified that when the shooting began, he crouched down in the seat of his pick-up truck and laid low for "a few minutes" because he was afraid the gunman would reappear and start shooting again. Thus, 'a few minutes' elapsed between the shooting and the time police were notified at 1:16 p.m. (Benavides first tried to aid the mortally wounded officer before climbing into Tippit's squad car and fumbling with the radio microphone, trying to figure out how it worked. .

(Source)


Oh, and here's a part of the article which goes onto discuss the gun used and how it fails to tie Oswald to the slaying which you would probably want to read:

FOUR + FOUR = "A SLIGHT PROBLEM"
Four bullets were removed from Tippit's body, and four empty shell casings were reportedly found at the scene of his death. Investigators' should have had no problem matching them up to indisputably establish Oswald's guilt.

BUT, the bullets taken from Tippit's body could not be traced to Oswald's revolver. According to an FBI exert, the barrel of the pistol which fired the bullets -- allegedly Oswald's .38 Smith & Wesson revolver -- had been modified, causing the bullets to pass erratically through the barrel thereby leaving inconsistent individual characteristics which made positive identification impossible. Years later in the late 1970's, the House Assassinations Committee also was unable to positively connect any of the bullets to Oswald's pistol -- even with sophisticated techniques not available in 1964.

MOREOVER, three of the bullets were manufactured by Western-Winchester, and one by Remington-Peters. BUT two of the shell casings were made by Western-Winchester, and two were made by Remington-Peters. The Report was unable to adequately explain this curious discrepancy -- which staff attorney, Melvin Eisenberg delicately described as "a slight problem" when he broke the news to the Commission's executive members.

Source is linked above.

The eye witnesses claim that a few minutes had passed but that’s a guess not a fact. Some say they saw him inside the Texas Theatre at 1:15. The witnesses on the scene said they saw him shoot the officer. Who is right?
The time required to walk the route that Oswald took can vary depending on how fast you may be walking.

A .38 caliber Smith and Wesson automatic? .38s are typically revolvers. Please provide a link to show me a 1960s .38 caliber Smith and Wesson automatic because I can’t find one. Also, please tell me how to distinguish an automatic shell from a revolver shell of the same ciliber, as the police officer allegedly did.

Walking West, walking East….. maybe he turned around when he saw the officer? People who are running from the law tend to do that.

The shells found on the scene matched Oswald’s weapon, that’s established and one of the pieces of evidence I cited. The slugs… not the shells could not be identified as being fired from Oswald’s gun, however it was determined that Oswald’s revolver barrel had been modified making any slug fired from that weapon untraceable back to that weapon.

The article you quoted says that only the shell casings were found at the scene and no other evidence was found. His jacket was also found a few blocks away where Oswald dropped it on his way to the theatre.

Even CTs who think Oswald is innocent of the JFK assassination concede that he shot Tippit.

Granted, this does not prove that he shot Kennedy but I think no amount of evidence will convince some people.

www.ahealedplanet.net...

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I took this picture because it has never been proven that Oswald killed Kennedy, Officer Tippet, or anybody else. He was never taken to trial, and the evidence against him is spurious, at best. We are all innocent until proven guilty in this country, and Oswald has been unfairly characterized as an assassin. Between the "Magic Bullet" theory and the whole "sniper's nest" theory (the worst place to shoot from in all of Dealy Plaza), I am convinced he didn't do it. He may have been a spook, but he was not the one to pull the triggers (plural).