I Reported a Child Molester

Authorities must become involved, especially since this involve minors.. Contact the police immediately.

You're doing the right thing

reply to post by Communicationwillfreeus


Good for your "friend"! I have learned the hard way after years in the legal system with a person who was stalking and threatening me that if I'm ever in a similar situation having a visit payed by a Chuck Norris wannabe is probably the way to go. The person who harassed me for years was arrested countless times, spent many nights in jail, etc., but I never got my day in court, his father was a lawyer and had a good reputation. I dideverything by the book, spent a couple thousand and received nothing but an ulcer. Though I did find out I have a natural gift of marksmanmanship. Which I continued to hone, should I ever be in danger again.

Originally posted by truthinfact
Authorities must become involved, especially since this involve minors.. Contact the police immediately.

You're doing the right thing

He already has.

Did you read the OP's posts?

Originally posted by OneEleven

First off, i'd like to point out how YOU refer to the posters in this thread as US and WE while YOU havn't contributed in the slightest......

You easily forget that I contributed on the first page.

I really wish you were in the neighborhood with me....we could just march over there in full force.....

Vigilante justice. That's awesome all right. Let's just march over there and beat some people up!

Again...thank you for rushing to judgement and attacking me while simultaneously ignoring the topic, the OP, the other posters and forcing yourself upon and grouping yourself with people that would probably want nothing to do with you...
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Several peopple have, along with myself, pointed out the troublesome aspects of your story. I rest my case. And what's this about running over cats again? Sweet!

Originally posted by truthinfact
Siblings played doctor... Contact the police immediately.

You're doing the right thing

Are people really so desperately in need of drama that they need to criminalize the children in question?
In cases like this there will indeed be victims but only because of people like you and the so called heroes can pound there chests at their expense,sigh.

"Victory attained by violence is tantamount to a defeat, for it is momentary."

"It is better to be violent, if there is violence in our hearts, than to put on the cloak of nonviolence to cover impotence"

thank you A-team......oh yeah and Gandhi.......great movie.....great man.......

oh yeah,....and be the change.....thats what I got from ganhi´s life.....


cut and paste........nice

Originally posted by Rafe_

Originally posted by truthinfact
Siblings played doctor... Contact the police immediately.

You're doing the right thing

Are people really so desperately in need of drama that they need to criminalize the children in question?
In cases like this there will indeed be victims but only because of people like you and the so called heroes can pound there chests at their expense,sigh.

This is the second time that you've mentioned the 'innocence' of children 'playing doctor'.....First, you mentioned it on your own, and now you've gone as far as to edit another member's post to push your doctor playing agenda....

Am i to understand that you see nothing wrong with 'siblings playing doctor'?

And if the siblings are 16 and 8, which is the case here?

Is this the point you're driving?....It's ok for siblings to touch each other's private areas?

I just want to understand where you're coming from...

Wow this thread really made me angry and sad at the same time. So much tragedy on all fronts.

reply to post by Chewingonmushrooms


it is a valid emotion.....even despare.....but the control over your self you enjoy is pivitol to your very existance....the emotions you may feel are inherent of your very essence.....find balance....adapt....grow....

while they will likely go ignored, i'd like to point out a few things that there were not room for in the OP, and honestly, i didnt feel were important.....But since i've been attacked, maybe i should make a few things clear....

1. I called my neighbors across the street 'hillbillies'. They are. Simple as that. I'm not labeling them. They're PROUD to be hillbillies. Rebel flags in the windows and all. The truck in the drive has a HUGE window sticker in the back that says "REDNECK". Have any of you ever seen The Wild And Wonderful Whites of West Virginia? Well, these are the Wild And Wonderful Whites of Georgia, and they're proud of it. This is one of the reasons i've always liked them. Not because i support their views or lifestyle, but they've always been very honest people, and for all their faults, friendly neighbors. I like people who aren't afraid to be themselves.

2. The hillbillies across the street aren't necessarily on the right side of the law. Not on the Jeffery Dahmer side of things, but more of on a Duke Boys feel. For me, morally, this dosn't make them bad people. The police are called there a few times a month, bottles are thrown and war calls are 'hollered' and the next day they're back together like a big happy family.

3. The original source of the information, the 22 year old grand daughter in law across the street, may very well have warrants. I would be inclined to say that she DOES have warrants, but that would be like me saying that the boy next door IS a child molester. I havn't seen the warrant, just like i havn't seen the brother touch the little girl, but the Grandmother of the 22 year old has told me that the girl has warrants for a probation violation (misdemeanor weed possession), and this is likely the reason that she is hesitant to talk to authority figures.

4. The neighbors next door and the location of alleged molestation may not be the best breed of people, but i don't HATE them either. In fact, i've been inside the house TWICE, when the home was burglarized. The grandmother of the little girl, JUST LIKE the grandmother of the 22 year old came to me FIRST, i guess because i was closest, and asked me to make sure her house was safe to enter. Sure, she called the police, but as another poster pointed out so graciously, this isn't the best neighborhood on earth and the police are slow to respond. Aside from the security i've provided for the grandmother next door, i've allowed her grandchildren to play in my yard without permission. I've trimmed my own trees away from her property and even trimmed some of her own trees from her house knowing that she couldn't do it herself.

In the early years when i first moved in next door, she would ask me to watch her house when she went out of town, and even asked me to call the police if i saw her daughter (the mother of the little girl) coming and going. And as mentioned in the OP, i actually became close with the german man that she was married to this last time. We've been on speaking terms, and i wave to them, and SOMETIMES, she waves back. I don't hate them, or even judge them. Honestly, i don't know that i HATE anyone anywhere.

6. I'm not spying on my neighbors. Any of them. Around here, you don't have to. What goes on goes on the front lawn for the entire world to see. I must admit though that with the neighbors next door, i have been nervous for my property just because of the shady guys that come around there. I've seen a few look over the fence into my own yard, and yes, i am on guard about what goes on at or around my fence.

5. I havn't jumped the gun, and nowhere in my OP or thereafter have i jumped the gun. I have not confronted the boy. I have not confronted the girl. I have no intention of harming the boy or acting out any other sort of 'vigilante justice'. THIS, my friends, is where in lies one of the problems.

Of course, knowing a child is in danger and being a father, this IS the first thought to come to mind (something would be wrong if it wasn't the first thought that comes to mind), but you just push it to the back and don't act on it. Well, i don't at least.

The problems here are obvious, and i've thought about them ALOT. Did the girl lie? Is she accusing the brother in place of another man? Does she think she's in love? Does she LIKE what's happening to her, or does she THINK she likes it? Does she know its wrong? Does the mother know? Does the grandmother know? Has the brother threatened her? Would he follow through on such threats? Would she be molested by her caregivers if she was removed from the home? Is the brother alone in his exploits? Has there only been folding or an actual RAPE? These are questions that NONE of us can answer.

6. The only time i've been cross with a poster in this thread is in defending MYSELF, which seems kind of crazy that i would even have to do that. I've been accused of being judgmental, ignorant, hateful, and even a peeping tom. None of which are true. While its become obvious that most of these accusers have either skipped the OP entirely or skimmed it for a rotten board to pry on, it dosn't lessen the blow any.

And while these accusations could easily be dismissed knowing the way the internet works, and knowing that certain people use the internet for this very purpose, i AM a human being, not just a screen name, and i'd be lying if i said my feelings weren't hurt.

Thanks to everyone who hasn't jumped the gun, and a big SEE YA to those who have.

Not sure if this would work or if it would be more trouble (to the girl) than good, but have you tried taking the boy to the side and putting a scare in him? Not physically but rather letting him know that you know and that you won't go to the authorities "this time" (bluff) but if the little one says anything more about molestation or retaliation for telling that you will call the police and have him arrested. Make sure you go into detail about what they do to molesters in prision (lie and say he'll be tried as an adult) and that you personally know the assistant DA of the county.

I know you'll be lying, but hopefully it would work and wouldn't backfire.

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
Not sure if this would work or if it would be more trouble (to the girl) than good, but have you tried taking the boy to the side and putting a scare in him? Not physically but rather letting him know that you know and that you won't go to the authorities "this time" (bluff) but if the little one says anything more about molestation or retaliation for telling that you will call the police and have him arrested. Make sure you go into detail about what they do to molesters in prision (lie and say he'll be tried as an adult) and that you personally know the assistant DA of the county.

I know you'll be lying, but hopefully it would work and wouldn't backfire.

edit on 4-1-2012 by Chewingonmushrooms because: (no reason given)

thanks Mushroom, and yeah, i've thought about this ALOT....My feet have actually moved in that direction a few times and i stopped them. Like a few of the members have accused me of doing, i DO NOT want to jump the gun, and i really don't want to put the little girl into harms way. Not to mention that things could escalate quickly from there if they boy tried to get physical.

like another member said, at this point, its really a lose lose situation for everybody involved.

reply to post by OneEleven


Yeah there are definitely holes in that approach and major ones at that, but I feel your pain at feeling powerless cause I would feel exactly the same way. I don't even hate the 16 year old because chances are he was/is abused himself. The whole family is abused really when you think about it. About the only chance is the hope that she'll say something in school.

Here's a summary of your case.

"I know a gal who knows a gal who knows a gal who says this guy is a pervert."

That's all you really know.

Drama ensues.....

Originally posted by Chewingonmushrooms
reply to post by OneEleven

 

Yeah there are definitely holes in that approach and major ones at that, but I feel your pain at feeling powerless cause I would feel exactly the same way. I don't even hate the 16 year old because chances are he was/is abused himself. The whole family is abused really when you think about it. About the only chance is the hope that she'll say something in school.

you and i sir (or ma'am) are on the same page...

But like i pointed out in a previous post, what if she thinks whats happening to her is OK? She's 8 years old. What if she is under the assumption that she'll be marrying her brother one day? What if she's IN LOVE with him?

She very well could have been telling the nieghbor across the street about what her brother does to her as CASUAL conversation....Like, "Me and my boyfriend do this"...whatever the case, it was enough to bring the 22 year old to tears.

And if this IS the case (thinking out loud), and she IS in love with the brother and sees nothing wrong with whats happening to her, it could be good and bad for the case.

If she loves the brother and plans on marrying him, she may tell just because she dosn't realize that its wrong.

On the same coin, if she loves and wants to marry the brother, she could lie to protect him.

I guess it would depend on how she is approached about it. THIS i am no expert in.

Another problem is this.

Say she dosn't know that it's wrong. Say she is in love and wants to marry (as all little girls do) her abuser. Say (ugh....i hate saying this), say she likes it....or thinks she does....The truth is, it may not even be affecting her negatively right now. There may be NO signs to clue an authority figure in without some sort of visual.

So is it still wrong if this is what the little girl WANTS? You're damned right it is. She's 8. She dosn't have any idea about anything. All she knows is what she sees on TV and what she sees going on in her home.

It may not even have an effect on her until LATER. Later, when she realizes what was really going on, and man, i think this would be the worst possible outcome. There is no telling what such feelings would drive a person to do.

whew.....ok....i'm done for now....mental marathons going on here....

reply to post by OneEleven


It's a sir , yeah that is true she might actually be going along with it because she doesn't know better. Kids have innate sense when something is wrong and detect it rather quickly with adults. Maybe the fact that he's her brother and is somewhat young himself makes it feel more "natural" to her or maybe she is curious herself. Thing is she is 8 (or 9) and cannot really make that decision for herself. Her brother on the other hand is of age that he should know MUCH better.

But there are so many factors in this that it isn't so clear cut. Both I am sure are craving attention being that their mother is there but not there and the father is non existent. The grandmother also seems to have mental issues if she's bringing in all sorts of strange men in the house. Maybe the only sense of normality that they have is in themselves and are experimenting in adult themes. Again the problem with that is the brother has gone through pubity and the sister hasn't which makes it pedophilla. If both were around the same age at the same level of mental development things would be obviously different.

Maybe she'll be able to shrug it off as she gets older as different experiences effects each other differently. The emotion of feeling that you have your free will is a strong one and if she is consenting in someway regardless of her delusion, at least the scar wouldn't be as deep one would assume as opposed to if it was done out of her free will.

I condone none of it of course.

Congratulations on doing the right thing - reporting this and not ducking under the covers like so many people.

You need a professional or semi professional to back up / follow up what you believe is happening (I am not judging here whether there is something going on). Can you send an anonymous letter to say the school without accusing but explaining the nature of your concerns for the child? A teacher (or for that matter a doctor) would have their own protocol to deal with the scenario - and I can guarantee it would not to be ignored. This action may actually lead back to them reporting the issue - giving you the multiple reports that you want!

reply to post by OneEleven


My man, you need to relax.

First of all you are jumping the gun in the sense that you desire to take action in a situation that may not even exist. That's mentally jumping the gun. This "powerless" feeling you have is nonsense
That's like me saying I'm powerless against purple dragons. Of course you can't do anything about a situation that may not even exist.

I know people who have been raped and molested by parents and siblings and let me tell you they are not as keen to talk about it as this girl was. I also know that children use the abuse claim to get even with those that are older than them. My friend's son did that to her because she grounded him. When CPS told him he was going to be taken away from his mom and dad he reneged on his claim pretty quick.

This girl could easily be lying. Matter of fact chances are that she was lying and you are getting bent out of shape over nothing.

Also you have to not worry about something that is not your business and you can do nothing about.

As far as describing the boy's penis, I could describe the penises of half my friends and my own brother's. But we never molested each other. Sometimes you see people you live with naked. It happens. And the fact that the girl went to such lengths to describe his penis is tantamount to the fact that she is lying. It is unlikely an abuse victim is going to willingly recount such a traumatizing event.

When my friend told me about her father raping her, she did not describe to me the size of his penis.

reply to post by templar knight


yeah I didn't really think of the community....schools....law enforcement....they should know....even on a personal, "local" level.....talking is not illegal....(yet).....

so just starting this conversation with the parents of other kids at the school is a good step....the PTA also....local power is awesome at solving the "in-between" problems that let kids fall through the cracks.....

Kids around her are not benefitting from this or are anymore protected from her telling them things that WILL effect their trust in the world and adults in general......

ya know........

If I were you, I would mention to the 16 year old boy that you know what he's doing, and it's only a matter of time before he is taken away to jail for a loooooong time. Put a scare in that boy. Then just keep on calling until they do an investigation.