Abductions, a new view perhaps......

Some claim that humanity had been altered in it's early stages of development here on earth,
the end result making us more intellectually advanced than what we would have attained here naturally.

Perhaps the same aliens are in the process of doing the same, NOW, on other planets,
and alleged abductions here could be involved with that process,
harvesting genetic material to create hybrids,
not to colonise earth,
but to seed another planetary body.

Your thoughts please.

This theory sounds a lot better than some of the others. I think its definitely plausible.

So what do they want by creating a hybrid race? Instead they can live out their life and better themselves.

I am not sure the sheep goats, horses and other odd animals conform to this need but could be wrong obviously.....
Cows and humans match fairly well, but the others no......
Unless they are building a whole flora and fauna for another world.............
Why do they refer to humans as containers? and who said that anyways?
I have read they are after our souls as well......how does that fit?

Originally posted by radkrish
So what do they want by creating a hybrid race? Instead they can live out their life and better themselves.

They could be using genetic material from us,
to rack up the intelligence factor of a compatible species,
Indigenous to another planet.

Similar to what is claimed to have been done to us,
many 10's of thousands of years ago.

If you want to pay a visit to the highly speculative weird zone,
I think the job of these genetic happy aliens is to provide
suitable containers for souls on as many planets as possible.
Once a brain becomes sufficiently advanced,
an eternal soul can inhabit that container for at least one lifetime,
before moving on again.

I can't find the source right now, but it's out there.
Man's DNA does mix with Apes DNA. There's a sequential gap that does not make mathematical logic, based on the other confirmed formulations.

In other words, the evolution math doesn't jive. Additional sequencing was added somewhere in the makeup.

We already have a seed bank stored up in the artic to perserve NON Geneticly Modified Plant species.
en.wikipedia.org...

I LOVE the number of different types of life here on earth, from animals to plants. (Even people minus politicians)

Do you think if someone planted our seeds and DNA here on earth, they have to ARK us to other planets?

I'm asking. I don't know.

You would agree that if aliens exist they have some sort of non-intervention policy with us, given they haven't openly made themselves known? Subversively trading genes between inferior lifeforms/species(?) would seem to fly in the face of that. Unless there is some exception.

Maybe it's just odd scientific experiments, it's not like we don't pluck animals up and mutilate them for whatever reason.

It's indeed, a more plausible theory than many others.
I have also this idea that maybe they didn't actually helped us, but maybe dumbed us down, since we have all this "junk" DNA, and a great percent of the brain that we don't use. Maybe they "locked" us down from the evolutionary point of view.
Or maybe we are their pool of fresh genes, and from time to time they come here and renew their blood, so to speak?
I don't know, but whatever they do, we wouldn't agree with that if we'd know, otherwise they would do it openly. I'm sure there are a lot of people who would agree to interbreed with them, if needed, or even to do some medical experiments, for a proper reward.
My gut feeling is that there is something more sinister than we'd like to know in this whole abductions story.
S&F for this thread.

Starfleet not only has the Prime Directive but also a rule to obey local law. Abduction of a human being on U.S. soil is a violation of U.S. Code Title 18 Section 1202. Maybe aliens are doing it, maybe people impersonating alients are, or maybe one of the debunkers' explainations is right.

Originally posted by stirling
I am not sure the sheep goats, horses and other odd animals conform to this need but could be wrong obviously.....
Cows and humans match fairly well, but the others no......
Unless they are building a whole flora and fauna for another world.............

I believe that's exactly what they are doing.
And i also think they are wanting the offspring to be the guardians and carers. i suspect that they are abducting or studying humans who have compassion, sensitivity and a natural ability to love and respect all things living.


love and harmony
Whateva

Thats a nice new agey sentiment, but I am not sure the greys are the custodians of life in this uuniverse, though they may well be working for God if you will....
As far as containers goes we could be containers for their larval young for petes sake...!
We see the numbers of experiencers growing with more abductees than ever thought possible....
Thousands even tens of thousands of mutilated cattle by now....
There are other possible abductees thaat rarely if ever get thought of, and that is the fifty thousand missing children in the USA every year as well as many more adults....
If the cattle are lifted into the air and taken why not a forty pound child?
it would be simple.
It occurs to me we are being systematically thinned bred and harvested sometimes.....
A turn around on the cattle mutes may be that they think we are the servant beings and the cattle who spend their lives in idle contemplation are the real intelligent beings...perhaps they are trying to understand the cattles telepathic control over us...thats why they take certain parts....the eye and cheek etc...

Originally posted by RSF77
You would agree that if aliens exist they have some sort of non-intervention policy with us, given they haven't openly made themselves known? Subversively trading genes between inferior lifeforms/species(?) would seem to fly in the face of that. Unless there is some exception.

Maybe it's just odd scientific experiments, it's not like we don't pluck animals up and mutilate them for whatever reason.

One doesn't follow the other...existence/non-intervention.

...or, an exception, amongst other exceptions?!

The OP makes the assumption (with all due respect to the OP) that, all abductions are conducted for the same reason (assuming also that abductions occur in a physical realm, or that they occur at all - are implanted memories to mask the reality).

Under the scenario that physical abductions/experimentation of animals is a matter of debate, and the question of implants aside, the apparent abduction of humans doesn't appear to be happening on any physical level (see the aforementioned implanted memories of abductees and witnesses). If this scenario is followed, the perpetrators could be said to be operating on a non-physical level, which would kind of preclude the use of physical material for non-physical means...unless, said material was needed to interact with our physicality.

We should make no assumption that nefarious purposes are not being used, albeit the implicit compliance of experiencers (at some level). In this sense, the 'non-intervention' clause is being fulfilled...

Akushla

reply to post by WhiteHat

White, dumbing down goes within the concept of shutting down the pineal gland. By an outside source.
It's not why do we need an appendic,because we can stand.
Rumour has it, the pineal glan CAN be a part of our 3rd eye. We don't know how to release it.
Plenty of info on search button on this topic. Then? The wilcoxes et al become the topic.
That's where esoteric idea's,science,religion and logic clash on ATS....Buuhaaa.
Gotta love it to be a member.. Idea's are a good thing.

I'm not so sure that there was early human gene manipulation when about 92% of our genes are the same as mice and 99% are the same as chimps. Which is why we experiment on them with much success, sadly.

If there are "abductions" (an emotive "us / them" term) then they (greys?) may be splicing our new genes into their own archaic genetic structure. I've no doubt that the Greys fiddled with their own genes and then became obsessed with the practice and now can't stop themselves.

Based on David Jacobs books (about Abduction) you could almost conclude that they are naive in that they plan to seed a perfect new world. He seems to think they are manipulating genes with the aim of taking over this planet stealthily - slowly introducing hybrids to live "like us". But that doesn't explain all the dramatic "end of the world" scenarios that abductees commonly recall.

I'm not sure what my own opinion is because choosing one POV on this subject often means precluding another.

I'm going out on a limb here, revealing things I don't put much investment of belief in and am embarrassed to share. But as someone who has had "abduction" type experiences, that is very much fitting with some of what my memories are of what I got from these experiences.

They did use a thought packet that translates into biological forms as "containers". They did see themselves as taking part in changes, evolutions, and seeding of forms.

The reason given was that we have souls, or some sort of non-physical being, that isn't limited to earth, or to the human form. That it goes through all sorts of forms, in many places. That goes for them, and us. We have been, or will be, in their containers, they in the ones we have right now, and the ones they had a hand in creating.
This is hard for me to put in words. Our current perception of them being so separate from us is illusion, (according to this view). We're all souls having experiences and trying on different forms, different experiences, within containers that have different "programs" of behavior and abilities.

I find myself thinking of the movie "eXistenZ", in which people have created virtual reality games they enter and find themselves within an environment and character that has some pre-programmed reactions to them. If this idea could be used as a metaphor, the beings we are calling aliens are somewhat like "game creators"?
But they are not doing it alone, we are doing it too, with them- our souls are, anyway.

But once we really enter our character (or container) we sometimes forget it is a game, and that we have an existance outside of it..... and even that we may have agreed with our friends before entering it that they'd come and wake us up at a certain moment to get on with the projects!

Originally posted by niceguybob
I can't find the source right now, but it's out there.
Man's DNA does mix with Apes DNA. There's a sequential gap that does not make mathematical logic, based on the other confirmed formulations.

If you can find it I'd be grateful. I can help out with this if you point me to this material.

The biosphere of Earth is so inter-dependant that it may be difficult to transplant some species to another planet without so many others

Perhaps abductions are more about understanding the immune system than genetics

Well I have read many different abduction stories online and read the Dulce material many times. Considering that the Grays have no reproductive organs and reproduce by cloning, maybe the purpose of their crossbreeding is to find a way to create their race with ours, with the hopes of getting a Gray with Human reproductive organs..? Just a theory.

Also I have read that Grays need genetic material to keep themselves alive (blood mostly), they use it as a food source.

As far as seeding goes, it seems possible, but why would they seed the planet, aid in us evolving, and never reveal themselves? Doesn't make much sense to me...

Just a thought. Interesting topic. S&F

-SAP-

OP I like your thinking a lot.

Something you can look at to support your theory is the evolution timeline right alongside the technology timeline.

For example evolution from microbial life form to ape took millions of years then from ape to human was a lot shorter timeline and this Carey's on and on you have to look for yourself it even baffles scientists how, it's like we got a helping hand.

That is a bit strange, it took millions of years for micorbes to evolve but apes to man was very quick. Also it was fast after the dinosaurs were wiped out that we had mammal life on the planet. Not soon after bipedal mammals as well. It is pretty interesting...

-SAP-