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Originally posted by jeichelberg
I do not know where all these videos are surfacing from...When I watched the coverage that day, all I saw was one person jump from the buildings...
One of the ways propagandists control you is through the use of fear.
Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
reply to post by septic
Are the stories of 911 "jumpers" true?,
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS!!!!!
edit on 26-12-2011 by LogiosHermes27 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Gorman91
reply to post by jeichelberg
I saw many. It's all a matter of perspective.
When someone says to something witnessed by over a hundred thousand people that it was fake, I question that person's mental state. It's just on principals. Nothing personal.
Originally posted by septic
Originally posted by LogiosHermes27
reply to post by septic
Are the stories of 911 "jumpers" true?,
FOR THE LOVE OF GOD...ARE YOU FREAKING SERIOUS!!!!!
edit on 26-12-2011 by LogiosHermes27 because: (no reason given)
If you read the OP, I make the point the jumpers can be considered part of the fear propaganda, and that my first reaction was to hold them in a kind of reverence, much as you are.
Why is it so important to believe hundreds of people jumped, and if the story was true, why would any single image be proved fraudulent?
edit on 26-12-2011 by septic because: (no reason given)
Text and if the story was true
Text and if the story was true
Originally posted by hooper
reply to post by septic
One of the ways propagandists control you is through the use of fear.
You sure? Control and fear do not go hand in hand. People do not act rationally or predictably when confronted with fear. Look at the propoganda of the nazis. Most of it was centered not around fear but around hatred and envy.
“Hitler learned to admire American propaganda through a young American expatriate who described to him, in glowing detail, how Americans enjoyed the atmosphere at football games. This American expatriate, with the memorable name of Ernst "Putzi" Hanfstängl, told the Führer how Americans could be whipped up into a frenzy through blaring music, group cheers, and chants against the enemy.”
Originally posted by Starwise
I have every newspaper published on 9-12 through 9-15-01.My Time Magazine has a full spread on all the pictures of these jumpers. Yes, they were real!
And if I were in the building suffering from the heat rising, I too would have jumped. I would rather free fall into oblivion and keep my eyes closed than burn alive!
Originally posted by Trexter Ziam
While the video in the OP does expose media fakery to illustrate their story - people DID in fact jump. How many I don't know; but, I spent the day of 911 and night of 911 and half of 9/12 online counseling a 12 year old who witnessed jumpers. He felt his parents had jumped. (Both of his parents worked there in janitorial services.)
At one point he said he saw a couple of people jump; at another point he said he saw several people jump. As a child, the terms couple, few and several were hard for me ... and I presume the same for this boy. So, at LEAST two people DID jump ... and that I can say for sure.edit on 26/12/2011 by Trexter Ziam because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by septic
Originally posted by Starwise
I have every newspaper published on 9-12 through 9-15-01.My Time Magazine has a full spread on all the pictures of these jumpers. Yes, they were real!
And if I were in the building suffering from the heat rising, I too would have jumped. I would rather free fall into oblivion and keep my eyes closed than burn alive!
Can you provide any of those images that are real? If you believe the story simply because you believe the pictures, let's look at the pictures, because honestly I have tried to put myself in their shoes, and I think I'd brave flames rather than certain death.
Originally posted by flexy123
You (OP) and some others make the mistake to assume we are dealing with a rational decision "whether to jump or not".
Again: ABSURD!
It's not a rational decision by a long shot - people are simply holding on to those ledges outside...literally up to the point where their hands/arms are SMOKING and on fire. (There are some pictures indicating some "jumpers" were very badly charred, basically down to the bones!)