Nearly 20% of women in the US are raped, study reveals

Originally posted by brokedown
20% of women ARE NOT victims of Rape, no matter how much you want that to be true, it is just another lie trying to divide us.

I'm sure you did not mean to write that... "no matter how much you want that to be true".

Let's be clear, one rape is one too many. And no one in their right mind wants a statistic like this which paints such a horrible picture of our society to be true.

Now, what kind of agenda do you think the study has exactly? They chose to over represent the occurrences of rape for what motive?

I'm really having trouble with this stance.

Let's say 10% of women in the U.S. have been raped... does that make it acceptable? 5%?

the Billmeister

Originally posted by GeorgiaGirl

Originally posted by brokedown
All I can say is B### S### !

In no way is 20% of the females in the US a victim of Rape.

I think you'd be surprised. Many (I'd almost guess that most?) don't discuss it with anyone at ALL. There is a huge feeling of shame accompanying it. Like it's our fault for putting ourselves into the situation that allowed it to happen.

There's also a tendency to overstate the "silent majority" argument. Many women who have been raped and didn't report it or speak out make the assumption that most other women have been raped and are just keeping silent like they were. When the majority of those silent are most likely silent because they have not been raped.

I think all rape statistics are inflated by organisations who are self serving, and feel they need to hype numbers to be relevant. I read also that some groups estimate over 10% of men(men, not boys) have been raped, that sounds ridiculous as well.

Originally posted by Billmeister

You bring up a point that I often touch on when discussing this topic... the actual capability of being aroused while violently attacking another human.

Sex is far more psychological than physical. Simple mechanical manipulation of organs is barely 10% of it.

People, men and women, have all sorts of connections, desires, biases and concepts in their heads which makes sex personal and unique for each of us.

These rapists have connected violence and power with sex. For someone who literally gets off on violence and power the victim fighting, screaming or crying feeds into this arousal. I should add here that this alone is not a bad thing. Consenting adults can perfectly safely engage in a seemingly abusive throw down wanted by all partners involved.

Even then each rapist is unique among rapists. The broad appeal might be the same, power, but the specific nuisances of each attacker are innumerable.

For good or bad sexual arousal in the human mind is limitless in specifics and complexity. When parties are consensual there really is no room for judgement in sex.

reply to post by GeorgiaGirl


Were you raped?

Let us look at this discussion from a different angle as well.

Let us say that the OP is correct for the sake of debate.


nationalatlas.gov...

According to Census 2000, 281.4 million people were counted in the United States — 143.4 million of whom were female and 138.1 million male.1 The former made up 50.9 percent of the population, compared with 51.3 percent in 1990.
Information on gender was derived from a question which was asked of all people. A question on the sex of individuals was included in all censuses since the first one in 1790.
This report, part of a series that analyzes population and housing data collected by Census 2000, presents the number who are male and female in regions, States, counties, and places of 100,000 or more and highlights comparisons with data from the 1990 census.2

Since the US is basically 50/50, male/ female, the OP would imply that 20% of males are rapeist.

Or that the 20% of females just happen on the same guy that is doing all the rapeing.

See how insane this idea of 20% of women are rape victims becomes.

Originally posted by Hydroman
Having said that, I wish a woman would rape me.

Yeah... You wish someone would throw you to the ground, rip your clothes off and enter your body without your consent... Typical big talk from someone who has never been raped.

Originally posted by Hydroman
Were you raped?

Have you ever raped a woman?

Originally posted by brokedown
Since the US is basically 50/50, male/ female, the OP would imply that 20% of males are rapeist.

A rapist doesn't just rape one woman. Many rape again and again. Your logic falls flat.

I can't understand why so many want to doubt these statistics... You sound a little too defensive... Why would anyone want to defend rape? I don't get that.

reply to post by JessopJessopJessop


Couldn't agree more with you.
I was so surprised when I was younger how many girls said that they were raped, by this or that. Then as I grew I noticed those same girls going out, getting drunk, making stupid decisions, and what would happen the next day after the stupid mistakes and heavy drinking? Oh no I must have been raped!
I even have friends that are labeled as a "sexual predator" because of those same reasons. Its just pathetic.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Yeah... You wish someone would throw you to the ground, rip your clothes off and enter your body without your consent... Typical big talk from someone who has never been raped.

As long as it was a woman. I made that distinction.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Have you ever raped a woman?

No. I've only been with my wife and never raped her. I have told her I was going to rape her though....but jokingly of course.

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
I can't understand why so many want to doubt these statistics... You sound a little too defensive... Why would anyone want to defend rape? I don't get that.

Wow, no one is defending rape by disagreeing with the statistics. True rape is disgusting and I don't think anyone here is defending it. Get off your high horse.

1 in 5 women in the US have been raped?
I call total bulls#@$.
No way..

Those numbers are false.... or the new definition of "rape" is along the lines of what Assange was charged with.

reply to post by Benevolent Heretic


Oh, and when I asked Georgia if she had been raped, I was genuinely concerned....not being a smartass, fyi.

Originally posted by BadNinja68
1 in 5 women in the US have been raped?
I call total bulls#@$.
No way..

Those numbers are false.... or the new definition of "rape" is along the lines of what Assange was charged with.

Watch out, we got a person here saying if you don't agree with the statistics, then you're defending rape.

reply to post by Billmeister


I must also say to you “Don’t go throwing it in reverse so fast”

This is your thread, you are the one who came on the scene with the 20% figure.

Don’t start trying to revise your own figure down to 10%or 5% now.

The FBI clearly states that .054 percent of women are a victim of Rape in 2010 and that this number has been decreasing year after year.

.054 percent is 1 women out of 2000 are the victim of rape, this is a HUGE difference from your figure of 400 out of 2000.
Why would anyone want to inflate these statistic, your guess is good as mine for that answer.

What I am stating is that the statistics you referenced in your thread ARE inflated to the point of busting the balloon.

So, you answer the question,

Why would someone want to inflate these numbers ?

So there should be at least 2 rapists who reply to this thread considering it is an American majority

www.cdc.gov...

On average, 24 people per minute are victims of rape, physical violence, or stalking by an intimate partner in the United States, based on a survey conducted in 2010.

Headline is outright lies, survey includes stalking and domestic violence ffs.

reply to post by eNumbra


Yeah, now we're getting warmer.

Originally posted by Hydroman
True rape is disgusting and I don't think anyone here is defending it.

Yet you trivialized it by saying you wish you would be raped... I suspect you'd have a different opinion had you ever been raped. I hope you understand that hearing someone say they wish to experience something that I've spent a lifetime overcoming (or trying to) is a little unsettling for me.

Originally posted by brokedown
reply to post by Billmeister

 

This is your thread, you are the one who came on the scene with the 20% figure.

Actually, I posted a BBC article which quotes the Center For Disease Control study results. And I have absolutely no idea as to what they would gain from skewing the statistics.
Granted, as with all surveys with limited populations I'm sure there is a margin of error.

So, you answer the question,
Why would someone want to inflate these numbers ?

I cannot imagine a reason, and that is why I ask... what reason could you possibly imagine, other than, perhaps they want to highlight a real problem in our society?

the Billmeister

Originally posted by Hydroman
reply to post by Billmeister

 

FYI, the Billmeister sounds like the name of someone who would rape people.

edit on 15-12-2011 by Hydroman because: (no reason given)

Umm... alright then.

For future reference, the addition of smileys in no way decreases the irrelevance of your post... in fact, I have noted a pretty direct relationship with the number of smileys and the irrelevance of post content.

THE BILLMEISTER

Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
Yet you trivialized it by saying you wish you would be raped... I suspect you'd have a different opinion had you ever been raped. I hope you understand that hearing someone say they wish to experience something that I've spent a lifetime overcoming (or trying to) is a little unsettling for me.

It was a joke, but to be honest there are some people who do enjoy that kind of thing. They even go and pay for it.

Not everyone enjoys my sense of humor, and I am sorry.