The danger of wearing amulets and purchasing antique mystical objects

Jinns? What a load of absolute twaddle. how come so many of you believe in such crap? Boogeyman bull#.

People invent this nonsense to help them face and explain the unspeakable depths of madness and insanity the human mind can sink to.

No human could do those things etc. etc. Yes they could. YOU just cant accept it.

Oh it's ok, A jinn made them do it. We can all sleep soundly.

Ridiculous hooey and childish superstition from the bloody dark ages.

Wake the **** up.

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It is in the interests of a lot of people to have as many people as possible believe as you do. It's good for business.

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Have you ever seen one, do they really glow red when you put them in water?

Originally posted by daaskapital
The definition of a jinn is:
any of a class of spirits, lower than the angels

The fallen watchers are the ones lower than the angels. These guys fell before the days of the Great Flood.

like how some spirits are attached to the last place they died,

Certain nephil spirits (Rephaim) can re-incarnate at unique geographical locations or in this case the place that they last died.

I was led to believe that Jinn's were a medieval attempt to understand the physics behind dust devils. After you've been riding your camel through a desert for months and suffering a bit of heat stroke, something like a dust devil is going to be pretty impressive. A big clue here is they're native to deserts !

Now if only they had understood convextion it would have saved a lot of silly posts hundreds of years later.

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Originally posted by LUXUS.
Unfortunately the amulets were not for good luck but instead had jinn attached to them.

superstitions are a dangerous thing.

maybe give them as much credit as say.. a 'hunch' but to truly believe in them is complete foolishness and ignorance.

how about scientifically investigating your hunch over a long term research project and then show your conclusions via a peer reviewed journal... as opposed to stating fact by simple hunches based on religious superstition..

Originally posted by Arsenalwa
reply to post by Hydroman

 

Your questions cracked me up throughout this thread, dude! Just had to say it

Why are you so interested in learning about all that though? You obviously don't believe much of it.

Just trying to figure out why THEY believe it, and if there's a good reason for me to believe. I did, once upon a time, believe in this stuff.

Originally posted by undo
the closer we get to creating intelligent AI that can learn from its mistakes, the more i realize that we are engineered organisms, fitted with various devices, such as sound, touch, smell, and light sensors, with memory storage units (brain), anti-virus programs (immune system), high impact cases (bones) with shock absorption (fatty tissues, muscles, tendons, ligaments), periphereal hardware for exploring environments (feet, hands, eyes, ears, etc) and software to use it efficiently (brain functions related to gathering data and storing it such as walking thru the woods, or swimming in a lake, taking a test, and so on), power cords (food goes in, gets translated into energy and distributed through out the mechanism). and on and on.

Those thoughts have crossed my mind as well, but that doesn't mean I buy it. It's just fun to think about. BTW, I'm a he, hence the name HydroMAN.

Originally posted by intrptr
reply to post by volafox

 

Thats a hoot. Men "without fear" are either liars or on adrenalin. Fear is a heathy emotion. Thats why we have it.
Fear of demons is proper as well. We are either protected from or bothered by them. Humans have very little real authority over good or evil (because we're human). Depending on our bent, one or the other may operate thru us or deliver us. People can't turn one hair white or black, what power can we possibly have over demons? Best we an hope to do is recognize (thru fear) that we are being afflicted and humbly pray for intervention and deliverance.

Some people do not live with Fear, despite what others may Believe about that. These people recognise it when it arises and see through the limitations it gives.. hence the fear dissipates. These people are fully aware that it is the uncontrolled Mind that creates the internal Fears we feel so strongly.. you can test that yourself easily.

Just think of something horrific to you and then notice the immediate uprising of negative emotions of Fear that fills you.. the mind creates the emotion. So those who are masters of their own mind move through fear when it presents itself so that they free themselves of such "issues".

One cannot speak about such Authority without knowing it from their own experience. Otherwise they are only offering Beliefs... and they are what Limits us.

"Humans have very little real authority over good and evil" .. not because we are humans, but because most still operate within the Good/Evil Duality and so have very limited perceptional skills for anything not physical.

Most have as yet not reached the understanding that Unconditional Loving Energy is the greatest power we have within us... in my experience there is no negatively motivated entities that can withstand the application of Unconditional Loving Energy.

Some of those prayers may be answered in ways Believers could not anticipate.

Here you will find mind blowing info from these Jinns

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Jinn are a creation of God Almighty (Allah) as we Humans and angels and animals, but they are living in another dimension, we can trespass this boundry but its forbidden normally. If you believed once check this out and i am attaching one more video here son you can start believing again, as if you wont consider and recognize your enemy then how you will prepare yourself?

As a muslim i thought I'd clear up all this stuff about Jinns/Demons etc.

The Jinn are a creation of God similar to Humans except that they live in a parralel dimensions to humans and we cannot see them but they can see us. Some can shapeshift and taken strang forms which we can see, some fly around (ufo's anyone?), others reside in residents and houses alongside people. They prefer dark, poorly maintained and dirty places. Some are good, they have religions and beliefs, some are evil and cause mischief. They can travel very quickly from place to place and live for hundreds of years.

Jinn possession: The Jinn can posses humans although generally they fear us, and our attitude towards them should not be one of fear as we have been given the ability to combat them and (if need be) even kill them. Humans can intentionally or unintentionally do things which attract them, they like dirty places, smoke etc. Some people (magicians) use the Jinn to help them perform black magic and even attack certain people or help them in other ways. The Jinn can cause harm to people, and can whisper thought in their hearts (like when a strange often evil though pops in your head and you're like how did I just think of that!), so they are often used to influence people.

In Places like Morroco there are entire markets dedicated to Magic and utilising the Jinn to put 'hits' on people or to otherwise disrupt families or cause disputes amongs people because of jealousy or something. Communicating and using the Jinn is an evil practice and stricly forbidden in Islam and is one of the most Major of sins.

Much of the paranormal activity - poltergiest, ghost stories, strage creatures, ufos etc can be attributed to the Jinn. Even sleep paralysis which used to happen to me, where you cannot move and feel something sitting on top of you often at night is where the Jinn is messing around with you. In Islam we have certain things which we can recite to put a stop to the Jinn. We should not fear them, although nowadays many people do. As the Jinn live for a long time, people often use them to tell fortunes and things like this because they have ways to find out things about you which no one else would know. All around us we have Jinn, one "shaytaan" or evil Jinn is appointed to every person, to encourage us towards doing bad things (like the bad angel tell you to do something you know is wrong) although we have angels around us too which encourage towards good, we have the freedom of choice to choose which path we take. Becuas of this they know things you would think no one else would know but the sorcerer or magician can ask the Jinn to find out information about you.

Many movie stars, singers etc are satanists because they communicate with the Jinn to help them in their goals in life. They believe they are in the know and have access to a power most normal people do not. The Jinn however never do something for free, they usually ask the person to commit an evil act, ie disbelief in god, human sacrifice, incest or other such things before they will offer their services.

I'll stop there but if you guys want any more info please let me know.

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I don't buy that, I'm sorry. What I would like to see is an Arab Muslim man, who speaks only Arabic, do this to an American person who has no understanding of Arabic. So when the Arabic man starts chanting, the Amercian person would have no idea what he was saying. Then, I'd like to see this American person start speaking perfect Arabic because the Jinn is speaking through him/her to the Arab Muslim. Then, we might have some proof.

If you have a video of that, let me know. Maybe I should go to a Muslim sheik, or whatever they are called, and ask him to do this to me?

Originally posted by Kamza
In Places like Morroco there are entire markets dedicated to Magic and utilising the Jinn to put 'hits' on people or to otherwise disrupt families or cause disputes amongs people because of jealousy or something.

Well, since most Muslims don't like our American rulers, why don't they put "hits" on them with the Jinn?

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I thought what you said was very interesting and would like to hear more. Thank you for posting.

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Unconditional Loving Energy is the greatest power we have within us...

All that "power" still can't turn one hair white or black...

Originally posted by Kamza
They prefer dark, poorly maintained and dirty places. Some are good, they have religions and beliefs, some are evil and cause mischief. They can travel very quickly from place to place and live for hundreds of years.

Why do they like dark, poorly maintained, dirty places? I thought they were cursed to the desert by Allah. When they die, what happens to them?

Originally posted by Sahabi
Jinn possession: The Jinn can posses humans although generally they fear us, and our attitude towards them should not be one of fear as we have been given the ability to combat them and (if need be) even kill them.

How would you kill one?

Originally posted by Sahabi
The Jinn can cause harm to people, and can whisper thought in their hearts (like when a strange often evil though pops in your head and you're like how did I just think of that!), so they are often used to influence people.

What is the purpose of whispering bad thoughts in our ears? What do they gain from that?

Originally posted by Sahabi
Many movie stars, singers etc are satanists because they communicate with the Jinn to help them in their goals in life. They believe they are in the know and have access to a power most normal people do not. The Jinn however never do something for free, they usually ask the person to commit an evil act, ie disbelief in god, human sacrifice, incest or other such things before they will offer their services.

Again, what do they gain from doing this? Energy? If so, what do they do with the energy?

Again, in case anyone missed it, show me an Arab Muslim speaking in Arabic to a person who speaks some other language with no knowledge of Arabic....someone who doesn't know what is going on. Then, show the Jinn speaking through the non-Arabic speaking person to the Arab Muslim in perfect Arabic. Do this, and you'd have some proof that something is going on.

Originally posted by Stormdancer777
reply to post by SaturnFX

 

All this mystical mumbo jumbo is simply people wanting to claim something is at fault beyond themselves and simple randomness of life.

No Saturn, it isn't coincidence or random, it happens to happen to often the positive and the negative.

It is removing responsibility and control out of your life and putting it on some random object. If you want to believe your bowl of fruit loops is making your life miserable, then fine..so be it...but chances are your tire went flat because it was old, your check bounced because you screwed up your books, and you stubbed your toe because your house is a mess...not because the magical bowl is hexing you.

But hey, believe what you want. I am pretty sure the only reason why I don't have a million dollars is because a italian gypsy put a curse on me and nothing to do with a lack of creative drive..lets me blame the universe verses invest in altering my habits.

Bad things happen to people...and good things...but I think its high time we stop demanding elves and trolls are behind it all and instead take responsibility for our surrounding. Remember, if you are blaming something else, you release any meaningful control for yourself.