Fountains of Methane 1000m across Erupt From Arctic Ice!

reply to post by R3KR


No, the green house effect is what makes Venus super hot and inhospitable to life. Venus is practically Earth's twin except for its thick atmosphere that makes it super hot.

The historical record shows we go through short periods where the planet heats up, but those are typically around 20k years, which is the timeline for our current warming period, but past warming periods have been over all warmer than most of the last 20k years.

www.divediscover.whoi.edu...

Now, however, we are entering a period where the Earth is warmer than it is believed to have been for several million years.

www.giss.nasa.gov...

Many past time periods have been simulated, both for the purpose of evaluating model capabilities and as a technique for studying the Earth's climatic evolution. Simulations of key periods during the last ice age commonly provide excellent climate change scenarios of large magnitude. If our interest, however, is in climates warmer than today, we must look back at least three million years, to the middle of the Pliocene epoch, to find a period in Earth history with global average temperatures more than a degree (Celsius) higher than the present.

Originally posted by cloaked4u
What's going on? SUN acting strange. Electromagnetic anomalies. Holes in atmosphere. POLES melting. METHANE gases being released in large quantities. EARTHQUAKES acting up more. Massive bird,fish die offs. NORWAY SPIRAL. SUNAMY'S. Larger storm systems creating havoc. Land masses sinking, sink holes. People going NUTS these days. I don't care who you are, things are definately changing. WHY? WHAT IS CAUSING THIS? It is getting worse year by year, you cain't deny it now. Something is DEFINATELY out of whack.

If this does not open your eyes, then you are definately hopeless. www.youtu.be... and www.youtu.be... , THE huge iceberg www.youtu.be... and also www.youtu.be... I HOPE you wake up now. IF NOT. forget this and continue on at whatever you were doing.

Originally posted by cloaked4u

Originally posted by cloaked4u
What's going on? SUN acting strange. Electromagnetic anomalies. Holes in atmosphere. POLES melting. METHANE gases being released in large quantities. EARTHQUAKES acting up more. Massive bird,fish die offs. NORWAY SPIRAL. SUNAMY'S. Larger storm systems creating havoc. Land masses sinking, sink holes. People going NUTS these days. I don't care who you are, things are definately changing. WHY? WHAT IS CAUSING THIS? It is getting worse year by year, you cain't deny it now. Something is DEFINATELY out of whack.

If this does not open your eyes, then you are definately hopeless. www.youtu.be... and www.youtu.be... , THE huge iceberg www.youtu.be... and also www.youtu.be... I HOPE you wake up now. IF NOT. forget this and continue on at whatever you were doing.

edit on 9-1-2012 by cloaked4u because: fixed links

Has anybody saved the poor polar bear yet that has been floating on that melting iceberg shown on TV a gogleplex, or infinity of nines, since the 1970's?

That's what I am truly worried about. That and cheap abundant fossil fuel energy. You know, so we don't all bleep-#%^$^%$^$&&%-ing starve to death on this planet.

Gotta wonder how much of this warm winter weather is due to methane releases in the Arctic Ocean.

Are these releases of Methane a new phenom? Odds are fairly high that this is the situation. Could they be having this much of an effect on climate this quickly?

www.time.com...

Great video from MSNBC on the topic & what two dudes are trying to do to stop it.

video.msnbc.msn.com...

Originally posted by poet1b
reply to post by Eurisko2012

 

That is old news, and debunked. The solar system is seeing heating in some areas, and cooling in others. The connection between industrialization and extremely wasteful energy usage, which only benefits the super rich, and global warming has a great deal more evidence.

We could solve our economic problems, and wasteful energy usage at the same time.

Seek the truth. Read the Heliophysics textbooks.
Stop ignoring the sun.

reply to post by Eurisko2012


I have already done the research. The Sun has been at a low level of activity for a while now, and is just now starting to transition to a state of higher activity. This means more acceleration to global warming.

People choose to believe what they want to believe.

An update on the initial (greatly distorted by the media) story. My good friend John Mason (a geologist) has interviewed Dr Natalia Shakhova:

www.skepticalscience.com...

Worth reading. If you like the truth

reply to post by Essan


I am not seeing how the media reports have "greatly distorted this report", unless you mean greatly under reported this situation.

Here what Dr Shakhova said in the interview.

www.skepticalscience.com...

NS: I believe that the non-gradual (massive, abrupt) emission mode exists for a variety of reasons. First, wherever in the World Ocean such methane outgassing releases from decaying hydrates occur, they appear to be torch-like with emission rates that change by orders of magnitude within just a few minutes. Note that there was no additional seal such as permafrost to restrict emissions for hundreds of thousands of years anywhere in the World Ocean. Imagine what quantity of methane has been stored beneath sub-sea permafrost if even now, when the permeability of permafrost is still limited, the amount of methane annually escaping from the ESAS is equal to that escaping from the entire World Ocean. Another important factor is that conversion of hydrates to free gas leads to a significant increase in the gas pressure. This highly-pressurized gas exerts a geological power that creates its own gas migration pathways (so-called “chimneys” within sediments). It is even more important to understand that the nature of the permafrost transition from frozen to unfrozen is such that this physical process is not always gradual: the phase transition itself appears to be a relatively short, abrupt transformation, like opening a valve. Remember that the gas “pipeline” is highly pressurized. There could be several different triggers for massive releases: a seismic or tectonic event, endogenous seismicity caused by sediments subsiding pursuant to hydrate decay, or sediment sliding on the shelf break; the shelf slope is very steep, and the sedimentation rates are among the highest in the ESAS. As for the amount that could possibly be released, this estimate represents only a small fraction of the total amount of methane believed to be stored in the ESAS (3.5% of 1400 Gt). Because these emissions occur from extremely shallow water, methane could reach the atmosphere with almost no alteration; the time scale of such releases would largely depend on the spatial distribution and capacity of the gas migration pathways.

What is obvious from reading the article is that a great deal more research needs to be done, to find the extent of these releases. We are spending a lot of money monitoring the sky for possible large meteor strikes, when we have a more dangerous ticking time bomb in the Arctic shelf.

The article points out that these pressurized methane pools are located near where there are also oil deposits, and the Oil Industry is marching ahead at full speed ahead to drill in these areas. That is insane.

Videos of 1000M ERUPTIONS? If this is real, they MUST be recording it. All I see is a stock photo of a mountain/lake and another one of a few bubbles under the ice.