Deadly blasts rock central Liege in Belgium

reply to post by pazcat


with so many injured it will become more.
a father was giving an interview earlier about how his son was injured in both eyes.... sadly lots of them will have permanent injuries

Originally posted by GypsK

Originally posted by Staafke
reply to post by GypsK

 

Nah, that's too public for a satanic sacrifice. They sacrifice children in some castle near the French border, forgot the name though.

edit on 13/12/11 by Staafke because: spelling

yeeeeea.... Belgium is not a good place for children.... with the satanists and priests and all
(pun intended ofcourse

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Nice one. I didn't have a good relationship with the village priest as a child. To say it in Dutch: "Hij had een pik op mij"

Originally posted by Viking9019
reply to post by detachedindividual

 

Why would there be ''far right cells'' across Europe? Anders was a left wing Zionist and he detested far right groups because he was pro Israel while far right wing groups aren't.

The far right aspect is the simplest label to categorize it under. While Anders may be considered a left wing Zionist, he still had clearly defined nationalistic motivations, which is another aspect of the traditional far right.

But as said, not everything is simply black and white, a nut case can take numerous political ideologies and mix everything up into nonsense to justify their insanity.

Lone gunman my ass:

www.telegraph.co.uk...
--Shots were fired across the square by gunmen posted on the rooftop of a bakery shop, with further shots heard later from across town.
--There is at least one dead and the attacker. Police are looking for another shooter.
-- Gaspard Grosjean has spoken over the phone to Telegraph TV. He says the first attacker was shot by the police and is now dead.

www.cnn.com...
The provincial governor's office initially said that police were searching for at least one suspect.(1 dead+1 suspect = 2)

www.dailymail.co.uk...
In the initial chaos, reports said up to three men had taken part in the attack, but the Interior Ministry later confirmed only one was involved, adding the incident was not terrorism-related.

www.bbc.co.uk...
Belgian media ... say several men threw grenades and fired on a crowd at a bus stop.
Some reports say one of the attackers is among the dead. Local media said another had been seized by police but gunfire was continuing.

www.spiegel.de...
The TV channel RTL-TVI reported three men were thrown grenades. This was stated by the police but so far neither confirmed nor denied. On the hunt for a suspected accomplice, it was several hundred meters from the Place Saint-Lambert came to a shootout between police and fugitives"...

www.abovetopsecret.com...
The latest is that there were three attackers, one killed himself by gunshot to the head, another was arrested and the third is still on the run.

cdnmo.coveritlive.com...
pic of handcuffed suspect?


pic of unexploded grenade


www.dailymail.co.uk...
--The police source said Amrani’s rucksack was ‘full of grenades’

Grenades have serial numbers.  They will have to trace where he got these weapons.  But of course they will try to avoid this question as long as possible.

GLADIO has reawoken in Belgium!

reply to post by starviego


Good post!
Sure it might not be a conspiracy, but its certianly following the trend of all these 'lone wolf gunman'.
I dont think people would get confused about gunman on a roof or people throwing grenades..
The reason I get suspicious is because I expect they will want to remove guns from around the world before economic crisis hits.

Originally posted by starviego
GLADIO has reawoken in Belgium!

Yeah, it makes you think, doesn't it...
As for the lone gunman story. Our country has a history of covering up the truth, sadly.

I no longer watch the mainstream news or tv in general (can't have one where I am now) and didn't realise this happened until my girlfriend texted me from outside the coutry, wondering if I was ok.
Been seeing quite some students gone up in smoke lately around where I am right now.. Bit this sure is something different and out of nowhere.
Sure hope the number of deaths won't go up any higher.

reply to post by starviego


That picture was taken two hours after the events if the time on the cellphone is correct, there could be several reasons for the handcuffed people, don't just asume....

If your from Belgium then you know that there where rumours about several shooters in the first hour, which is when the international media started reporting (and most never updated their stories) but they where corrected shortly after.

I'm sorry but in these sad events I don't believe for a sec that there is a conspiracy here....

Originally posted by detachedindividual

Originally posted by Viking9019
reply to post by detachedindividual

 

Why would there be ''far right cells'' across Europe? Anders was a left wing Zionist and he detested far right groups because he was pro Israel while far right wing groups aren't.

The far right aspect is the simplest label to categorize it under. While Anders may be considered a left wing Zionist, he still had clearly defined nationalistic motivations, which is another aspect of the traditional far right.

But as said, not everything is simply black and white, a nut case can take numerous political ideologies and mix everything up into nonsense to justify their insanity.

Actually in Anders Behring's case, his political ideology is pretty consistent and not nutcase at all. It all hangs together as a cohesive whole. Just because it doesn't fit on some predefined party ticket doesn't make it not cohesive. I'm not suggesting it to you. I am merely addressing misinformation.

His methods, well now that's totally up for debate as to how crazy it is.

You want conspiracy? I mentioned it in another thread. Large attack from an Islamic Terror group right now, in light of the Breivik case, is pretty freaking inconvenient. Therefore, making it into anything except that would be very desirable.

So, Nordine Amrani's name will be conveniently not used, and he'll be a "Belgium citizen" and not a "Moroccan Immigrant Citizen Criminal." Just like the honour killing here in Canada was done by "Montreal residents" and not "Fundamentalist Rich Afghanis."

Originally posted by starviego
the Interior Ministry later confirmed only one was involved, adding the incident was not terrorism-related.

"Not terrorism-related" , oh no ??
I thought this was exactly what terrorism is...

Anyway, great informative post

news.nationalpost.com...

Belgium’s prison service said Amrani had been released on bail last year after being put behind bars for arms and drugs offences, but was not aware of the killer being monitored by a specialist national terror threat agency.

He had previously been convicted for drug dealing and illegal arms possession, as well as for holding stolen goods and other crimes, said Daniele Reynders, the public prosecutor for Liege.

In September 2008 he was thrown behind bars for 58 months when police uncovered a weapons arsenal in his home.

They found 10 firearms and 9,500 gun parts along with 2,800 cannabis plants, but a prison official said Amrani was granted early release last year.

A weapons afficionado, he was said to be able to dismantle, repair and put together all sorts of weapons but was never linked to any terrorist act or network.

Reynders said there had never been the slightest hint he was unhinged enough to mount the kind of deadly attack he launched in Liege.

“At no moment in any of the judicial proceedings against him was there a sign of a disturbance,” she told a news conference.

Amrani had been summoned by police on Tuesday morning but never showed up.

The comments section is somewhat amusing on this article.


Also, he's gone from grenading and shooting up a Christmas Market to a Bus Station.

Ignore the market set up for Christmas. It isn't there. Turn thine eyes away.

maps.google.ca...,5.573791&spn=0.002514,0.004812&gbv=2&hq=Place+Saint+Lambert+s quare&hnear=Li%C3%A8ge,+Walloon+Region,+Belgium&t=h&vp6&z=18

A link so that you can see that the bus station is elevated next to a shopping district. Zoom in.

Originally posted by starviego

GLADIO has reawoken in Belgium!

I was thinking about it. Have you heard the news coming from Italy lately ? Far left factions have made headlines recently. They have made headlines in Germany too. Yesterday, the embassy of Greece in Paris has received a letter bomb... posted, mailed in Italy.
During the last weeks, southern France has suffered a serie of violent robberies with AK-47 and Uzis and several killed in the process.

Originally posted by Staafke

Originally posted by GypsK

Originally posted by Staafke
reply to post by GypsK

 

Nah, that's too public for a satanic sacrifice. They sacrifice children in some castle near the French border, forgot the name though.

edit on 13/12/11 by Staafke because: spelling

yeeeeea.... Belgium is not a good place for children.... with the satanists and priests and all
(pun intended ofcourse

)

Nice one. I didn't have a good relationship with the village priest as a child. To say it in Dutch: "Hij had een pik op mij"

edit on 13/12/11 by Staafke because: (no reason given)

Nice to find out who's also Belgian. Imagine if we were friends or colleagues and didn't know it. Either one of you could be my boss.

See you around...

reply to post by soulwaxer


Indeed soulwaxer, but like staafke said, belgium has its history to prove cover-ups

I'm thinking, mark dutroux( the political side) de bende van nijvel( the political side) even in our politics ( de octopus groep)

multiple conflicting reports with the eventual conclusion of one lone deranged gunman obviously disgruntled with everything and everyone? how often is this story ringing out lately? a little more then usual. a sign of the times.

if we go with the multiple attackers theory, then what is the motive and why the cover up?
it would reak of state sponsered terrorism, targeting a public market with ak's and grenade explosions to incite local hysteria and to develp a new psychological relationship to the possibility of terrorism in their community.

Originally posted by Manouche

Originally posted by starviego

GLADIO has reawoken in Belgium!

I was thinking about it. Have you heard the news coming from Italy lately ? Far left factions have made headlines recently. They have made headlines in Germany too. Yesterday, the embassy of Greece in Paris has received a letter bomb... posted, mailed in Italy.
During the last weeks, southern France has suffered a serie of violent robberies with AK-47 and Uzis and several killed in the process.

And there was one last week in Grimbergen (just outside of Brussels) involving shooting with kalasjnikov.

persinfo.logicinmotion.eu...:ramkrakers-vuren-op-politie-in-grimbergen-fotoreportage&catid=19:br ussel&Itemid=34

www.ibtimes.com...
"The mayor of Liege, Willy Demeyer, confirmed that three males tried to escape from the palace of justice, according to the main Flemish paper, De Standaard."

"Confirmed" is a pretty strong word. Though I doubt three escapees would be interested in a mass murder so soon after escaping. And where did they get the weaponry? Three men 'tried' to escape? Is this supposed to be coincidental with the killings? A very strange link.

Originally posted by yourmaker
if we go with the multiple attackers theory, then what is the motive and why the cover up?

Stampede the sheeple into even more gun-control, police-state control measures. Hype-up hostility to the immigrants, distracting attention from the NWO-controlled ruling class and the ongoing economic crisis.

Originally posted by GypsK
I live in Belgium, here are some facts

33 year old Nordine Amrani was the only shooter, he was convicted for growing 2800 canabis plants at his home and weapon posession in 2008 and a sex crime (no more details about the last), he was sentenced to 5 years in jail of which he did a third. Since his release he's been on some kind of parole (best way to compare it with US law system).
He had to report today but didn't show up. In stead he threw 6 granates in a crowded x-mas market and started shooting around.
His motives are not known yet.

There are 4 people death of which two are teenagers, one elderly woman and the shooter who shot himself.
About 123 wounded.


on a side note,
this is headline news in Belgium
and the article on second place today: 'Belgium hits the world news!' (tss tss so typical)


are those facts from the msm that also reported 2 3 or even four gunman?
or were u there to witness it?
how are these facts?? is what im trying to say here really...