Is Anyone Still Taking OWS Seriously?

"Still" taking it seriously? I never took these buffoons seriously in the first place. OWS has never been anything more than organized madness.

reply to post by Domo1


I am. Corruption is still running rampant in our government, and nothing has changed yet. They're still out there protesting and trying to actually make this country a better place. That's better than sitting here saying "OWS is soooo last month"

Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by dadgad

 

NRA doesn't. Are they trying to limit peoples access to guns? No. Do they show up at shooting matches and scream in the shooters eras to disrupt them? No. There are groups out there who do not try to force their beliefs on others. The NRA simply supports the second amendment, period.

A very simplistic answer focused only on your own paradigm. How about abortion? Aren't Libertarians trying to prevent abortion at all costs? Aren't they they preventing women to exercise their "constitutional rights"...their freedom to chose their lives etc.etc

Don't get me wrong, I am not a constitutionalist. That thing is just a piece of paper to me, I am just saying look at yourselves for once.

I have a feeling future protests will be violent and that they are inevitable.

reply to post by 547000


"Those who make peaceful revolution impossible make violent revolution inevitable"
-- JFK

reply to post by dadgad


I am pro-choice. Yes there are groups that try to force their views/beliefs on others, and I do not support any of them. The Constitution gives them the right to express their views, however it does not give them the right to force those views on others. This has been our downfall. We have allowed groups to force their views/beliefs on the rest of the population and we don't like it.

Originally posted by 547000
I have a feeling future protests will be violent and that they are inevitable.

They might not even be protesters, just random people throughout America taking out their anger. A LOT of random people.

Originally posted by haarvik
reply to post by dadgad

 

I am pro-choice. Yes there are groups that try to force their views/beliefs on others, and I do not support any of them. The Constitution gives them the right to express their views, however it does not give them the right to force those views on others. This has been our downfall. We have allowed groups to force their views/beliefs on the rest of the population and we don't like it.

But you have a picture of Ron Paul. You support Paul. You are a Libertarianist right.

Ron Paul is completely against abortion and does and will do everything to prevent the legalization of abortion. So there you have it. He is trying to limit others. He has to, in order to maintain his ideology.

cleanandsafeports.org...

The longshoreman and port workers support it, but legally they are barred from saying so/striking, etc.

reply to post by TupacShakur

They're still out there protesting and trying to actually make this country a better place.

One simple question...how?

What is their plan of action to make this country a better place?

I'd love to change the world, but I don't know what to do... So I leave it up to you....

Tax the rich, feed the poor, 'till there are no rich no more...

We've been here before...



Long, long time ago.....

History repeats.

It will die soon, and eventually come back in another form.

It is people, tired, vulnerable, gullible, exploitable and in some cases desperate enough to follow anything, or anyone with a message and hope for change that will never come, a handout they can dream of, a cause that really is not theirs, ultimate goals and objectives that are far beyond them....

Can they change the world?

No, but they can be changed inside, and most importantly, changed ideologically.

Occupy what?

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


Create enough public support for change that people get interested and their apathy ends, then do door-to-door ballots and elect two delegates from each congressional district to go to a convention in Philadelphia and draft a resolution for the writing of a specific list of greivances, to be ratified in July of 2012.

Generally.

But really, just like the protests about Vietnam, to change the DISCUSSION in the country, you have to do something to get attention to the problems. Change the discussion, you have a chance.

Originally posted by OutKast Searcher
reply to post by TupacShakur

 

They're still out there protesting and trying to actually make this country a better place.

One simple question...how?

What is their plan of action to make this country a better place?

Let me ask you. Isn't it presumptuous to expect them to have a clear solid and definite solution at this juncture? You may not be aware of it, but we live in a time of ideological near-death. OWS at this stage is the very voice of discontent. This is a start. From here it can grow, new idea's can be discussed. A platform has been created.

Originally posted by zanysami
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

Create enough public support for change that people get interested and their apathy ends, then do door-to-door ballots and elect two delegates from each congressional district to go to a convention in Philadelphia and draft a resolution for the writing of a specific list of greivances, to be ratified in July of 2012.

Generally.

But really, just like the protests about Vietnam, to change the DISCUSSION in the country, you have to do something to get attention to the problems. Change the discussion, you have a chance.

July 2012 huh...good luck with that. To me that just demonstrates the delusional thinking of OWS.


OWS is currently discussion the right to "occupy" more than anything else...how exactly is that going to change our country???

reply to post by OutKast Searcher


The Congress, The SCUM! Who else did you think I was referring to?

reply to post by dadgad


Yes, I expect grown ups to have a solution if they plan on complaining about something.

Complaining without having a solution is something a child does, complaining for the sake of complaining.

So if OWS wants to be taken seriously...they should stop acting like children.

Originally posted by Domo1
Just want to see what people are thinking at this point. It seems to me the movement is almost completely out of steam, which is pretty much exactly what I thought was going to happen. At this point do you feel that anything has really been accomplished? Certainly some things have been, but the amount of hype seems to have been completely unwarranted.

I really think it was a lack of message that killed it off. Argue all you want but the average American seemed to feel the occupiers were clueless, scummy and self entitled dirt bags. I would support a new group, with a clear and defined message as long is they didn't illegally protest in public parks.

I'm willing to bet the majority of americans could give a hoot about OWS movement. It wasn't even a protest.

If there would ever be another moment to rise up against the "elitist" it should be a massive protest positioned at one point and focusing on the "End of the Fed". Nothing more. Everything else would be a waste of time.

Having a stupid OWS in every city was as dumb as the people who were protesting. I'm mean that's why hippies never get respect. Your just plain dumb. Talking about No vision what's so ever. You would think modern hippies would learn from the 60's,, Jesus,,,,,It was totally obvious to me that the originator of OWS was never intending to positively solve anything. Just to make a mess out of nothing.

So again the movement should be against the "Fed". And everyone from all over the world should migrate to one point and protest the Fed. If all the people OWS ,of every city , were to position themselves at one destination , the amount of attention would have been priceless. Obviously that didn't happen so the OWS was a complete waste of TV time. I say TV time cause I could care less about the actual OWS lazy protesters, I'm pist that I wasted my precious time watching hippies march like sick demented cattle.


And I am stereotyping when I say hippies. Not everyone in OWS were actual hippies. But if you happen to be there cattling around ,then well, your a hippie in my book.

reply to post by dilly1


There's more to the problems with this country than simply ending the Fed. That's definitely one of the issues, but it's one of many.

Originally posted by TheImmaculateD1
reply to post by OutKast Searcher

 

The Congress, The SCUM! Who else did you think I was referring to?

OH...ok.

So you want Congress to listen to your demands...but you refuse to be part of the political process.


Politicians care about one thing...votes...if you claim you are not going to be part of the "corrupt" political process...and not vote...what motivation does a politician have to listen to you or act on your demands???

reply to post by dadgad


Actually, even though he is against it, he also believes that this decision should be up to the states to decide, not the federal government. I support Ron Paul because he supports the very fabric which defines our country, specifically the Constitution. He supports ending the fed, he supports actually balancing the budget. He is for small government, which was the intention of our founding fathers. I don't see how any red blooded American can be against him.