Should the troops be pulled out of Iraq?

Will it leave a vacuum for the radicals and extremists to take over an make another afghanistan or greater Iran.

Im in favour of them staying but would like to hear other views on the matter. cheers

Immediately.

13 have been killed since Monday.

Thousands are amputees.

The longer we stay there the more terror groups are going to spring to life.

This oil-driven, unplanned disaster is a disgrace to the Twin Towers.

PS...where's Bin Laden?







[edit on 4-10-2004 by bushblows]

I agree get the soliders home!

As badly as Bush may "blow", pulling out now would cause greater harm than good.

There really are Iraqis trying to make a go of this situation and build a country.
If the US forces were to leave anarchy would ensue and many more inocents would die.

Originally posted by bios
If the US forces were to leave anarchy would ensue and many more inocents would die.

We need to stay because we left in the 1990's before the job was done and that is why the Iraqi people do not trust us. If we leave again we will make more enemies than we already have.

I am not on the firing line but neither are you. Don't become an armchair quaterback and dictate politics. Right or wrong he are there and we must stay the course for our own survival. We lost thousands of lives when our troops stormed the beaches of Normandy. This was not done to free the French from German occupation but to defeat the entire Nazi war machine. We fought a political machine just as we are doing now. Muslims want World Domination, sound familiar.
We were attacked on our shores by the same Muslims extremist that are in Iraq and throughout the globe. These Muslims are in Africa, Maylisa, Phillipines, Russia, and Spain. I have obmitted many other countries for the list is to lengthly.
If you have no understanding for geopolitics don't let your emotions rule your opinions. The Muslims take no prisoneers, so don't become an enabler of there unjust cause.

We can't pull out of Iraq. We need to stop the cease fire stuff and get down to business. Iran and Syria are next folks. Any military mind can see that this is just the beginning.

Originally posted by duncanidaho
We can't pull out of Iraq. We need to stop the cease fire stuff and get down to business. Iran and Syria are next folks. Any military mind can see that this is just the beginning.

i agree 100%!!! Iran and Syria are next, but i dont think the US will take on both of them. it will probably be USA vs Iran and Israel vs Syria. any thoughts?

I dont think we should have ever went into Iraq, but now that we are there we cannot back out. That would only cause more problems. Terrorism is still at a high in Iraq with US forces in it. The Iraqis will not be able to defend themselves without us.The US soldiers that died have died for no reason if we back out and let the rebels take back Iraq.

Originally posted by flycatch
I am not on the firing line but neither are you. Don't become an armchair quaterback and dictate politics. Right or wrong he are there and we must stay the course for our own survival. We lost thousands of lives when our troops stormed the beaches of Normandy. This was not done to free the French from German occupation but to defeat the entire Nazi war machine. We fought a political machine just as we are doing now. Muslims want World Domination, sound familiar.
We were attacked on our shores by the same Muslims extremist that are in Iraq and throughout the globe. These Muslims are in Africa, Maylisa, Phillipines, Russia, and Spain. I have obmitted many other countries for the list is to lengthly.
If you have no understanding for geopolitics don't let your emotions rule your opinions. The Muslims take no prisoneers, so don't become an enabler of there unjust cause.

hahahaha...

I commute into NYC everyday, my friend.....

New Yorkers know all about "being in the line of fire"

thankfully we aren't in as abysmal a situation as our troops, though....

if you're so gung ho why not enlist for Iraq?
or at the very least....relocate to NYC and commute to work on a subway
daily...New Yorkers love tough talkin' suburbanites...

Don't be an enabler for the muslim extremist cause!!
Move to NYC....
Or join the Marines...

You can't talk tough on the internet forever now, can you?






[edit on 7-9-2004 by bushblows]

I think they should be pulled out after the elections or maybe a month or two later.

For those who want them to stay longer, i would like to ask how much longer?

If there is the same level of violence two years from now, should they stay?
How about after five years or even ten years?

To leave now woul only give power to those wanting to destroy us. We can not leave, for our work is not done. We will be in Iraq for many more YEARS, untill we see that Iraq is a stable democracy.

Originally posted by DJAghetto

Originally posted by duncanidaho
We can't pull out of Iraq. We need to stop the cease fire stuff and get down to business. Iran and Syria are next folks. Any military mind can see that this is just the beginning.

i agree 100%!!! Iran and Syria are next, but i dont think the US will take on both of them. it will probably be USA vs Iran and Israel vs Syria. any thoughts?

We will not let Isreal get involved in anything other then an airstrike to destroy Irans nuclear facility. To let them get involved would bring an even greater Jihad the we as America would ever face alone.

As much as I'd like to see the U.S. leave Iraq, I don't think it would be a good move because if we left Iraq as a country with no infrastructure, government, or society, it would become even more of a hotbed for terrorist activity. Leaving Iraq without handing over power to any sane, non-extremist would result in a haven for terrorist groups to grow un-checked. It's sort of ironic how before the war, Iraq had nothing to do with terrorists, but now Iraq has a terrorist attack against U.S. troops almost everyday.

P.S. Flycatch, could you stop refering to terrorists as muslims? Not all terrorists are mulsims, just look at the IRA and Timothy McVeigh.

Originally posted by AntiPolitrix

Originally posted by bios
If the US forces were to leave anarchy would ensue and many more inocents would die.

We need to stay because we left in the 1990's before the job was done and that is why the Iraqi people do not trust us. If we leave again we will make more enemies than we already have.

Seems this is one of the few times Anti and I agree. Bush Sr. pulled everyone out before allowing stabilization of the area and resulted in local retaliations from Saddam to those who nolonger had our backing.

If we remove all our troops now the area will fall into a massive Cival war and result in a Theocracy who hates the USA, the Anti-USA setiment would also be shared by EVERYONE there and it would become a center for Anti-American Terrorist recruitment... even more than it already is.

The only sane solution would be to work VERY hard to rebuild relations with the UN, slowly remove our troops as we replace them with UN troops so that the country is not considered to be occupied by anyone. People will say that this is asking permission to defend ourselfs but that is a total BS mindset, we are not asking permission, we need to be asking for the world to join us for the greatter good. We need to acept the fact that this is not a situation we should be handeling on our own.

Wraith

immediatly, as far as im concerned we should be more concerned about our territory then others, kind of like nice guys finish last, time to stop being "nice" and helping others, if people wont appriciate what weve given to them then hell with it, and no i dont mean the war i mean the billions of dollars of aid we give alot of countries, cut it off and see if they wanna bitch then.

aside form that time to get alternative fuel ASAP and then we will see how many of these terrorist will exist when they have no money

the problem is mr. bush is all about his damned oil, matter of fact he made more money then God with his damned oil biss.

thats my 2 cents, no im not trying to be racist/prejudice etc. but im tired of people gaining at our expense and bitching about it.

Originally posted by DJAghetto

Originally posted by duncanidaho
We can't pull out of Iraq. We need to stop the cease fire stuff and get down to business. Iran and Syria are next folks. Any military mind can see that this is just the beginning.

i agree 100%!!! Iran and Syria are next, but i dont think the US will take on both of them. it will probably be USA vs Iran and Israel vs Syria. any thoughts?

With people like above, no wonder why the world now consider US the No. 1 enemy to world stability and peace. Live by Sword, Die by Sword.

Please enjoy staying and hospitality in Iraq and wage wars against Syria, Iran, North Korea, and China, Russia. In this way, you can ensure US empire be flushed down the sink much sooner.

truth is, if the coalition bails out, the Iranians would be in there in a heartbeat, haha, what a fine scenario that would be.

we are in Iraq to stay, i would bet, 50 years give or take 10.

Originally posted by Zach
immediatly, as far as im concerned we should be more concerned about our territory then others, kind of like nice guys finish last, time to stop being "nice" and helping others, if people wont appriciate what weve given to them then hell with it, and no i dont mean the war i mean the billions of dollars of aid we give alot of countries, cut it off and see if they wanna bitch then.

aside form that time to get alternative fuel ASAP and then we will see how many of these terrorist will exist when they have no money

the problem is mr. bush is all about his damned oil, matter of fact he made more money then God with his damned oil biss.

thats my 2 cents, no im not trying to be racist/prejudice etc. but im tired of people gaining at our expense and bitching about it.

Actualy it is Bush's Dad who made all the money from Oil... Duhbya has yet to EVER successfully run any business venture. In fact his work history consists of positions given to him or bought for him by his father.

Wraith

o well he still likes his oil...

US can not withdraw from Iraq, and US can not win in Iraq. What's the best way to describe this situation? Vietnam or what?