Obama: Limited Gov't That Preserves Free Markets 'Doesn't Work. It Has Never Worked

Obama doesn't care much for the founders of the country he governs, but he does appear to care a great deal about Lenin and Stalin.

Even though independent reports have found that Obama has spent over a million dollars in legal fees to conceal all of his school records (high school, college, and law school), there are plenty of other facts of history that sufficiently prove his anti-American idealism.

There are multiple reasons why no one has stepped up to say they even broke bread with Barry during those school years. It's also interesting that researchers have recently uncovered the scholarships he accepted for non-American students (if he wasn't a non-US citizen, then accepting the money was fraud). There are so many intriguing pieces that we can't seem to put together because the media (all of the media) are complicit in concealing his background.

reply to post by Misoir

He is totally right. But you people here that have chosen to blame the government for everything that is evil simply won't understand this.

All you want to do is blame the people in power for you misery and recite 300 year old rhetoric.

I respect Obama for having the courage to say this. I just hope it will strike some sense into people.

The only solution to this global crisis, which is in my opinion nothing but the crisis of capitalism, can be found in more socially grounded ideologies. The times of doing whatever you please shall come to an end soon or later, it has to be reconsidered.

In a way I compare people here to the Israeli authorities denying any responsibility for the destruction of the Palestine home land. It's always someone else his fault.

"The legitimate powers of government extend to such acts only as are injurious to others. But it does me no injury for my neighbour to say there are twenty gods, or no god. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg. " - Thomas Jefferson

"The lessons of paternalism ought to be unlearned and the better lesson taught that while the people should patriotically and cheerfully support their government, its functions do not include the support of the people. " - Grover Cleveland

"The men and women of this country who toil are the ones who bear the cost of the Government. Every dollar that we carelessly waste means that their life will be so much the more meager." - Calvin Coolidge

I'm sure that when Calvin Coolidge and Grover Cleveland were signing the declaration of independence with Thomas Jefferson, they knew something like this could happen...

WHY HAS OBAMA FORSAKEN THE FOUNDERS?!?!?!

Seriously though, the hate is just roiling from you guys. I wish I could understand it. Blaming Obama for where our country is at, is like blaming the soldiers for being in Afghanistan. They aren't there by choice and they sure as hell would rather be somewhere else.

Misplaced blame is like a hobby for some people. Keep up the good work!

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Don't worry, there's plenty of treason and treachery and incompetence to go around. I hold Harry Reid, Nancy Pelosi, Maxine Watters, and Barney Frank completely accountable. Oh yes, Charlie Rangel and quite a few others, even some Republicans.
In addition, there's a few unelected czars and some nasty appointees, ghosts of past and present, Geithner, Bernanke, Paulson, a bunch of Goldman Sachs people, to name just a few.

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Looks like he's going after Ron Paul now, not Gingrich. Maybe he knows something..

S&F there OP, give 'er a bump! I want some of the pheromones they spray on this @ssclowns suit.

I'd like to be able to say that this happens only in America and that the disease is localized and can therefore be contained and dealt with, but it doesn't. It's happening everywhere, you got the ObummerBot and we got ZombieBot in Canadakastan to your north. In Europe the jugglers are running rampant, in Africa more petty despots in clown suits and then we got the better red than dead bunch in Asia. IMF bankers are being anointed (or is it appointed) as the leaders of countries, WTF is up with that? There is no democracy or rights in a corporation. Since the governments are corporations and many are now being run by corporate lackies, I guess there's been a hostile takeover.

How any of these meat puppets can get away with the crap they do is beyond comprehension. I look at the US and I know the government there is trying to take over Canada and actually, they are well on their way with the help of our traitors in parliament. The same thing has been happening in Europe and it is starting in South America, Africa and Asia.

But what I don't understand is how you Americans can put up with this horsesh***t? I expected to see full scale revolution a year ago, but it hasn't happened. I expected to see something like the French revolution. I've had the popcorn and the 1 gallon slurpie sitting here for a while now.

Representative government has never worked properly. It's too easy to buy off people when they are all in one place. It's a sad state of affairs...

Cheers - Dave

Originally posted by Misoir
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I am merely speculating here so do not assume it to be any more than that but perhaps his big reason for disliking Great Britain stems from his familial past in Kenya which was a territory of the United Kingdom. If you recall, Kenya sought independence from the Kingdom of Great Britain and Northern Ireland around the same time his father had come of age. So an obvious anti-British sentiment could have been transferred down to him from his father, even without his father being present in his life.

How could that be? Think about if you hardly knew your father yet believed strongly in your ancestry, which would usually mean you go along with the feelings at the time. Factor into that the staunchly anti-Western view of the university campuses across America that lasted throughout the ‘60s and ‘70s, I mean he was associated with a man from the Weather Underground.

Add to that the staunch hatred, which I believe to be envy, of the WASP’s which was quite prevalent throughout that time in America while he was in university, especially among the radical groups he was associated with. These people were associated with wealth, status, and had a firm control over the country since they were the most established ones here.

WASP = White Anglo-Saxon Protestant

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I have heard that speculation before, so I believe you are right on. Heck--his book was called "Dreams FROM My Father". Obama is anti-British, and it's definitely FROM his father.

And you are also right that he surrounded himself with people who hate America and all it stands for. Just look at his Weather Underground BFF.

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The question is... Is Obama really any more of an arrogant radical jackass than his predecessor?

The answer is....YES.

Watch him. Notice his mannerisms. The way he looks down on people as he is speaking to him. His body language speaks volumes.

Bush had his issues, that's true. But he wasn't like Obama in the sheer arrogance department.

You know who worries me, though? Newt. I see that arrogance in Newt.

I thought Bush was to blame.

Originally posted by dadgad
He is totally right. But you people here that have chosen to blame the government for everything that is evil simply won't understand this.

All you want to do is blame the people in power for you misery and recite 300 year old rhetoric.

I respect Obama for having the courage to say this. I just hope it will strike some sense into people.

The only solution to this global crisis, which is in my opinion nothing but the crisis of capitalism, can be found in more socially grounded ideologies. The times of doing whatever you please shall come to an end soon or later, it has to be reconsidered.

In a way I compare people here to the Israeli authorities denying any responsibility for the destruction of the Palestine home land. It's always someone else his fault.

edit on 7-12-2011 by dadgad because: (no reason given)

What ideology is more socially grounded? Socialism?

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by dadgad
He is totally right. But you people here that have chosen to blame the government for everything that is evil simply won't understand this.

All you want to do is blame the people in power for you misery and recite 300 year old rhetoric.

I respect Obama for having the courage to say this. I just hope it will strike some sense into people.

The only solution to this global crisis, which is in my opinion nothing but the crisis of capitalism, can be found in more socially grounded ideologies. The times of doing whatever you please shall come to an end soon or later, it has to be reconsidered.

In a way I compare people here to the Israeli authorities denying any responsibility for the destruction of the Palestine home land. It's always someone else his fault.

edit on 7-12-2011 by dadgad because: (no reason given)

What ideology is more socially grounded? Socialism?

Not necessarily and what is socialism exactly? (according to you)

Originally posted by dadgad

Originally posted by ThirdEyeofHorus

Originally posted by dadgad
He is totally right. But you people here that have chosen to blame the government for everything that is evil simply won't understand this.

All you want to do is blame the people in power for you misery and recite 300 year old rhetoric.

I respect Obama for having the courage to say this. I just hope it will strike some sense into people.

The only solution to this global crisis, which is in my opinion nothing but the crisis of capitalism, can be found in more socially grounded ideologies. The times of doing whatever you please shall come to an end soon or later, it has to be reconsidered.

In a way I compare people here to the Israeli authorities denying any responsibility for the destruction of the Palestine home land. It's always someone else his fault.

edit on 7-12-2011 by dadgad because: (no reason given)

What ideology is more socially grounded? Socialism?

Not necessarily and what is socialism exactly? (according to you)

ok not necessarily socialism. Ok what's left. Communism, Sharia Mixed, oh wait we ALREADY have a mixed economy with all those components except Sharia.


There's one alternative left....the Gold Standard which we have been off for some time. We can try going back to barter too. I can trade you a sheep for a goat, or a cow for eggs.
Actually there are some barter companies in existence, but they usually want some cash.


Now what was that 300 yr old rhetoric you were talking about? Oh you mean the Constitutional Republic with all that Bill of Rights stuff? It's not quite 300 yrs yet by normal math.

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The problem with Germany is the EU. How does it feel to have other countries politician's making decisions on where and how to spend your countries money? Germany has come a long way but now they are tied to a failing collection of nations. All for the greater good! Here in the US we get the same line except it's our elected officials who spout it and there is 1 figurehead elected by the whole who has the final yay or nay.

I would join everyone and support the free market and bash Obama if we had a free market. The truth is we do not have one. The market today is controlled by huge corporations who are often in collusion. Sure, it may look like competition when you go shopping due to the wide variety of brands, but most are made by a few huge mother companies who use the brands of the companies they bought out. The free market is simply a myth today. It doesn't exist.

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Hey Obama, you know what else doesn't work?
Giant government that regulates businesses causing businesses to spend money getting their people into the government to relieve regulations then destroying the country because those people are corrupt fools that aren't good at doing anything that doesn't benefit the corporation they work for. AKA Capitalism transformed. into corporatism.

Solution. Kick all the corporate shills out of office, make an amendment that makes it illegal for lobbyists, corporations, unions, and PAC's to contribute to candidates campaigns. Only allow private citizens to contribute a certain amount.

Notice how this is being said to students and educators?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE PICTURE THAT IS BEING PAINTED?!

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The middle class is an abomination, it is not a natural force in a capitalistic society...it is a socialist theory that strikes against the very nature of economics

it is also a good thing...and the founding fathers seen that..hense why they gave the federal government the ability to regulate commerce in order to keep a middle class verses the natural course of free market capitalism..aka, corporatism have and have nots.

Oh Misoir, they truely did brainwash you into putting false words into mouths in order to serve corporatism. What your waving the flag for has absolutely nothing to do with "founding fathers" retoric, it has everything to do with protecting the lesser person from the giants and their tendency to thump and destroy economys.

The corporatists are in full swing to gain back (they never lost anything, lets be honest...rather to push forward) their stranglehold on all the wealth. Keep letting the programming seduce you..its easier to jump for nonsense propaganda with false points and envoking the "founding fathers" for whatever corporate slant your trying to make. Simply put...your wrong, and either your being intentionally dishonest, or have truely become blind to your own supposed newfound populist illusion (brought to you by Goldline).

btw, they hiring?

Originally posted by Blarghdt
Notice how this is being said to students and educators?
DO YOU UNDERSTAND THE PICTURE THAT IS BEING PAINTED?!

Yes, POTUS Is furthering the Progressive Agenda for a whole new crop of youth who do not have a clear picture of the insane policies of the Progressive era due to the Progressive revisionist history and the Progressive Marxist hatred for America and the Bourgeois Capitalists.

Oh my...

Oooh my oh my oh my..

"they" aren't even trying to keep their plans a secret anymore.

Most of our leaders and congress would be in JAIL if the didn't have their titles to back them up.

I've always believed that Obama was an out of the loop president that was a part of the elitists agenda, a figure head that didn't really know what was going on behind the scenes..well my opinion is changing.

I'm glad though, that so many people are finally waking up and seeing what america is being turned into by these corporate-loving, banker bailing, constitution stomping elitists.

The man is saying that the founders were wrong, and that government needs to have its' hand in everything...and we just sit here and listen..