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Originally posted by Alexander_Supertramp
reply to post by Alexandra9
I was responding to the statement that "The Earth is self-aware." I won't comment on whether it's alive or not as I'm not scientifically qualified to make a statement of what counts as 'life' or not....but I can comment on something being self-aware, as I myself am self-aware, and I know what it means to be self-aware. If the Earth were self-aware, wouldn't it have the capacity to act? If not, that not only sucks, but we'd have no viable evidence to make such a claim. As of now, the only way we can determine if something/someone is self-aware is based on actions. If the Earth can act, then why doesn't it? Wouldn't it try to alleviate itself of the poison that is humanity? We are destroying Earth, so would a self-aware being that can act allow itself to be destroyed by parasitic organisms? That is why I said the OP's claim makes no sense.edit on 8-12-2011 by Alexander_Supertramp because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Alexander_Supertramp
reply to post by Alexandra9
I was responding to the statement that "The Earth is self-aware." I won't comment on whether it's alive or not as I'm not scientifically qualified to make a statement of what counts as 'life' or not....but I can comment on something being self-aware, as I myself am self-aware, and I know what it means to be self-aware. If the Earth were self-aware, wouldn't it have the capacity to act? If not, that not only sucks, but we'd have no viable evidence to make such a claim. As of now, the only way we can determine if something/someone is self-aware is based on actions. If the Earth can act, then why doesn't it? Wouldn't it try to alleviate itself of the poison that is humanity? We are destroying Earth, so would a self-aware being that can act allow itself to be destroyed by parasitic organisms? That is why I said the OP's claim makes no sense.edit on 8-12-2011 by Alexander_Supertramp because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Stratus9
reply to post by Sly1one
All of your photobucket images failed because photobucket has turned into a bunch of greedy thugs who will let you post images and they last a day until blocked by Pb with a request for you to upgrade to paid.
Try IMGUR.com
Originally posted by Nikkithegreat
First of all you say that this idea has in no way been planted into you whatsoever, its what you came up with alll by yourself. Wrong. I don`t even blame you for thinking this but let me explain. MOST of the time, when you go about your hectic daily routine of life your SUBCONSCIOUS mind is active. This means, symbols, conversations, trigger words, ideas, pictures, even beliefs are entering your brain with no awareness and no filter.
Enough said but just for fun, lets go further. This gaia earth being alive idea is in no way new and i grantee you have heard if from somewhere else before. You might agree with the ideas but this alone in combination with your unaware subconscious can completely hijack what you believe to be reality and also what you believe to be YOUR thoughts and not the idea of others.
Secondly, you wanted proof that you were missing that i didnt enlighten you with. Great questions and i will provide you with that.
is earth alive?
No.
the earth does not make itself grow. it get bigger over time due to "cosmic dust" and meteors that fall on it, but it does not make itself bigger
The earth does not consume energy. If there was NOTHING living on earth, the earth would GIVE OFF energy, not consume energy.
The earth does not move itself around. The earth moves through space because of gravitational fields which in turn define ORBITS. The earth cannot choose where it wants to go.
The earth does not reproduce itself. there is no "Mama earth" and "Papa earth". There are no "baby earths".
Originally posted by Nikkithegreat
Originally posted by Alexander_Supertramp
reply to post by Alexandra9
I was responding to the statement that "The Earth is self-aware." I won't comment on whether it's alive or not as I'm not scientifically qualified to make a statement of what counts as 'life' or not....but I can comment on something being self-aware, as I myself am self-aware, and I know what it means to be self-aware. If the Earth were self-aware, wouldn't it have the capacity to act? If not, that not only sucks, but we'd have no viable evidence to make such a claim. As of now, the only way we can determine if something/someone is self-aware is based on actions. If the Earth can act, then why doesn't it? Wouldn't it try to alleviate itself of the poison that is humanity? We are destroying Earth, so would a self-aware being that can act allow itself to be destroyed by parasitic organisms? That is why I said the OP's claim makes no sense.edit on 8-12-2011 by Alexander_Supertramp because: (no reason given)
how can something have self awareness if it is not alive. This discussion is going reallllly downhill. Were not in alice in wonderland. Something can not be conscious and self aware without being alive...
The sun is creating the gravity that is holding earth in its solar-orbit. Just as Earth's gravity keeps you and I down here stuck on earth. As much as you would like to think you have "freedom of motion" you don't.
Originally posted by SirTFiedSkeptic
Originally posted by Nikkithegreat
Originally posted by Alexander_Supertramp
reply to post by Alexandra9
I was responding to the statement that "The Earth is self-aware." I won't comment on whether it's alive or not as I'm not scientifically qualified to make a statement of what counts as 'life' or not....but I can comment on something being self-aware, as I myself am self-aware, and I know what it means to be self-aware. If the Earth were self-aware, wouldn't it have the capacity to act? If not, that not only sucks, but we'd have no viable evidence to make such a claim. As of now, the only way we can determine if something/someone is self-aware is based on actions. If the Earth can act, then why doesn't it? Wouldn't it try to alleviate itself of the poison that is humanity? We are destroying Earth, so would a self-aware being that can act allow itself to be destroyed by parasitic organisms? That is why I said the OP's claim makes no sense.edit on 8-12-2011 by Alexander_Supertramp because: (no reason given)
how can something have self awareness if it is not alive. This discussion is going reallllly downhill. Were not in alice in wonderland. Something can not be conscious and self aware without being alive...
Try this: read a book on biology, then read a book on geology, then compare the two. You will find no similarities.
Originally posted by SirTFiedSkeptic
The sun is creating the gravity that is holding earth in its solar-orbit. Just as Earth's gravity keeps you and I down here stuck on earth. As much as you would like to think you have "freedom of motion" you don't.
Dude Yuri Gagarin called from 1961 he has something to tell you about "freedom of motion"...
Originally posted by tangonine
This thread is still stuck on not realizing the earth is a rock on which life exists, but that fact doesn't make the rock alive?
Originally posted by Sly1one
Originally posted by tangonine
This thread is still stuck on not realizing the earth is a rock on which life exists, but that fact doesn't make the rock alive?
Well, I guess if you say so...
I mean lets not acknowledge the fact this "rock" has an inner molten core and a magnetosphere. lets not acknowledge this "rock" creates "gravity" and has another "rock' orbiting it...lets not acknowledge anything about this "rock" that could possibly make it "more than a rock" because that would shatter my perception of the world and my place in it and well, I'm just not comfortable with that yet.
I totally get it now, a simple rock and earth...exactly the same!!!
actually who the hell knows...maybe a simple rock and earth are exactly the same and are both alive...maybe it all depends on what "scale' you are able to perceive or at least conceptualize things at.
edit on 11-12-2011 by Sly1one because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by LightsideAssassin
Originally posted by Alexander_Supertramp
reply to post by Alexandra9
I was responding to the statement that "The Earth is self-aware." I won't comment on whether it's alive or not as I'm not scientifically qualified to make a statement of what counts as 'life' or not....but I can comment on something being self-aware, as I myself am self-aware, and I know what it means to be self-aware. If the Earth were self-aware, wouldn't it have the capacity to act? If not, that not only sucks, but we'd have no viable evidence to make such a claim. As of now, the only way we can determine if something/someone is self-aware is based on actions. If the Earth can act, then why doesn't it? Wouldn't it try to alleviate itself of the poison that is humanity? We are destroying Earth, so would a self-aware being that can act allow itself to be destroyed by parasitic organisms? That is why I said the OP's claim makes no sense.edit on 8-12-2011 by Alexander_Supertramp because: (no reason given)
Well, our(human) version of self-awareness isn't necessarily the defining version of self-awareness, now is it? I mean, it's natural that we use it as a reference point, but I'd hardly go down the road of thinking that, if indeed, a planet has consciousness, that it's form of self-awareness would mirror our own. Too much we don't know about how the multiverse, and all it's denizens, actually work to think so narrowly about this. My experiences lead me to the conclusion that planets CAN be self-aware, but how it manifests itself is beyond our current understanding...edit on 10-12-2011 by LightsideAssassin because: (no reason given)