Woman Arrested For 'Racist' Rant On Tram

reply to post by gambon


Whites....i didnt say blacks did i???

I said immigrants....black, white, brown...whatever.

I beg to differ.

But cant be bothered anymore....i dont see it as racist...others do. Its my opinion, and im sticking by it...being a brit and all

Originally posted by Brian2384
reply to post by loves a conspiricy

 

Right you are. I doubt she got on the tram and just started abusing these poor folk. Several years ago when in London I experienced some hate as well. Well, maybe being called "white boy" is not hateful and racist but I believe it is and I have to wonder what the real story is. Calling her ignorant, racist, high, or mentally ill just doesn't cut it for me. There's more to this than we know.

Do you not have ears? If you listen to the video it's obvious what caused this argument. Somebody woke up the racists baby.

I'd hardly call that justification.

Sounds like she was making a comment about dole dossers in London who drink all day and shoot brown... not Britons as a whole, white or otherwise. A fair comment I'd say, I get the same impression everytime I'm down sarf and see the Londoners pissing away their dole money on alcohol and the bookies

reply to post by NadaCambia


sounded to me like she was tarring 'white' british people with the same brush, she was talking to a white british woman and kept saying 'you guys' do not want to work.

the rest of your post i agree with but come on, all comments made need to be called out for what they are, there are no sides to take. if a white person said to a black guy 'you guys do not want to work' how would it of been taken then?

Originally posted by lifeform11

Sounds like she was making a comment about dole dossers in London who drink all day and shoot brown... not Britons as a whole, white or otherwise. A fair comment I'd say, I get the same impression everytime I'm down sarf and see the Londoners pissing away their dole money on alcohol and the bookies

reply to post by NadaCambia

 

sounded to me like she was tarring 'white' british people with the same brush, she was talking to a white british woman and kept saying 'you guys' do not want to work.

the rest of your post i agree with but come on, all comments made need to be called out for what they are, there are no sides to take. if a white person said to a black guy 'you guys do not want to work' how would it of been taken then?

Well I think it's irrelevant how someone takes it. I've said "you guys" to people who happen to be black many times in my life.

I understood the comment differently, probably because I make a distinction between myself and the woman in the video. However I'll happily agree the other woman is a racist if that she was slandering white people, or a bigot if she was slandering British people

reply to post by NadaCambia


Oh, I see. (And yes, I do have ears.) That rant was just caused by somebody waking up her child. Perhaps that was the straw that set her off. Do you have eyes? Can you see past your accusations of racism?

reply to post by NadaCambia


I understand that that will only exits in an Utopian world...not Thomas Moore's Utopia either.

I'm from America and I deal with the same thing in this country. People are fed up with the government for tolerating immigrants. But the question you have to ask yourself is...why does this happen? Its BIG business. Cheap labor so people can live the way they want to live. The lower echelon is forgotten. They've been forgotten. Like my country, most of the people will not do the jobs that those immigrants will do for the amount they do it for...hence, immigrants come to our countries to make the money that they can't make in their country and send the money back home. Our governments not only allow this, but they encourage it...simply because the business sector and the government sector is essentially one. They're in bed with each other...

When I made that statement about no boundaries...I was trying to convey that her notion of sending people back to their country and never intermingling is preposterous! If the people in the world stop migrating, what will the world become? It's obvious that racism is still alive, some people say that it isn't, but it either is alive or overt. It's sad...but that's the way it is.

Most people are still in the sheep stages and need to wake up. It's the governments thats creating the division, and you have ignorant people such as this broad making these comments. I don't entirely blame her...I blame the conditioning that goes on in the world. Just like her kid...when he grows up and goes on a rant just like his mother did...is it entirely his fault? Somewhat, but a lot of it comes from his upbringing and conditioning by his parents and the world around him. Yes, he does choose to believe such false notions about other races...but he doesn't know what he doesn't know until someone is able to get into his ear and enlighten him, but with parenting like this...I pray that his ears with understand wise advice.

Originally posted by CREAM
In the United States, disturbing the peace is a crime.

It would make sense if this was the case in the UK also.

Whats the big deal? You just can't act like that in a civil society. She should save that for the local KKK rally..

I know free speech is meant to protect unpopular speech, but there is a difference between verbal assault and talking peacefully and calmly.

If I went on the train yelling about OWS and cussing anyone out who disagreed with me, I am sure people here would be happy if I got arrested... Which would perfect make sense.

edit on 28-11-2011 by CREAM because: (no reason given)

The whole freedom of speech in the States was meant to allow people to voice their opposition to the oppression of a tyrannical King or govt. It wasn't intended as an excuse to be abusive or uncivil to others. On the other hand, as a society we have swung to the opposite of legislating and controlling speech for the purpose of having an "equal" society and for political correctness. To me there is a difference between legislating tolerance and teaching it to your children as polite and civil behavior. The Nanny State comes in to make sure everybody is all nicey nice so that society can be managed as a solution to "bad parents" who do not teach their children manners.

It's mind-blowing how different this thread would be if this was a black woman (or black man for that matter) that spouted out anti-white rheroric and ended up getting arrested. The outcry from the people who applaud the arrest of this woman would be the polar opposite. They would be up in arms defending the anti-white black person and would probably condemn the cops as 'racist'. They would be the ones applauding freedom of expression. There would be people making up excuses for their obnoxious, vulgar behavior. I could just imagine the excuses- "she may have a mental illness", "she is still upset about slavery", etc. The PC worshippers certainly wouldn't say things like 'she should have never been born' and 'someone should have punched her'. If someone did punch the white woman, people would say she had it coming. However, if a white person punched a black person shouting out anti-white rhetoric, it would be the white person who would be condemned for reacting violently and disrespecting freedom of speech.

Too bad most of you are too cowardly to admit that you would do this. I'd take you more seriously if you would just admit that you hold non-whites in higher regards than whites.

reply to post by NadaCambia


Immigrants make up 3% of the population??? Where in the UK are you?? The shetland islands???
Thats nonsense


I had to reply, as you made me laugh I think a lot can be misinterpreted in text, and thats the reason im choosing to leave the arguing down to you and the rest of the PC brigade

Britain is perfect, immigration has only made our country better, we are now reaping the rewards from multiculturalism....the more immigrants we provide for will save the economy....the more jobs given to immigrants will boost the job sector...

You sound like my aunt

Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
reply to post by gambon

 

Whites....i didnt say blacks did i???

I said immigrants....black, white, brown...whatever.

I beg to differ.

But cant be bothered anymore....i dont see it as racist...others do. Its my opinion, and im sticking by it...being a brit and all

And you will soon be arrested even if you are on the internet, you may think you're anonymous but in reality you're not.

reply to post by Charmed707


Sorry, but that's not the case. It was a white woman ranting away about ALL immigrants not the other way around.

The OP deserves a South Park appearance as the defender of racists! With a cape and everything.

Come on now, this thread cannot be serious.

Originally posted by hotbread

Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
reply to post by gambon

 

Whites....i didnt say blacks did i???

I said immigrants....black, white, brown...whatever.

I beg to differ.

But cant be bothered anymore....i dont see it as racist...others do. Its my opinion, and im sticking by it...being a brit and all

And you will soon be arrested even if you are on the internet, you may think you're anonymous but in reality you're not.

One word...well its an acronym so 3 in reality....TOR

Originally posted by conspiracy nut
the english had no problem when they colonized half the world now people most likely from those very countries they once colonized are living in england and people like this lady have a problem with it??? what goes around comes around...

I'm pretty sure that the woman hasn't colonized and would be completely unable to colonize anything. People who did colonize (or should I say the descendants of those people) would not be riding trams. The little people in bully countries are about as responsible for it as the little people in the countries being bullied. Neither have anything to do with it.

reply to post by Historymajor


Did you not understand my point? In the world of political correctness, 'racism' against whites is considered a-ok while 'racist' whites are condemned as the worst possible evil. This thread would be far different if it were a woman of color and everyone knows it.

Originally posted by Historymajor
reply to post by NadaCambia

 

I understand that that will only exits in an Utopian world...not Thomas Moore's Utopia either.

I'm from America and I deal with the same thing in this country. People are fed up with the government for tolerating immigrants. But the question you have to ask yourself is...why does this happen? Its BIG business. Cheap labor so people can live the way they want to live. The lower echelon is forgotten. They've been forgotten. Like my country, most of the people will not do the jobs that those immigrants will do for the amount they do it for...hence, immigrants come to our countries to make the money that they can't make in their country and send the money back home. Our governments not only allow this, but they encourage it...simply because the business sector and the government sector is essentially one. They're in bed with each other...

When I made that statement about no boundaries...I was trying to convey that her notion of sending people back to their country and never intermingling is preposterous! If the people in the world stop migrating, what will the world become? It's obvious that racism is still alive, some people say that it isn't, but it either is alive or overt. It's sad...but that's the way it is.

Most people are still in the sheep stages and need to wake up. It's the governments thats creating the division, and you have ignorant people such as this broad making these comments. I don't entirely blame her...I blame the conditioning that goes on in the world. Just like her kid...when he grows up and goes on a rant just like his mother did...is it entirely his fault? Somewhat, but a lot of it comes from his upbringing and conditioning by his parents and the world around him. Yes, he does choose to believe such false notions about other races...but he doesn't know what he doesn't know until someone is able to get into his ear and enlighten him, but with parenting like this...I pray that his ears with understand wise advice.

That was my point. But that's also why I don't buy the "only doing what xnatives won't" line. Natives will do the work, if they're paid their fair share.

The problem is as you say, governments -- practically owned if not funded by big business -- allow the immigrants to flood in, as it creates favourable competition and allows corporations and businesses to create more profit, by hiring cheap labour.

I don't like it. If you ask me the big business backed government have destroyed progress in Western societies, most notably in the way of Socialism and Unions, with their immigration. I will never hold what's happening against immigrants themselves, because that would just be spiteful and illogical. But I cannot support immigration.

Without immigration, Unions would mobilise properly and these "lazy" natives would have work and well paid work, because they'd be no immigrants to undercut them. As citizens of Earth is that right or wrong, to cut off everyone else in the world for the benefits of a nation? I couldn't tell you.

I'm also pretty conflicted on this issue as in theory I agree with the principles you put forward in your earlier posts. But I find myself looking at the realities and practicalities of globalism and seeing nothing but decline from a British stand point. It's because of globalism that much of these economic and political issues exist today. Corporations taking their business to some 3rd world nation, profiting from British people while refusing t employ and work within Britain. The money to be made from the few jobs that are left in Britain are either taken by immigrants or poorly payed because natives have to compete with immigrants. The decline of Unions(despite what the dailymail readers harp on about), the decline of Socialism, the decline of self worth, vision, humanity.

Economically and politically both globalism and immigration have a lot to answer for.

To me allowing free movement would be devastating. I don't think we've advanced far enough for free movement and globalism. Maybe in few hundred years. If you opened the doors tomorrow for example places like Western Europe, North America and Australia would sink just from the weight of the billions flooding in.

Originally posted by Charmed707
It's mind-blowing how different this thread would be if this was a black woman (or black man for that matter) that spouted out anti-white rheroric and ended up getting arrested. The outcry from the people who applaud the arrest of this woman would be the polar opposite. They would be up in arms defending the anti-white black person and would probably condemn the cops as 'racist'. They would be the ones applauding freedom of expression. There would be people making up excuses for their obnoxious, vulgar behavior. I could just imagine the excuses- "she may have a mental illness", "she is still upset about slavery", etc. The PC worshippers certainly wouldn't say things like 'she should have never been born' and 'someone should have punched her'. If someone did punch the white woman, people would say she had it coming. However, if a white person punched a black person shouting out anti-white rhetoric, it would be the white person who would be condemned for reacting violently and disrespecting freedom of speech.

Too bad most of you are too cowardly to admit that you would do this.

I'd take you more seriously if you would just admit that you hold non-whites in higher regards than whites.

Why not find a video of an overtly racist black person, in similar circumstance to this woman and make a thread about it. You can find out easy enough.

I know it may be hard for you to fathom, but peoples problems with this video is racism. People don't like racism, you don't have to pick sides based on race

Funny that. It's always the racists who seem to think that everyone is a racist. Sorry champ, most of us aren't.

Originally posted by loves a conspiricy
reply to post by NadaCambia

 

Immigrants make up 3% of the population??? Where in the UK are you?? The shetland islands???
Thats nonsense


I had to reply, as you made me laugh

I think a lot can be misinterpreted in text, and thats the reason im choosing to leave the arguing down to you and the rest of the PC brigade

Britain is perfect, immigration has only made our country better, we are now reaping the rewards from multiculturalism....the more immigrants we provide for will save the economy....the more jobs given to immigrants will boost the job sector...

You sound like my aunt

I didn't say immigrants made up 3%. I said black people and polish people make up about 3%. Present evidence to the contrary and I'll retract the statement and apologise.

But I don't sound like your aunt, because if you could read you'll see I'm opposed to immigration and hold a view that's the direct opposite of your Aunts.

I didn't grow up in a white area either. I know all about immigration and racial conflict.

Originally posted by Charmed707
reply to post by Historymajor

 

Did you not understand my point? In the world of political correctness, 'racism' against whites is considered a-ok while 'racist' whites are condemned as the worst possible evil.