Woman Arrested For 'Racist' Rant On Tram

Originally posted by TechniXcality
reply to post by Darkmask

 

Straight up spoken out of honesty, Thats brave because you deff will be flammed here everyone hates whites, # even whites hate whites. Not me never will never have, I'm proud to be WHITE dose that make me racist no. Also i dont belive in institionalized rasicm of any kind but i belive people have a right to there opinions and to even make them herd if they feel it to be right. There ya have it

edit on 28-11-2011 by TechniXcality because: (no reason given)

Nothing makes you a racist, but you probably are based on all your posts on here. Not least of which having a racist neo nazi brother who chases innocent black people around the street threatening physical violence -- Something you admitted to finding humorous.

Originally posted by colin42
reply to post by NadaCambia

 

And you comment on the bigoted attitudes of others. Mate, sick of you keep spouting your biggoted views of anyone from london. Was you frightened by a cockney when you was young or something?

It's not bigoted, people in London are rude c star star t's. That's science bro.

Just giving you a taste of your own medicine Broseph. It's not nice knowing that nobody likes you or wants anything to do with you, is it, or that people don't even want you in the country?

You Londoners don't like it when the shoe is on the other foot, huh?

Like blupblup I'd also be interested to know what illness your friend has. As far as I'm aware there isn't a disease, mental or physical, that results in racism.

Whether she's openly racist because of an illness or burning crack rocks, it doesn't make a blind bit of difference.

reply to post by Domo1


Hmm.. if someone bullies another person until that person commits suicide or has some sort of trauma over it then there should be repercussion. Bullying is, after all, just a euphemism for harassment.

That said, she's an idiot, but shouldn't be arrested.

Originally posted by NadaCambia

Originally posted by citizen3273676
while i agree shes a lil rude, i kinda like rude people. i dont find "swear" words offensive in any way. swear words are not child abuse, if a parent can bring a child to a movie with a swear is anyone charged with child abuse?

Nobody is bothered by her swearing. We're British, swearing is like water of a ducks back.

Originally posted by citizen3273676
its not child endangerment either. going to an english footy game might be, footy might be child abuse(joke) as well but nothing in this video is. no need for an arrest. hope she wins millions in law suits

She won't win anything in lawsuits because her actions are illegal on several counts.

Originally posted by citizen3273676
to all those who claim shes a racist or child abuser etc shes not racist for saying a black person is black.

Yes she is. Only a racist would go on a bus and start insulting people for their skin colour

Originally posted by citizen3273676
its not racist to claim the black woman wasnt english it might be splitting hairs but her statements are simply facts stated rudely maybe she was angry had a point/reason.

Not a fact at all. Are you saying black people cannot be English - That's racist, or retarded, at best

Originally posted by citizen3273676
now please explain how i can tell you to go and be fruitfull with your self but i cant use the f word did you know which word i meant?? did you understand what i meant at the begining of that question? is it the sound? the meaning? i cant pass air past my vocal chords and shape/create any sounds i want? can i say deficate? poo poo ? doo dee? doo doo? oh so can say #tzu?(wow unFing buhlievable this site wont let me use the name of a japanese dog) dont forget the zoo!

Nobody cares about her use of swear words. Swearing in public in the presence of people it offends is rude, but hardly a crime against humanity.

damn i wanted to do the ats disected reply cant figure out how to do so sorry i have to respond all at the bottom.

my response was aimed at those in this thread that claimed the woman was guilty of child abuse(swearing) and child endangerment(the soon to charge and rip her and her child apart bus riders)(sarcasm)

still hope she wins millions anyway

i saw her claim," your black so you cant be british than can you"? was the other woman not black? obviously her point in context is black peoples ancestory is not the british isle. how is that not a fact or racist? she was mad that someone her implication being an immigrant could come to england and tell her how she can or cant speak. how are you people not seeing that as her right? i support the other womans right to verbaly complain(even if an immigrant i only see earthlings) about the first persons "rudeness" i saw the whole episode as comic relief and if present would have been entertained i still see no reason for an arrest????

no im not that im aware retarded and im not claiming who can or cant be a british citizen. just that the womans point/reaction imo was about being told what she can or cant say by in her opinion an immigrant.

so with all due respect to your opinions of racism. if im playing you at poker and and i can increase my winning % and walk away with all your money by using the dreaded N word(i hate net nannys who doesnt know what i mean) that would not make me the racist in that scenario. my point being, stating that a black person is black is somehow racist or in some way hurtfull to a black person is an incredibly racist view.

im so sick of people automaticaly crying racism everytime someone has a confrontation that involves two diferant levels of a tan or accent. people argue, fight, hate, for other reasons as well. i guess its irony like some kind of we gotta over protect the dark ones they cant fend for themselves racism.

just saying imo its also racist if you dont speak to a person the same as you would if all was the same this includes being overly protective/nice to a people. its like they say our masks reveal all.

Originally posted by MegasAlexandros
My response copied from a repeat thread:

The extreme far right has certainly been gaining ground in England, with the English Defense League springing up and exploding with members. However, it seems like the same thing which has gone on for years in the US, where there are lazy white people who are mad at all the blacks for being lazy, and lazy black people who are mad at all the whites for being lazy. Truth is, both extreme sides are the same... STUPID! Most of you know my stance fervently defending social aide programs, because they really are important for those who need them. Which is why instead of cuts to those programs, I propose overall cultural change to curb the problems.

PS
I forgot to mention, don't include Scotland, Wales, or North Ireland in this, because honestly, this has been mostly an English problem...

no scotland and ireland dont have time for it what with there religiouss hatred/bigotry n all.......... rangers....... celtic , northern ireland and southern , ira uff et al

reply to post by Domo1


Although the woman's remarks are rude and ignorant, and it was stupid to spout off with a child on her lap, she SHOULD still have every right to voice her opinion. If I stereotype politicians and call them thieving scumbags and self-interested liars that should be removed from society, that may or may not be true, but to me it is and it is still simply my opinion. Will that soon become a hate-crime? If we label international bankers as the psychopathic @ssclowns that they are, that should have had chlorine added to the gene pool to prevent conception, will that become a hate crime? That's the direction we are going people.

Is the truth such a fearful thing that it must be made illegal? Politicians on the "advice" of the IMF and other NGO's have destroyed the UK (and many other countries), literally, by allowing too much immigration, even pandering to the immigrants. That breeds frustration, anger and hopelessness in the host population. Add to that, how the IMF has destroyed national and global economies, it's a recipe for global disaster!

If someone recognizes that their country is being destroyed, they should have every right to voice their opinion, but she's actually taking it out on the wrong people. As misguided as she is in that respect and her rude delivery, it should not prevent her from having her say. Plus we don't even know what was said before hand. Was the outburst provoked by some other person in the tram? Did her husband just lose his job to an immigrant? Was a plant shut down and her husband/herself unable to find another job? Were they denied social benefits because of the enormous immigrant burden on the system? Were they given benefits that are half what an immigrant gets?

I know for a fact in Canada an immigrant gets about $2500 a month on benefits while a Canadian who has worked all their life in Canada gets about $1300, FOR THE SAME BENEFITS! It's no wonder people are pissed off and will express it at the drop of a hat. But this has been created by the governments of the world, the immigrants just want a better life, like anyone else and if it's offered they will take it.

The triple frauds of the Multi-Cult, the hive mentality of Political Correctness and the religion of Anthropomorphic Global Climate Change are alive and well in Bizarro-World, brought to you by their sponsors, the IMF and UN. I have no use for multiculturalism, adapt and integrate with our customs and laws, or leave. I have no respect for the politically correct, fat is fat, not phat, if it hurts your feelings, lose weight. There is no truth in human caused global climate change, unless cow farts and SUV's can reach out to Mars to melt ice caps and Jupiter and Saturn to change the course and effect of storms.

Soon will come a time, when the utterance of an opinion will be considerably more illegal than the truth.

Oh wait, that time is already here.

Cheers - Dave

reply to post by citizen3273676


err most white people in uk are not ancestrally english, mainly norman ,anglo saxon, etc..etc....very few if any can trace back to ancestral celtic roots

Originally posted by Flyer

Originally posted by openyourmind1262
Sticks & stones may break my bones..... but WORDS will never hurt me. She has the right to say what ever she wants. There words, not stones or sticks. lifes hard, get a helmet.

Nobody has a right to say whatever they want.

Yell "fire" in a theatre or say "Ive got a bomb" on a plane.

Go on, I dare you.

Nobody has free speech yet yanks think they are the only ones who have it.

what your saying is sadly true but what you cant do in a theater/plane/etc is cause a panic and it shouldnt matter what words were used. those arguments are not about free speech they are about getting the masses to accept an infingement on free speech. baby steps towards a bigger loss of rights. its a very old argument by the establishment who never really cared about people dying in a panic.

Originally posted by NadaCambia

Originally posted by TechniXcality
reply to post by Darkmask

 

Straight up spoken out of honesty, Thats brave because you deff will be flammed here everyone hates whites, # even whites hate whites. Not me never will never have, I'm proud to be WHITE dose that make me racist no. Also i dont belive in institionalized rasicm of any kind but i belive people have a right to there opinions and to even make them herd if they feel it to be right. There ya have it

edit on 28-11-2011 by TechniXcality because: (no reason given)

Nothing makes you a racist, but you probably are based on all your posts on here. Not least of which having a racist neo nazi brother who chases innocent black people around the street threatening physical violence -- Something you admitted to finding humorous.

Quote me once being racist you ignoramus, Also i find it quiet funny how you left out the part of my quote where i said it was a stupid thing to do, and that im not racist. Yes he should not have chased him, but it was funny seeing my brother who i've known all my life act so far out of charater by chasing a black man clear across a parking lot. Was it right no, was anyone physically harmed no, was it a bit humorus yes and ill stick to that statement. It was very inappropriate and absurd but funny. Im not a racist so stop throwing around that word, im proud to be white and i support anyone else's pride. But like i said in the very begining chick should have shut her mouth, but being arrested for it is extreme.

reply to post by TechniXcality


could you describe how you found it humorous?I personally would have been ashamed of my kin......

reply to post by Domo1


are you completely clueless? The only difference between that situation in the UK and here in the United states is that the police would have gotten there to arrest the lady a wholee lot sooner than they did in that video, here in the good ole' US. Next time your out go start that crap with the nearest black person. I garuntee you end up either beaten or arrested, or both. but good luck with the UK bashing theyre more free than we are buddy. sad fact

Originally posted by gambon
reply to post by TechniXcality

 

could you describe how you found it humorous?I personally would have been ashamed of my kin......

I think i already did but since i have a bunch of racist lynch mob members after me ill repeat. ITS WAS SO OUT OF CHARATER FOR MY BROTHER TO DO THAT, THAT IT WAS A BIT HUMORUS. He was fresh out of the pen, i didnt realize what he had been through and his action was on the whim and drop of the hat that it had an element of surprise which i thought was funny. Are you satisfied or should i go ahead and make my noose? Oh and once again it was very stupid, and when he got back from being out ran i told him he's a freaking idiot and we proceeded to watch our movie. are you good now?

All I see in this thread is a bunch of people basically whining that "your rights end well before my feelings begin". I cannot speak to other nations for I do not live there but a sentiment more offensive to the American value of freedom of expression could scarcely be thought of for the very purpose of the high protections afforded speech is so that that speech which affronts the sensibilities of others may be heard without fear of official repercussion. For the profane, vulgar and personally offensive there are civil remedies but the state should not, and does not in America, have a say in the regulation of such speech which ultimately does nothing more than bruise feelings.

To quote Justice Brandeis, “Fear of serious injury alone cannot justify oppression of free speech and assembly. Men feared witches and burnt women. It is the function of speech to free men from the bondage of irrational fears.”

If she wants to imply all non-whites are not British or proclaim it to the heavens in the most vulgar way possible to crowd of such folk, the law ought not to tell her otherwise.

reply to post by citizen3273676


nah man, most of the people out raged by the "racism" are actually white people self loathing, wishing they were more tan. I cant stand self hatred of one's race, to me thats worse than hating another race. But then again hate in general leads to nothing so both are wrong.

She is saying what everyone else is thinking.....

The video starts with her abusing other travelers....what happened before? What provoked her to have this outburst??

Maybe she went to the dole office or housing office and was told "sorry you cant get help as all our money goes to helping immigrants"
This is a horrible fact in the UK. Immigrants, legal or otherwise get more help (housing, money, driving lessons, money towards a car, £2m houses, etc etc etc) than native Brits.

What she said was true....the whole tram was full of immigrants. She went about it the wrong way, but once again...what made her have this outburst?? What did she say that was untrue??

People are getting fed up of going to the shops with the little money they have, to see immigrants filling their trolleys to the top with food, booze and luxury items. All paid for by us...the british tax payers. Then jumping into their brand new cars, driving back to their brand new houses/flats.

Its not racist to talk the truth. Our country is over run with immigrants, thats a FACT im afraid. Border Patrol dont even bother checking buses and trains anymore, so we are going to see a lot more of this happening in the future.

Of course there are immigrants that are genuine, and contribute towards society...but they are lacking in numbers. The majority of them come here because they KNOW they will get a house, education, health care, and a pocket load of cash. We arent called soft touch Britain for no reason.

Does anyone even know what the word racist means????????????

rac·ism (rszm)
n. 1. The belief that race accounts for differences in human character or ability and that a particular race is superior to others. 2. Discrimination or prejudice based on race.

1. a belief or doctrine that inherent differences among the various human races determine cultural or individual achievement, usually involving the idea that one's own race is superior and has the right to rule others. 2. a policy, system of government, etc., based upon or fostering such a doctrine; discrimination. 3. hatred or intolerance of another race or other races.

So she was being rude and abusive, but not racist as per the definitions

Originally posted by ShedAlert
No. She was being insulting, she was being racist and she was provoking physical confrontation. Somebody like her should not be privileged with the right of free speech.

Then it isnt free speech anymore is it? Its 'restricted when I dont agree with what you say speech' isnt it?

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dude i just asked you to explain , as much for your benefit as mine , as maybe ,just maybe ,what you said was being misconstrued....

reply to post by Rising Against


So you support thought crime arrests....

You must hate freedom

I understand where she's coming from. In my country, we're facing the same thing too.

But at least be civil & reasonable about it. Why would you verbally attack these foreigners who are said to have 'benefits' when they didn't demand for it? The government gave it to them. When she can "exercise her right of free speech" towards the policies, why tell those foreigners off? Obviously racist and just nitpicking.

I read somewhere here that hate & discrimination should be legal.

Wow.

I'm utterly disappointed. Humanity can't progress like this.

Originally posted by allintoaccount
she is right, she has lost her Britain. but she was racist.
ok she lost it but so do a lot people. She should have not been arrested for anything other than disturbing the peace.

I understand where she is coming from, all I repeat ALL the people I know are absolutely fed up with foreignors coming here without paying a penny in tax and receiving Free healthcare;Free housing; free money; free food mostly at the expense of the indigenous people of these islands.
the .BBC says that the uk will have 70million inhabitants by 2020, 43 percent of the rise is due to immigration, however that is a lie. As white british couples have on average only 1.6 children and its been that way for 25years. Our population should be going down not up.. So 100percent of the increase is down to immigrants. Why are they lieing?
Why on t.v. Programs purporting to the riots do they show predominantly white manchester youths when they were a tiny minority of the rioters?
Britian has been sold down the swanny....... No one voted for half a million immigrants a year to come here-and that is just the ones we know about.
A majority of the immigrants have no loyalty to the u.k and are only here like opportunistic thieves and we the guilty, evil horrible british just say yeah , go for it, we are just like the the other indigenous peoples of the world- nothing at all.

This woman is only stating what most of us indigenous; who have not been brainwashed, really think about the theft of our land and heritage.

Most of the white people in england/uk are not indigenous the the islands, eg celts, most have anglosaxon , norman , roman background.....to say white(as a race) are indigenous is infact disengenuos(sp)

we are a mongrel race , have been for hundreds of years....


hate to tell you this but i hardly know any english who think that way , and i live in one of the deprived cities of the uk, I didnt vote for rude chavs to run the streets either , In fact most here hate the white upper class toffs who have seemingly brought this country down

A large proportion of "whites" have no loyalty to the uk or england either....

YOU DO NOT SPEAK FOR THE MAJORITY OF ENGLISHMEN !!!!!!

the only answer seems to be that we stop benefits for all members of the uk then noone (by your logic) will want to move here.....................In fact anybody who cant trace there family back to boudicea should go back there own country