Cairo rally: One day we'll kill all Jews

reply to post by intrepid


You are unbelievable. So the headquarters of the Muslim Brotherhood in Egypt, isn't enough evidence that this news piece probably is true?? You have to impugn it because it's Israeli???

I wonder what the reversal of this situation would draw out of you: If Ynet said something negative about Jews and Israeli's - which they frequently do.

Originally posted by BO XIAN
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Not so fast.

Israeli's go to great lengths to care for Palestinians and other Arabs in Israel as well as even their injured enemies.

The Arabs do the opposite.

That's Just facts.

The facts for the average man on the street are something different than the Mossad or Muslim Brotherhood in their respective outlooks and command structures. I would have great faith in the average Jew and average Arab being able to find a way to coexist if the leaders on BOTH sides got out of the way and stopped trying to start new fights and wars on a regular basis.

...Until then I think the hate runs pretty close to equal between Tel Aviv, Cairo and Damascus to name a few examples. All want war and none really care about peace. They shall get their wish, and God help us all when they do.

reply to post by Wrabbit2000


Are you aware that the PA conditions Palestinians to hate Jews? And I'm not even referring to the Hamas media in the Gaza strip. I'm referring to the PA textbooks, approved by Abu Mazen, that Palestinian children learn from.



Now how exactly do you equate the average Palestinian Arab with the average Israeli Jew, when the former is being taught religious hatred of Jews and Judaism, as well as a complete distortion of accepted history (denying the existence of the Jewish temples, for instance), while the latter is being taught the opposite: to seek peace with the Palestinians (as in the Israeli 'shalom acshav' "peace now" movement)......

There is simply no comparison. As corrupt at Israel's government can be, they are qualitatively the same as any other in the world; their corruption is done more in secret, and not in the public eye. Whereas the Palestinian government, particularly Hamas in Gaza (even though Fatah tacitly supports it, by not condemning it) goes to the most obnoxious extremes to have their people hate Jews. It is akin in its blatant and vitriolic hate mongering, to what the Nazis did with their antisemitic propaganda.

For a background history of the conflict: read here

reply to post by TrueAmerican
Lets just say for the sake of argument that they actually killed all the jews and took Israel? I would give them 24hours before they immediately started killing eachother! They're doing a pretty good job of it as we speak.I just wonder when people are oing to stop sidestepping the real issue? Islam and the koran.

Originally posted by TrueAmerican

Arab hate: A Muslim Brotherhood rally in Cairo's most prominent mosque Friday turned into a venomous anti-Israel protest, with attendants vowing to "one day kill all Jews."

Some 5,000 people joined the rally, called to promote the "battle against Jerusalem's Judaization." The event coincided with the anniversary of the United Nations' partition plan in 1947, which called for the establishment of a Jewish state.

www.ynetnews.com...

:shk:

1) This article may be exaggerated, or entirely false.

2) This article may be true, in which case it helps the world not one bit to voice such extremism.

3) As much as I hate Israeli malevolence, I can't recall them ever vowing to kill all Muslims.

Extremism is no good for anyone, and will not help bring about peace. Will there ever be peace with attitudes like this?

Fine, let them all kill each other then. Just leave our boys out of it.

They will have to take a number and get in line. We christians will not allow that to come to pass, theyre going to have to go through us first and not till were done preaching them the gospel and converting them to be messianic believers.

Youre going to find hate and persecution wherever you go and especially if you proscribe to any given faith that islam is at war with, which is all of them.

Youre absolutely right, extremism is bad for everyone, especially if you're a misguided fool who obeys a mere man over the Messiah.

reply to post by dontreally

Now how exactly do you equate the average Palestinian Arab with the average Israeli Jew, when the former is being taught religious hatred of Jews and Judaism, as well as a complete distortion of accepted history (denying the existence of the Jewish temples, for instance), while the latter is being taught the opposite: to seek peace with the Palestinians (as in the Israeli 'shalom acshav' "peace now" movement)......

I'm sure most schoolbooks in many countries (incl the U.S.) are swayed per the political/economic climates.

This article (perhaps bias) has an opposing view of Israeli school books.


Academic claims Israeli school textbooks contain bias

nurit Peled-Elhanan, an Israeli academic, mother and political radical, summons up an image of rows of Jewish schoolchildren, bent over their books, learning about their neighbours, the Palestinians. But, she says, they are never referred to as Palestinians unless the context is terrorism.

They are called Arabs. "The Arab with a camel, in an Ali Baba dress. They describe them as vile and deviant and criminal, people who don't pay taxes, people who live off the state, people who don't want to develop," she says. "The only representation is as refugees, primitive farmers and terrorists. You never see a Palestinian child or doctor or teacher or engineer or modern farmer."

Peled-Elhanan, a professor of language and education at the Hebrew University of Jerusalem, has studied the content of Israeli school books for the past five years, and her account, Palestine in Israeli School Books: Ideology and Propaganda in Education, is to be published in the UK this month. She describes what she found as racism– but, more than that, a racism that prepares young Israelis for their compulsory military service.

reply to post by xuenchen


I don't doubt that at all, but it's nothing compared to what is shown to children on islamic tv channels. i could post many videos of them teaching kids to kill all the jews and to blow themselves up, while dressed as mickey mouse, that is much worse and is just complete brainwashing and it's usually state sponsered.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


It reminds me of a similar incident during the first Egyptian "revolution" in regards to Israel and when I listened to it in Arabic it could'nt be so further from the truth and the media made a false statement.

This one could be false too or exaggerated to some extinct by coming out of an extremist mosque, if it is such a one, I would'nt put it past them. End of the day, the Egyptians have no plans to go to war with Israel and are in no position militarily to even consider it.

reply to post by TrueAmerican


It doesn't say to kill all jews but the part where they chant 'oh Jews the army of muhhamad is here" Don't you see that as a threat at all ? or are they being friendly ? i wouldn't like to be a Jew walking past that day.

Since this is the 2nd Extremist rally to happen in Cairo this week, then this video is very related to the thread.

19 or so Egyptian copts were killed in a demonstration over their church being
burnt to the ground in Egypt. So it's not just Jews who are targeted. The copts
get targeted too. And women. There was a CNBC young woman reporter who
got deliberately separated from her crew and brutally attacked and raped by
men. She got rescued by a group of women and finally the Army and wound
up in the hospital. There seems to be a lot of hatred to go around; this rebellion
is not so benign and the final ursurpers of the "freedom" supposedly sought
might be much worse than the prior regime.

www.presstv.ir...

This is so weird to me.

The premise that the Muslim Brotherhood hates Jews is something shocking?

So there's a video clip of them saying kill all Jews. Ok. That's not news. The Muslim Brotherhood was founded in 1928. The fact that they support a system of ideals that hates Jews in general is not news. They were founded BEFORE 1948 and didn't quite like Jews back then either.

And yet members here will swear that this simple video clip is fake because it was hosted on an Israeli site? Go do some research on your own into what this group stands for with regard to their feelings about other groups. Pick your own source. There's plenty on there.

Do you know why?

Because the Muslim Brotherhood makes no effort at all to hide their beliefs. And yet some of you do it for them.

How weird.

ETA: As the person before me wrote... this isn't like they "only" hate Jews. As we've seen from THOUSANDS of videos and reports... they hate Christians, women, and most other people unlike them too.

reply to post by nihilus


Thats because Islam is at war with any faith that isn't islam and they war with anyone that isn't muslim and more often than not they even war with other muslims. Does this strike you as barbaric in the least bit? It does me.

They hate the jews because jews dont believe in the messiah and because they can't filter out muhammads brainwashing, they hate christians because we do believe in the messiah but that he was the physical incarnation of God and their still holding grudges over the crusades and blame us in todays age for what was done back then even though none of us were around back then.

Point blank. Hate begets hate. Nothing good can ever be born of hate. Acts of kindness cannot be born from acts of evil. The light pushes back the darkness. Who is the light of the world?

reply to post by TrueAmerican

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
1) This article may be exaggerated, or entirely false.

Once again, the people were duped. All they did was exchange one US backed dictator for another. Seems to me that there are a lot of provocateurs in Egypt though I'm relatively certain that a certain % may blame all the Jews. Have to question the timing considering that US support for Israel is being challenged for the first time.

As the iron fist of a military dictatorship clamps down on the Egyptian people, I doubt the majority are worried about barbecuing the "Jews".

Originally posted by TrueAmerican
3) As much as I hate Israeli malevolence, I can't recall them ever vowing to kill all Muslims.

Their rhetoric aside, Israel's actions speak volumes.

The level of Islamic ignorance saddens me. I am a Muslim, American and have many friends and family of many faiths.

I hear the rampant "tribalism" and "politicians" categorizing Muslims and Jews as mortal enemies.

reply to post by ArcheoAstronomer


The female reporter did not get raped at all, molested yes.

There have been reports of young Coptic female high school students kidnapped by Muslims and forced to convert to Islam then thrown in to arranged marriages by their Muslim captives.

reply to post by Biohazard_Video


It is tragic.

Especially as someone who has been to the areas in question.

I know that the crap we're fed isn't real. But, most people don't know that.

We're told to set things up that way. Sides. Take sides, everyone. That's how we're told to do it.

But there really isn't much purpose in trying to deny it when it IS true. Like denying that the Muslim Brotherhood hates Jews and Christians is not constructive. Why lie to ourselves. There are equivalent groups in the other religions as well.

Those groups help us all hate each other don't they.

Idiots believe that the Muslim Brotherhood represents the views of all Muslims. Stupid, right? Idiots believe that JDL groups represent all Jews. Stupid, right? Idiots believe that the Klan is a good representative of Christians too? How stupid can they be?

But the stupidest people of all are those who blatantly refuse to accept that these groups do exist and the amount of damage they do.

Hence the shock I got reading some of the replies here.

Originally posted by stinkingzombie
reply to post by TrueAmerican

 

Lets just say for the sake of argument that they actually killed all the jews and took Israel? I would give them 24hours before they immediately started killing eachother! They're doing a pretty good job of it as we speak.I just wonder when people are oing to stop sidestepping the real issue? Islam and the koran.

I'm a Muslim, I have a Qur'an, am I a "problem"?

I should also add that I have a lot of training in war, have fought along side Christian and Jews and am now fully disabled due to those actions. I wore an American Flag and a small square with six stripes and a star, three up, three down and the star nestled between. I challenge anybody that questions my patriotism to my country on the basis of what holy book I carry to show me where I am a threat.

I have also seen firsthand how Muslims are treated in Israel, I heard the slurs and boasts about kicking women and children out into the streets while visiting my Jewish family. Do the Palestinian people have a right to be angry? Duh Are they all "terrorists"? No... Do all Israelis act like well armed bullies? No.

I challenge all the "CNN" educated religious "Scholars" to actually read, at the least, "Islam for Dummys" and learn the truth about Islam. It's a great book, assuming you are open to learning about what you post, instead of picking random news stories and playing "cut and paste" pro on every subject.

Salam, Shalom and God be with you all.

Originally posted by dontreally
reply to post by Wrabbit2000

 

Are you aware that the PA conditions Palestinians to hate Jews? And I'm not even referring to the Hamas media in the Gaza strip. I'm referring to the PA textbooks, approved by Abu Mazen, that Palestinian children learn from.

I have seen some of the propaganda and filth that passes for education to the Palestinian kids regarding Jews and the Western people. I suppose I am engaging in some wishful thinking to hope that the Palestinians have the sense to see beyond the stories of Israeli's harvesting Arabs for organs or cannibalism and whatever other stuff they're putting out these days.

By sheer numbers alone I can't believe Palestinians hate Jews as average people. Whatever % the Jihadis are in the population, they are still a % and a tiny one at that. Similar and for the same reasons we could be sure the Iraqi Insurgency never had numbers beyond single digit %'s. If the opposite had been or is true, we would have lost a good % of our people in Iraq and Israel just wouldn't stand a chance at all.

Dislike? yes... Hate? no... Jews seem to dislike the Palestinians about as much as the Palestinians dislike them though. No shortage of that from either direction. It's the leadership level and that Jihadi segment where I think the real hate is, and that is where the wars will come from....whatever the normal people want or don't want out of it.

No one is likely to ask the average Arab or Jew (or Persian for that matter ) their opinion before starting a war likely to kill millions of them all.

If this is true, I despair of humankind.

To those who hate - negativity comes your way.

To those who wish to kill others - negativity comes your way.

To all murderers and religious bigots - negativity comes your way.

To all evil-doers and evil-wishers, you will get a huge welcome from Satan and the eternal darkness.

And when will these people realise that they are destroying humanity, including themselves?