Scientology. Is there something were not seeing?

reply to post by Threadfall


Sorry no. I meant that to be a general reply. As far as speculations on the net worth of the church, based on other people's research and not on first hand knowledge, in the high hundreds of millions or low billions. The buildings that the church owns alone put the worth in the hundreds of millions.

Here's a recent article about a woman who says she was held against her will for nearly 12 years on a cruise ship by members of Scientology. She was basically kidnapped at age 18 and forced to work on the ship.

Woman “imprisoned” on Scientology cruise ship for 12 years

In an interview with the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's (ABC News) Lateline program, Paris claims that Church of Scientology leader David Miscavige sent her to the ship when she was 18 in order to prevent her family from pulling her out of the organization.
"I was basically hauled in and told that my mum had attacked the church and that I needed to disconnect from her because she was suppressive," she said. "He decided the ship, and I found out two hours before my plane left, I was woken up in the morning and I was sent to the ship for 'two weeks.' "

Originally posted by MathiasAndrew
Here's a recent article about a woman who says she was held against her will for nearly 12 years on a cruise ship by members of Scientology. She was basically kidnapped at age 18 and forced to work on the ship.

Woman “imprisoned” on Scientology cruise ship for 12 years

In an interview with the Australian Broadcasting Corporation's (ABC News) Lateline program, Paris claims that Church of Scientology leader David Miscavige sent her to the ship when she was 18 in order to prevent her family from pulling her out of the organization.
"I was basically hauled in and told that my mum had attacked the church and that I needed to disconnect from her because she was suppressive," she said. "He decided the ship, and I found out two hours before my plane left, I was woken up in the morning and I was sent to the ship for 'two weeks.' "

I saw that today and I completely believe it.

It's hard to explain but the brainwashing that takes place when you start to get deeper and deeper into the religion makes cognitive dissonance kick in and you start to get a sort of Stockholme's syndrome (not sure how to spell that).

Its not so much that she was literally imprisoned but what happened is that despite her saying that she wanted to leave the church would convince her that she wanted to say and say "no no if you do this, if you do that you will want to stay again". And because you've been brainwashed you completely fall for it until you start to get your wits around you again and the cycle repeats.

They way they keep you busy, busy with work, work, work you don't have time to think about anything except work. Its ingenious actually.

I feel terrible because my brother will be going there soon, and there's nothing I can do to stop him or my family from letting him go. My dad doesn't want him to go, but if he tries to stop my brother the church will threaten him with lowered social standing, which is very important to church members. And they just won't plain listen to me.

It's crazy how it works because the religion actually breaks down familial bonds so that family won't stand in the way of you're religious advancement.

Sorry for the rant, but that story was very interesting to me.

reply to post by WakeUpRiseUp


One celebrity probably promoted/endorsed scientology (conciously or subconciously) then it spread like wildfire in the whole celebrity world. It's just getting a trendy item - like a Louis Vuitton bag or Jimmy Choo shoes. So when a celebrity announces, "I've converted to scientology" it's like announcing "Hey, not only am I super rich and gorgeous but have some intellectual capabilities as well"

What is being missed is the fact that this is the most powerful group in Hollywood more powerful than the Jewish community and, they have implemented their bizarre, brainwashing psychology into countless movies, televisions shows and musics to create this new generation.

A generation of materialistic, emotionally oppressed, manipulative brats that are trapped at 15 well into their 20's.

I have dealt with these people.
My brother is a casting director and has worked with every big name.
I have worked briefly and only several times in the business however, I have been harassed by them repeatedly.
They do a lot of bizarre things in an attempt to not only brainwash you but break you. Demoralize you and destroy your self esteem. If they succeed, they will then try to bring you into the fold. It's a lot of tearing people down to build them back up and could be useful if it was not administered in a psychopathic manner relative to the behavior of a sociopath.

One form of harassment is look alikes.
Being followed by 2 dozen Gary Sinise look alikes is one of many examples.
Imagine going 15 different places in a single day and everywhere you go, a Gary Sinise shows up.
Finally, you see for sure, Gary Sinise.
They've done that one to me.
Another was after talking to a friend online and telling her a joke I made up involving Lee Majors, Steven Segal, Arnold Schwarzenegger and a couple other people, I leave the house and Lee Majors drives by me as soon as I pull out of the driveway. 10 seconds later, Steven Segal.
Not look alikes trust me. I have ran red lights, drove over sidewalks, through peoples yards, pulled u-turns and hit 90 mph to catch up to the car to be 110% certain I saw who I saw.
Anyway to the short of it after this I see my brother duck down in his car parked next to the freeway. Instead of turning onto the freeway as I've learned how their manipulations work, I drive straight and down a winding country road.

There I drive by Arnold Schwarzenegger, Edward Norton and finally, Brad Pitt who is driving a big box truck we see nursery workers using to haul around Mexicans!
Anyway there's a hundred stories like this to the point I can not remember half of them. Some good, some bad, some hilarious.
They work very hard to get you to investigate. To be certain. To take certain control of your emotions, thoughts and beliefs.

Is there something we're missing?
Definitely.
I believe they are just another sect of the Illuminati, Freemasons, Knights of Columbus and so on. There are SAG members often in the tens of thousands of every state and apart from this, Scientologists in the tens of thousands and sometimes hundreds of thousands in every state.
Because of this their resources are dumbfounding and many participants are ignorant to who they are serving.

They are so conniving and psychological that I have doubts that their defectors and critics are actually out of the church and in fact, working another one of their psychological plots to from what I can tell, take over the world.
I believe 90% of well known entertainers are Scientologists and very likely in many cases, they had no choice!
We hear Illuminati this or that, Satanists this and that but, I connect it all to Scientology and connect Scientology to the Illuminati as the final level.

I saw my brother some years ago in such a #ing state...man I won't air his dirty laundry but I will say this.
When big league producers, directors and actors want something to "cheer them UP", that was his second job....