Do u speak certain cryptic lingo? If so, I need u to bounce ideas off of because I think I c the AC

Originally posted by SuperMassiveBlackH0le
You are metaphorically referring to the Lucifer perspective that resides in the collective consciousness of our society in this day of age, yes?

hmmm... This has a lot to do with this day and age and this society and everything... but there are specific people i am talking about that have very important roles in what people are digesting from the media... and it certainly isn't truth.

It's interesting you mention this though. I'm not sure if i understand exactly what you mean but if you are talking about the general ways of society and how people have to get by... by hurting, lying, stealing, cheating, passing the buck, falsely laying blame on others, rampant ego competition, dog eat dog while everything else gets sugar coated with politically correct superficiality... then i would say that this is largely a part of the reason why people aren't seeing it. It's second nature to a lot of people. They just hear what they want to hear... the sweet lie. they cannot feel the vicious intent laying underneath. they are numb to it because it is so much the way of the world.

Trust me, this man does not care who he crushes.

He is just making money... and the worst part about it... He is part of a huge conglomeration that is doing NOTHING but distracting people. They put a lot of faith into people that there is a new hope and that there is reason to have faith in men.

NONE of these men are giving anyone the truth... and they are running a BUNCH of stuff.

they just play off of each other to distract you and keep you going in circles.

in another time line i believe, he would have been president, but he would have been the same as what was already running the show. certain things happened in his life that changed this. just a few small changes altered the outcome. the stunts that he has pulled in this timeline to garner attention are not what they seem to be. he is closer to elites than he appears and he has access to intel. For them, he was just a new dog to play, fight with and let into the pack. i think they brought him in because he was picked out as a former adversary in another life.... of someone who they think is a threat to them.

They are just playing off of each other to distract everyone. We really don't have time for these methods.

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If I got that right, and lets say I actually wanted to make a difference then what your proposing is that I am wasting my time here at this exact moment? The people know something is up, they don't need a target they just need to be unleashed. The desired result will be the same, I have always wondered what would happen if the world was to die before the apocalyptic "end of the world." Would, could everything be reset? Think if the "AC" was murdered... It's doubt full I know, but with luck and extreme self sacrifice I'm sure its a possibility. Me thinks the "AC" may think of these things himself.. Now you have confused me.

P.S Yes I was referring to the backhanded ways of society but think in terms of the tarot I'm sure its how he does...

Originally posted by SuperMassiveBlackH0le
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer

 

If I got that right, and lets say I actually wanted to make a difference then what your proposing is that I am wasting my time here at this exact moment? The people know something is up, they don't need a target they just need to be unleashed. The desired result will be the same, I have always wondered what would happen if the world was to die before the apocalyptic "end of the world." Would, could everything be reset? Think if the "AC" was murdered... It's doubt full I know, but with luck and extreme self sacrifice I'm sure its a possibility. Me thinks the "AC" may think of these things himself.. Now you have confused me.

P.S Yes I was referring to the backhanded ways of society but think in terms of the tarot I'm sure its how he does...

i do not think it would be appropriate to murder the Antichrist lest you want that pattern to fall on yourself. At this point in time, his murder would only create some type of martyr, sorrow in people who do not see the role he is playing. they will see many roles clearly when catastrophe starts climaxing because they will find themselves in despair and remember the things they used to know in their so called 'normal lives" i do not think it would be a good idea for him to kill himself either. they target types like him because of his spirit, just like they did hitler... but hitler fell for it all and he let himself fall. manipulative types know how easy it is to utilize an egomaniac. He tried to find his way out of his mess with his own selfish spirit... so the result was just more war more war more war.

all this guy needs to do is go from lying for the men of american government, which is trying to make a comeback before the fall... and realize that if he is going to try to use his own spirit to uplift something, let it not be a fallen government. he would walk in truth. Not gimicks, not lies, not coverups, not endless denial of the truth... the never ending distraction that keeps people baited. He would use his power to wake people, not for the purpose of driving them nuts and keeping them confused as hell, but telling them some of the most important crap they might ever want to know. he would not be using triggers he interjects into the public in ways that many can't see, he would not be using what he has learned of psy-ops to control people, get reactions out of them, put false hope into them... leading them astray.

I'm not saying that all forms of media and entertainment are bad. I am being very specific about things that distract you from the problem we may all be about to face.

and it involves these damn vibrations in the ground.

that's why his role is so pivotal... it's all about what he does with that chance.
i truly believe that his own personal intent is as pivotal as the very pole that is shifting.
he himself has a lot of ability, yet he uses it only to cover his own ass...and therefore no matter how bad he hates it, he will always be THAT GUY. the selfish one. the one that would rather be a god than bow to a god.

it resonates the same in MANY people.... but his role IS truly pivotal. Why? because he had that chance more so than a lot of people to make some kind of a difference but will he keep his mouth shut about what he knows until the earth is torn apart? I truly think he might do just that. You see, a lot of people do a lot of bad things and you can look at a lot of it as circumstantial. we are all in a circumstantial world, but the guy who has the chance to do good and doesn't... he is the biggest let down of them all.

they should be helping us, talking to us and giving us the go ahead to stop the menial crap we do day in and day and start doing things to protect ourselves.

I'm not saying that all is lost when people die. i believe very much in the soul... but these men have positioned themselves as my enemy and i believe, an enemy of christ. they stand for america that right now, has the power to change the tide... to give the people the choice and the chance to survive.

It is the principle.

I'm not afraid to die.... unless it's really rally really damn painful, but if you are going to fight for something, should it not be truth?

If we just let them win, let them run off with it all... they are going to screw it up.

they screw EVERYTHING up... and then the new world will not be worth coming back to... in this life or the next.

... but i also believe in god and i believe anyone can be forgiven by god... even the antichrist or any false prophet.

they simply do not have rights on the truth.

my adrenaline is pumping and it feels like the ground is shaking, but I think it's just me. I heard a deafening noise.... but it was too far away for it to rip my ears apart. I was picking it up more around some chains that are hanging here. I see a light up in the sky. I think i am being attacked. I can hearing my heart in my ears.

I think I can hear my skull crackling.

my heart is racing.

I don't know what that was but that was messed up. It's like I could hear the universe roaring but from far away and it sounds like it is just melt your ears right off your head.... but somebody could be trying to make me go deaf or something. my heart started racing and I sat here woozy while it felt like someone was trying to crush my head. I mean it was racing out of control... i started getting mad it was racing so bad. i could feel the adrenaline surge. i swear the ground was shaking and when i looked at it it looked blurry from vibrations but I don't think anybody else felt it.

It felt like the world was about to be ripped in half. in the cold ass weather, i went outside to see what all was shaking...and i looked up and there was a star that does not look like a star.

I also hear the soft voice talking to me as i write this.

what the hell is going on??

that was #ing scary.

i feel sick, like I'm gonna start puking or something. my hands were just shaking like someone with parkinson's.
my neck is all tense like I've been fighting or something.

Holy crap... WHAT WAS THAT?

the noise was just this god awful noise...this screeching like an endless swarm of gigantic insects but so loud that it could literally rip your ears apart.

oh god, what if they attack my cat... that's not murder.... cops don't care about that #.

holy crap.... WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?

oh my god, if they kill my kitty I am going to be o #ing pissed.
those dirty mother#ers.

WHAT THE HELL WAS THAT?

ok... i've had some sleep. Not so sure if that was an attack because of what was going on at the time. It's really got me thinking about this noise.

you see, think about your senses. taste smell touch...coming from things you have close contact with... but your eyes and yours... oh, how am i going to explain this??

there is energy but some of it is light and some of it is sound. it seems we thought the universe was quiet but enveloped within the folds of the cycles of time and space, there is even more energy that cannot be seen and it might be... you know, really loud.

do you ever hear ringing in your ears...what if that ringing was so loud that it busts our eardrums, scars until you are about to have a hearth attack, makes you cry and despair because it is happening and it feels like a complete onslaught of your entire senses but even though there is blood coming from your ears, the vibrations from the sound is still ripping through your brain like you are some kind of tuning fork and reality is vibrating so horrendously that it seems things around you could liquefy and literally dissipate into static. it sends waves through the sun on a full day turning the sun into a high powered microwave scorching the earth while the very foundation of the earth itself is rearranging even it's tiniest particles. even past the point of being able to hear it this noise feels like it could vibrate your brain into mush if you haven't already had a heart attack or had a mountain fall on you...and it's just this terrible terrible sound reminding you of just how frivolous the egotistical chatter of man really is.

god always wanted him to listen to his heart as opposed to listening to his own ego.

many reports claim that the aliens visiting do not have ears and use telepathy.

people can already hear it but it is not even a direct sound, it is enveloped within the folds of the intricate cycle and the cycle is like a huge puzzle... a science project almost it seems... and systematically and uniformly it will go through this intense cleansing.

I'm just kinda shocked right now. I'm not really afraid even though i know it's probably going to rip my head apart. It's just that there seem to be people who are altering chance in their favor because they are "the smart ones".... when for all we know there could be some bum on the street that lost all had because now, all he can concentrate on are very possible solutions that plague his brain day in and day out but no one listens to him... maybe he smells, maybe he has a speech impairment, maybe his clothes are bad... so no one listens to a word he says because he obviously can't know anything if he can't get with man's program of all that you see around you that is completely oblivious to any chance of such cycle...when eerie, insidious clues are everywhere we look.

we don't listen.


some noises you just can't ignore.

at that point in time will you realize the true value of listening to whats beneath the surface, listen to the smallest of voices, learn how to truly listen beyond the endless regurgitated chatter of man... day in, day out.... as if what he has to say is so important, yet when it comes to truth.

He goes silent.


we are a terrible experiment... maybe as bad as the dinosaurs.

i am just in shock at the idea that they know.

they know.... nd that is why they are making impactors to uncover themselves and rovers to scan the surface of the earth to gauge when it will again be livable.

they know. *sigh*

it quickly abated and i was fine afterwards... just very stiff and surprised, but as i sat here, it began sinking in... why that happened.

someone wants you to have this information... for hope, for chance, for goodluck... because it is what is right.

you might luck up in a situation where rocks do not bury you and the commotion does not tear you apart.... but before you go unconscious, maybe you can keep yourself from going into cardiac arrest from pure fear... because you knew it was coming.

I really think it's coming.

Wow... after reading this thread I am reminded why ats, exists.

As far as answers your asking the wrong questions..

I will answer with a statement.

Thieir is the person you think you are, the person people see you as, and the person you really are...

Originally posted by Bicent76
Wow... after reading this thread I am reminded why ats, exists.

As far as answers your asking the wrong questions..

I will answer with a statement.

Thieir is the person you think you are, the person people see you as, and the person you really are...

edit on 5-1-2012 by Bicent76 because: (no reason given)

i doubt you know the question i am even asking.

if so, before you write some long thing that doesn't have anything to do with me, why don't you just entertain me by telling me the questions you think I'm asking. what makes you think i have asked you anything?

Since you came in through the door, ego first... you are going to be met with some resistance because you are off on completely the wrong foot.

If YOU have answers.... then why the hell haven't you been telling people?

I'm pretty sure I'm about to get plummeted with some other random opinion and psycho ananlization and this isn't about that.

It's about something that just might effect every single one of us down to the very core of our being.... all the while completely exposing true intent of man, both good and bad... like he has been stripped down to the very barest of bare and exposed.

Ego? I did not walk in with a ego child....

I have nothing to gain or lose...

Ego....

And no i sure as hell will not help you figure out who you are after that display of ignorance....

What question are you asking...



You should already know the answer asking me to tellyou what your asking is ignorant after pages of your long confusing question...

Cya kid..

Dont try to troll me for answers either...

troll you for answers? don't think so.

i think it's pretty disgusting that you call me kid when I am 36 in this context which is not endearment seeing as how you are no wise compatriot of mine. You are just random person on the internet dreaming that who you are fixing to try to bull# is a kid.

weirdo.

At this point how can we be sure of anything, with all this confusion and the separation of peoples happening every second, right in front of our eyes. What can we even hope to accomplish, all we have is words and they are a joke in and of themselves and the biggest cause of our problems. I think he made sure of that, sometimes I just want to hide in myself but you can only take so long before you need some interaction. People are stronger in numbers, but more easily fooled. The truth comes in various ways and forms, no one knows what it is but we see it everyday. Would anyone even be up to it anyways with all the adversity that could come, maybe its meant to be. I always wanted to be a sheep. What can we do anyways?

Originally posted by SuperMassiveBlackH0le
At this point how can we be sure of anything, with all this confusion and the separation of peoples happening we do anyways?

Well, an interesting point that you make is that with everything happening and everything that we do not know, how can we even know what fully is to come... and even if we did, what could we do.

We just don't know that.... but what THEY know, they should not be keeping it to themselves so we can expend on that knowledge. Their attitude seems to be that they are the only ones capable of understanding any of it.... but i don't believe that. I think if you put faith and energy and share your knowledge with a collective consciousness, you will likely get many more ideas and answers of all sorts.

i do believe they are preparing for themselves because they are THAT concerned... and that their misinformation is not out of uncertainty, but out of selfishness. They wanted to prepare all they could for themselves first and elites with even MORE money get the offers of being part of that endeavor, but even penniless people are valuable. they do not see it that way yet the whole system is run off of the little guys servitude. how could they not give credit to the foundation of that totem pole..... the little guy at the bottom.

THEY think of us as just a problem, when in fact... maybe there is no way they could live without us.

It's all about principle. If we do not take that into account, does our very species even deserve to survive another mass extinction or will the cycles of god simply try again with maybe a less egotistical species.

OK, so let's say they are nowhere NEAR having all the answers... that is actually very understandable.
Not everyone is so eager to look like chicken little talking about the sky falling... So why are they not telling us at least what they DO know?

the answer is pure selfishness.

and like you say, the jokes are just in and of themselves. It is just the echo of the ego and it resonates so well within society. Sure, we all have egos and lots of times it IS funny.... but there is a time to get serious and tune people into, not just distraction after distraction, but things that are connected to our very world. the world does not belong to them and they have no right to even try to lie about why they would attempt to control the outcome. life takes all kinds so how could it be anyone's right to literally control the outcome of the entire world without input from all sides of the globe?

when you are given a gift... a powerful powerful gift, be it extreme scientific intelligence or be it popularity giving you a pipeline to the people... and you misuse it, it was likely never yours and in a world of duality, how could you not be shown the flipside of that coin eventually? We are cursed.

It is very sad.

i hate living in a world full of men such as these...and there are plenty of others who would do much better, but the most power hungry will be the ones to take all the power and control the fate of the world?

how can this be?

how can bowing to the self continue to be a part of our collective being?

Bowing to the self cannot be our god.

what manner of species are we doomed to become?... like ourselves only worse?... only twice as selfish and cowardly?

How can this possibly be the way? It is everything that mankind CLAIMS to believe is wrong.

this is not the god i revere.

as for solutions... i don't know... the ocean is huge, hydrogen and oxygen can be obtained by electrolysis and artificial sunlight can be made. it's hard to tell if there is any hope of anyone surviving because to know that, you would have to know the degree of the force that is coming our way. all we could do is try, but they will PREVENT you from having that chance.

think i'm wrong?... build a super water tight craft that can lower itself to extreme depths and take a lot of external forces hammering on it... there are plenty of smart people in the world that could help anyone build just a craft to fit a few people in if there were not funds to do more... and think of all the "what ifs".... it's not impossible to try but now you take that craft out into deep waters without all sorts of explanations of what you are doing and the go ahead from the government and see how fast they come and snatch you out of that water.

and if the craft was a good idea... they'd take it in the name of national security and probably put you in jail as some sort of terrorists.

They own the land, even when you have a deed saying it's yours, you still pay them for it because ultimately they consider it theirs, they own the water... they even own the path, they own the air.

and they own you...
and when you become more of a burden to them and less of a service as you are now... they will throw you in the garbage.

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I have to say, after reading through all the pages on your thread, my head just hearts. Nevertheless here are some things that i gathered from your posts.

This man attempted to install a Freudian emotional trigger into me when I was 15 to either A) counteract the effects of another set of emotional triggers opened to my subconscious when I was five. OR B) He is trying to create excuses a give a human feel to help me process the understanding of what happened to me when I was 5.

I have seen him lately while he has been on vacation. He is ACTIVELY trying to deceive and confuse people. I seriously thought he was playing devil's advocate.... but I am not so sure now.

He has relatives... lot's of them. Megalomaniacs love to sire loads of children regardless of the cost of their little lives... because that is just more soldiers for them.

Funny you mention doctor because he actually has medical degrees. At least two of his aliases are Doctors.

It is not actually me who is making this up... it's him. He has had his fingers in my vagina. He attempts to exploit those triggers in many ways.... including the media and he may very well have MANY victims.

He is no dummy but he started digging into secret intel after climbing ladders and he understand the anatomy and psychology of a person WELL.

and that is who visited me when I was five. So looking back, he could exploit those triggers in me because he knew that I knew that it was all real.... because I have seen it with my own eyes.

he has many connections all over the place. he is a free man to go where he chooses. he's quite the frequent flyer. others know of this but certain people have fallen under protection and they do not talk... that is why I have conversation like the one we are having.

.....I have been telling people this all along so that we could find the proof that people have been leaked some really weird intel and it has caused me and some others to get picked on by nasty men with money. I'm not the only one. ...

Now, is he doing this to expose it and just get it over with and fall back down and relax.... or is he fighting me. Cause he keeps coming near me, I'm taking some of his blood as proof. I can't get much more cooperation than a little assurance that there are witnesses to this stuff.

he has slaves in the system. most of them have no idea what is going on... obviously or they would question him.

I have to overlook so much, it's hard to function in society... period. I have to numb myself to triggers constantly. They got other people going with that stuff and it just ripples out. They demonized us.

and I am still pretty sensitive, but after people have given you so much crap and even I have torn my own mind to pieces looking for some semblance of truth, you really start having to take some strange, absurdly ironic things with a little bit of laughter.

I just think he is a very cunning liar and has a pronounced lack of faith that causes this compulsive tendency to manipulate everything around him in some way. It would not be, in his case, a huge onslaught that he managed with his own hands, but in a whirl wind of chaotic events after leading many others down a certain wrong path... he may make one small choice that sets some kind of monster into motion... this is why I am so concerned.

Sometimes you just can't sit and figure it all out on your own... no matter how important personal soul searching is. It's all about shedding light in a dark world.

I have been residing at 4 different addresses in the last four months and hardly even have internet access on most days. i have been busy busy busy converting a van and getting rid of almost everything I own. after having my house broken into i realized that these people were not going to leave me alone and so although I have done nothing wrong, I am literally on the run.

The man who I say is an government black ops agent who operates in the public has a relative... a nephew or son that he staged near my house. the last time i saw him he was trying to get my attention because he wanted a further interaction and thought he could do it by silly casual means. i guess they didn't realize that i recognized him from the video they made... a very stupid video.... about the vessel and the soul. He gets young people into his messes and they think they are just making a silly little video....

There are no words to describe that horror. I am sure there must be a way presenting your case, to someone official who really deals with that. Maybe other members on ATS can give you an advice.
I am off to sleep it´s 2:30 AM here.

Peace

I have tried contacting the states forensics lab, but got no answer. i have yet to explain anything, just can't even get to the point of talking to anyone yet... seeing as how I cannot afford a private attorney.

i run out of steam trying to sort all this out but you're right, there must be a way... and that is why i keep talking about it.

I would just b happy if people were aware... and just a little control fell out of their hands.

i do know that a few people have listened and that gives me hope that it isn't in vain. I believe that just a little can go a long way. i do have to control any tendencies of getting set off by something odd yet unrelated, but I cope with how it makes me feel... and that is very hard to describe. i must remember there are a lot of victims in the world..and in many vicious ways. If they can be strong, so can I.

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Sigh another exibit thread on ats..

What the hell are you talking about?






Even if one of the world wide patrons on ats, even if we answered you, you would deny it and ramble on about whatever personal egotistical idealism your feeling you have to share with us because you ate some pork the other night would be more important..

Please, bring the full glory of your idealism to us on ats, and be sure to click on some ads please...




you have become a amusing game for us to witness, and your about to serve your purpose now..

Peace and good luck on gaining your wisdom...

Corporatism, fascism, communism, socialism all melt into a sickening stew of depravity. Be you serf or freeman? Will you cringe under the jackboots of of heartless fools or will ye follow the path to the mountain summit...there and only there will you merge with VALIS. It is a solitary climb of stunning inner reflection. Cast away your boulder, it is karma...

Originally posted by Bicent76
reply to post by BlackSatinDancer

 

Sigh another exibit thread on ats..

What the hell are you talking about?

Even if one of the world wide patrons on ats, even if we answered you, you would deny it and ramble on about whatever personal egotistical idealism your feeling you have to share with us because you ate some pork the other night would be more important..

Please, bring the full glory of your idealism to us on ats, and be sure to click on some ads please...

you have become a amusing game for us to witness, and your about to serve your purpose now..

Peace and good luck on gaining your wisdom...

edit on 5-1-2012 by Bicent76 because: (no reason given)

I am not impressed by your use of the term WE or any descriptions of how you are three different people or whatever... or the fact that...lol.... this one was so dumb I had to laugh, when you said that I ought to know my own questions because YOU can't tell me what they even are... even though you claim to know.

oh, like I just forgot my whole reason for making this thread.

I'm just going to start ignoring you... this isn't worth the effort of actually typing words for you.

it's not like I need to point anything out here.
you'd make a better heater blowing out all that hot air.

Originally posted by WilburMercer
Corporatism, fascism, communism, socialism all melt into a sickening stew of depravity. Be you serf or freeman? Will you cringe under the jackboots of of heartless fools or will ye follow the path to the mountain summit...there and only there will you merge with VALIS. It is a solitary climb of stunning inner reflection. Cast away your boulder, it is karma...

Good post. i like it.

Even though i can't see a lot of that karma manifest, if it was any other way... i wouldn't want to be a part of it anyway.