The UNofficial Report On 9/11

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imagine if the bandana was on a hijackers head? he would have walked away from the crash unscathed

Originally posted by VonDoomen
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imagine if the bandana was on a hijackers head? he would have walked away from the crash unscathed

Haha...good point. Isn't it standard operating procedures for terrorists to leave their suicide tapes, maps, Korans, bandanas and passports in safe locations?

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I guess it depends where in the airplane their stuff was. Did they have it with them in the cockpit, or were they in bags in luggage? Any number of reasons exist for why things survived. Did you know a Bible managed to survive flight 93's crash? That's not related to Islam or the terrorists at all.

Originally posted by Varemia
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I guess it depends where in the airplane their stuff was. Did they have it with them in the cockpit, or were they in bags in luggage? Any number of reasons exist for why things survived. Did you know a Bible managed to survive flight 93's crash? That's not related to Islam or the terrorists at all.

Heh...yeah, airplanes.

Flight 93 disappeared into a thimble sized hole, but the bible survives. No propaganda here...move along.

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You really do love making assertions with nothing to back it up. I offer reason and explanations based on things that actually affect what will happen in a given situation, and you act like a child. Grow up.

Originally posted by Varemia
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You really do love making assertions with nothing to back it up. I offer reason and explanations based on things that actually affect what will happen in a given situation, and you act like a child. Grow up.

The "assertion" about the thimble sized hole was a joke...I thought we were joking what with the surviving bible story and all. I guess it's childish of me to see humor in such things though, thank goodness for grownups like you to be able to identify propaganda, whew!

I certainly liked the formatting and I'm always interested in reading new content.
It's the first time I'd read details of the USA Patriot Act and was quite shocked;

Right to a Speedy and Public Trial: Government may jail anyone indefinitely without a trial, including US citizens.

I agree with members that it was more of a synopsis but full marks for investigating some of the more interesting aspects of the 9/11 conspiracy.

Always going to be a contentious issue with the lives that were lost, but I don't see anything wrong in asking questions if the original official report failed to address them.

Keep up the report writing, you have a talent to grow.

Originally posted by Se7enex
You can see some of Robert Gage's videos on youtube (:

It is Richard Gage (you cannot even get a name right from a conspiracy site!), and this is just one of Gage's video's that show the quality of his research!

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What is wrong with the demonstration? Please explain.

Have you ever taken a science class and used models to demonstrate physics?

You are just jumping on the debunker bandwagon because someone else has told you that demonstration is silly.
It's not, it simply demonstrates that there would be resistance, as fits the laws of motion, as he explains. You have all been failed by your school system.

Originally posted by ANOK
Have you ever taken a science class and used models to demonstrate physics?

remember, you are the one here with no understanding of basic physics, you do not even understand Pe!

that demonstration is silly.
It's not, it simply demonstrates that there would be resistance,

Very wrong, it is silly, as the claim that WTC1 & 2 fell at freefall speed is very silly, just like truthers and their silly conspiracy theories!

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Because, clearly, a building has never, in the history of the world, collapsed without explosives. I'll buy that.

Originally posted by spoor
remember, you are the one here with no understanding of basic physics, you do not even understand Pe!

What? I am the one that has to keep explaining to you what Pe is. You want to believe all objects have Pe, which is wrong. A body at rest has no Pe, as I have proven.

Similarly, a drawn bow is able to store energy as the result of its position. When assuming its usual position (i.e., when not drawn), there is no energy stored in the bow.

www.physicsclassroom.com...

No energy stored in the bow means no Pe. A body at rest has no Pe.

that demonstration is silly.
Very wrong, it is silly, as the claim that WTC1 & 2 fell at freefall speed is very silly, just like truthers and their silly conspiracy theories!

I never said they fell at free-fall speed, stop making assumptions.

The proof there was no resistance is in the fact the collapse wave did not slow down, not how fast it collapsed.

If there was resistance the collapse would never have been complete, period.

You fail to understand not only Pe, but the laws of motion.

Originally posted by Varemia

Because, clearly, a building has never, in the history of the world, collapsed without explosives. I'll buy that.

Why do you keep saying stupid stuff lol?

I prove you're wrong about the physics and this is your reply? Can't you just admit your wrong, and stop with the silly comments? You just don't like losing do you?

Show me ONE building that completely collapsed the way the towers did without explosives. While you're at it one that collapsed like WTC 7 would also be useful.

As an anthropology student I can see why you would fail to understand the difference between a complete collapse in its footprint, and a partial collapse. This is why people unqualified in such subjects should not be making claims as if they understand them to be facts.

Originally posted by ANOK

What? I am the one that has to keep explaining to you what Pe is. You want to believe all objects have Pe, which is wrong. A body at rest has no Pe, as I have proven.

Silly Truther, every atom within earths gravitational field has gravitational potential energy, with the exception of the atoms at the center of the field. This makes your above statement very wrong.

Remember Truther gravity is a constant force it does not go away.

Originally posted by ANOK
You want to believe all objects have Pe, which is wrong. A body at rest has no Pe, as I have proven.

You have "proven" that only in the fantasy world you appear to inhabit, however in the real world objects get Pe when they are raised above the surface!

snip about a bow,

care to explain what a bow has to do with 9/11?

The formulae for Pe is Pe=mgh

where m=mass of object
g= is gravity
h= is height of the object

You have constantly shown, like most truthers, you have no understand of physics or how things work.

Originally posted by ANOK
Show me ONE building that completely collapsed the way the towers did without explosives

How about you show us a similiar building that was hit by a high speed jet airliner that did not collapse?

You are unable to, so it looks like if a building like the WTC is hit by a high speed jet airliner they will collapse!

Originally posted by ANOK
Why do you keep saying stupid stuff lol?

I prove you're wrong about the physics and this is your reply? Can't you just admit your wrong, and stop with the silly comments? You just don't like losing do you?

Show me ONE building that completely collapsed the way the towers did without explosives. While you're at it one that collapsed like WTC 7 would also be useful.

As an anthropology student I can see why you would fail to understand the difference between a complete collapse in its footprint, and a partial collapse. This is why people unqualified in such subjects should not be making claims as if they understand them to be facts.

Dude, you've never proven anything. You've used rhetoric and conjecture to make your assertions, saying that you are absolutely certain about everything.

I can't show you a building collapsing in the same way as the towers because they had a UNIQUE DESIGN. Ever heard of the word UNIQUE?

WTC 7 was constructed on top of a Con Ed Power Plant. This changes the optimum design.

Also, why do you keep bringing up that I'm an Anthropology student? Just because I'm studying things like evolution and culture, it doesn't mean that I'm not able to see things for what they are, and I can see clearly that you are not using facts and verifiable or testable theories to make your assertions.

All you do is you say it is impossible, and then you cite a basic Newtonian physics model. This is not applying the model or doing any kind of scientific discourse. It is dishonest and ignorant to the extreme.

Originally posted by waypastvne
Remember Truther gravity is a constant force it does not go away.

It apparently does in trutherworld!

no mater how many times it is pointed out that he is wrong, he refuses to accept reality!

Originally posted by spoor

As an anthropology student

That shows why you are lacking in the understanding of basic physics!

He was actually referring to me being an Anthropology student. Apparently that makes me an idiot.