Opinion: Do you guys/gals think that the ETs help make the pyramids?

I guess I am a bit confused now.

Star, are you trying to state that we are to stupid to create things out of nature? I guess I lost what your point is here sorry...

Maybe another ATSer could inform me because I'm not sure, seems other members know what he is talking about but I'm lost..

starsystem --

Consider this:

If aliens helped build the great pyramid, then why does the archeological record show a progression of over 1000 years of construction from:

from
- Stone tombs
to
- Mastabas
to
- Two-level mastabas
to
- Multi-level mastabas
to
- Multi-level mastabas with progressively smaller levels (which is a stepped pyramid)
to
- Small true pyramids
to
- Medium-sized pyramids
to
- Large pyramids
to, finally
- The Great Pyramid at Giza.

If they used alien technology, why did it take them over 1000 years to progressively go from mastaba to the Great Pyramid? -- and with several failed attempts along the way (failures from which the archeological record shows they learned by).

I work at a job, and buy many things, because I lack the knowledge, not the intelligence, to build most of them.

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you dont lack the knowledge my friend you just dont posess the ability to do these things none of us humans do thats where ets come in and help us out...

we are not dumb creatures that need school, we are born with knowledge auotmatically
the reason you cant build these things is the same reason i cant build them...its not in our list of abilities if we had telekeneis, telepathy, and used the rest of our brains, than things like math and science and all that crap would be rellevant...

but since we dont all that is just another launguage so ets who have this ability help us build things

If they used alien technology, why did it take them over 1000 years to progressively go from mastaba to the Great Pyramid?

reply to post by Soylent Green Is People


how do you know this information you wasnt alive during this process but you are alive now open your eyes what do you see around you?

you see humans being servants to some invisble force that has all the knowledge correct?
that invisible force are ets



why would a group of ppl devote their entire existence in building pyramids unless they were being forced to as we are forced today to work( as slaves) or they had help from ets its not in a humans desires to do these type of things, just as it isnt in the dna for a tiger to want to fly through the air with wings to hunt its prey.... thats not how we are wired



sounds like the influence of ets to me

Originally posted by starsystem3
...why would a group of ppl devote their entire existence in building pyramids unless they were being forced to as we are forced today to work( as slaves) or they had help from ets its not in a humans desires to do these type of things, just as it isnt in the dna for a tiger to want to fly through the air with wings to hunt its prey.... thats not how we are wired...

It was a public works project to help keep the citizens employed during the non-growing season. They work paid workers (or at least they were compensated somehow -- perhaps given food and shelter).

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by starsystem3
...why would a group of ppl devote their entire existence in building pyramids unless they were being forced to as we are forced today to work( as slaves) or they had help from ets its not in a humans desires to do these type of things, just as it isnt in the dna for a tiger to want to fly through the air with wings to hunt its prey.... thats not how we are wired...

It was a public works project to help keep the citizens employed during the non-growing season. They work paid workers (or at least they were compensated somehow -- perhaps given food and shelter).

Not only that, but they WERE slaves to the "almight god king" they had no choice. If they were not part of the elite class of slave drivers, doctors, or messengers for the god king, they were a slave. Their main job is to build a tomb for their god king. They lived only to preform that one job. The elite class forced them, by whipping, beating, and if needed, killed to motivate them. Not that hard to understand really. Work or die...

-SAP-

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by starsystem3
...why would a group of ppl devote their entire existence in building pyramids unless they were being forced to as we are forced today to work( as slaves) or they had help from ets its not in a humans desires to do these type of things, just as it isnt in the dna for a tiger to want to fly through the air with wings to hunt its prey.... thats not how we are wired...

It was a public works project to help keep the citizens employed during the non-growing season. They work paid workers (or at least they were compensated somehow -- perhaps given food and shelter).

Not to mention that the majority weren't slaves. It was considered a duty and even an honor to work on the Pyramid - for the greater good of the Egyptian people.

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I would agree, they didn't consider themselves slaves. Even though the elite class may have, they thought of it as a honor to build something great for their king. Even though by definiton they were slaves.

-SAP-

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
Not only that, but they WERE slaves to the "almight god king" they had no choice. If they were not part of the elite class of slave drivers, doctors, or messengers for the god king, they were a slave. Their main job is to build a tomb for their god king. They lived only to preform that one job. The elite class forced them, by whipping, beating, and if needed, killed to motivate them. Not that hard to understand really. Work or die..

No. Not slaves.
The majority of them were working voluntarily, and were treated relatively well.

There may have been a "work or die" mentality of sorts, but only because during the non-growing season the citizens needed to work to make enough money to buy food for themselves and their families. Voluntarily working on the pyramid gave them the ability to feed themselves.

If they didn't work on the pyramid, they may not have a job otherwise, and they wouldn't be able to support themselves or their families.

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This could be right. If you think how council estates and the like work nowa days and how interbred most people are who come from built up areas (not intended as an insult, Im from a council estate my self. I just see that most people meet someone withing a few miles, in most cases less, of were they live). then we have probably dumbed down quite a bit over the years. I think you can see it for your self if you watch the jeremy kyle show.

Originally posted by Soylent Green Is People

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
Not only that, but they WERE slaves to the "almight god king" they had no choice. If they were not part of the elite class of slave drivers, doctors, or messengers for the god king, they were a slave. Their main job is to build a tomb for their god king. They lived only to preform that one job. The elite class forced them, by whipping, beating, and if needed, killed to motivate them. Not that hard to understand really. Work or die..

No. Not slaves.
The majority of them were working voluntarily, and were treated relatively well.

There may have been a "work or die" mentality of sorts, but only because during the non-growing season the citizens needed to work to make enough money to buy food for themselves and their families. Voluntarily working on the pyramid gave them the ability to feed themselves.

If they didn't work on the pyramid, they may not have a job otherwise, and they wouldn't be able to support themselves or their families.

edit on 11/29/2011 by Soylent Green Is People because: (no reason given)

I guess that makes sense. I didn't know that I thought they were slaves unless they belonged to the elite class..You learn something new everyday

Originally posted by starsystem3

If they used alien technology, why did it take them over 1000 years to progressively go from mastaba to the Great Pyramid?

reply to post by Soylent Green Is People

 

how do you know this information you wasnt alive during this process but you are alive now open your eyes what do you see around you?

you see humans being servants to some invisble force that has all the knowledge correct?
that invisible force are ets



why would a group of ppl devote their entire existence in building pyramids unless they were being forced to as we are forced today to work( as slaves) or they had help from ets its not in a humans desires to do these type of things, just as it isnt in the dna for a tiger to want to fly through the air with wings to hunt its prey.... thats not how we are wired



sounds like the influence of ets to me

edit on 29-11-2011 by starsystem3 because: (no reason given)

You have a pitiful view and understanding of the human mind and man's spirit for exploration and endeavour. It is what made the great explorers to find new continents (and the chance of getting rich ;-), Kepler to figure out the motion of the planets and the Egyptians how to build a pyramid.

It must be very sad to live in your world, without curiosity, human spirit and the drive for advancement. Gladly, I live in my world, where humans built the pyramids, discovered the atom, carved Mt. Rushmore, create beautiful art and big screen HDTVs.

Why don't you start reading a few good books and learn how people got to do what they did - what drove a man like James Cook to sail around the world and how he did it - without ET showing him the way. One can only hope that people of your mindset are just a tiny minority.

it really fascinates me that humans believe in kings and doing things for the elite living together in civilizations being forced to do something they dont want to do sounds like et influence to me..


if humans could choose a way to live without these ets all around us we'd probably live like the dogon tribe
free" inorder for money to be rellavent someone who is more powerful than you has to withold your resources from you and make you serve them to be able to get tthose resources back.


i really dont believe humans naturally have this type of mastor over another race type of mentality when you go out the house everyones tryin to survive in this prison we call a planet


we are not building great buildings and statues without technology that has been made by a more advanced creature we just arent

i know you people have so much faith in us and really wantto believe years and years of human knowledge help us do the grreat things we do on this planet


but what about the ability what magical powers did it take to make these tools metal and technology 1st appear in the 1st place in order for humans to be able to use them?

ets are the ones behind this stuff no matter how much you try to defend your brainwashing

reply to post by starsystem3


You credit EVERYTHING mankind has done to ETs...That's a pretty warped view on reality my friend. I am a believer, to say the least, but I know that ETs didn't give us EVERYTHING we have today. They may have put something in, but not EVERYTHING. I just can't wrap my head around that.

Btw, to say we are brainwashed because we don't think the way you think is kind of insulting...Just sayin'

-SAP-

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your brainwashed bcuz you think your right and you was programmed to think this way' and the truth is humans are slaves to a race of ets who snatch away our abilities thats why we rely on this economy stuff like money and repetitive mundane work have you ever played sims? we live primitively with advanced toys n such...

if the ets went away this planet would fall apart and become a shyt hole because we been brainwashed for so long we wouldnt know the 1st clue about how we lived before ets infulenced us

thats why monsanto controls the seeds thats why every where we go these ets make us pay for stuff because they can becuase we are so brainwashed that we come running back to them we cant survive without them

we live in a slave prison when everything should be free
energy should be free, living on land should be free, but since it isnt that means ets are controllin us you have to ask the govt permission to do things:

to build things etc.... thats et influence if you ask me


if we knew how to do all these great things you people say t we wouldnt live this way on this planet now would we ???
this would be utopia

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
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You credit EVERYTHING mankind has done to ETs...That's a pretty warped view on reality my friend.

ET helped me finish the Sudoku the other day.

Harte

Originally posted by Harte

Originally posted by SloAnPainful
reply to post by starsystem3

 

You credit EVERYTHING mankind has done to ETs...That's a pretty warped view on reality my friend.

ET helped me finish the Sudoku the other day.

Harte

Awesome!

ets are responsble for why everything remains in unison do you think its a surprise that when video games systems decide to be released they always make sure they have a certain amount of graphics so they can make room for more next year?

how about cell phones and televisions why are they all using hd technology all at once why is there no independent thought.? everything is in unison so you can waste your money on it
and a new improved version comes out next year

so all the smart humans get together and plan this on us huh?
you guys are pathetic
'
i refuse to believe you are human i think some of you guys are the illluminati trying keep the lies of the world up so no one will wake up

Originally posted by starsystem3
ets are responsble for why everything remains in unison do you think its a surprise that when video games systems decide to be released they always make sure they have a certain amount of graphics so they can make room for more next year?

how about cell phones and televisions why are they all using hd technology all at once why is there no independent thought.? everything is in unison so you can waste your money on it
and a new improved version comes out next year

so all the smart humans get together and plan this on us huh?
you guys are pathetic
'
i refuse to believe you are human i think some of you guys are the illluminati trying keep the lies of the world up so no one will wake up

edit on 29-11-2011 by starsystem3 because: (no reason given)

You got to be kidding right? Givng your previous posts, I find that unlikely. I wish I was the Illuminati, but I am not. I'm just a worker bee trying to support my family and pay my bills. Call me a "slave" or w/e you want to truth is, I try to stay positive about life no matter how mundane it may be.

-SAP-

and thats all you will ever be its just scary to think that any of this is possible so you try to shut it out of your mind you are afraid to know that we are not doing things on our own we have help the ones who hold us captive are the same one who help us, its a messd up relationship but its whats going on


my definition of an an et- is anyone dimensional being that has access to the universe via pineal gland or any other telepathic abilities[

i use et for a lack of a better word i use et so i can be able o communicate with those who are asleep


i assume you think a et is a buuged eyed monster from outer space lol
i speak from experience im not just wasting my time trying to make a fool of myself
what makes me laugh is how everyone wants to say no no no thats wrong but are not contributing to what it is