An ancient and lost Science

Have you ever looked at the pyramids of Egypt or other huge stone structures of immense antiquity and asked yourself the basic question “how the hell did they cut and lift those huge stone blocks”

Well the archaeologists come to our rescue and inform us that one of the hardest stones known to man (granite) was cut using chisels made from one of the softest metals known to man (copper)!

And if that wasn’t enough to add further insult we are told that blocks which weigh up to 14000 tons were lifted by men with vine ropes!
Lets remember now that it is only in recent times that we have developed hydraulic cranes capable of doing this ourselves.

Do you ever get the feeling that archaeologists are perhaps not the most practically gifted people, if they were they would surly know that what they are proposing is impossible.


I propose an experiment lets ask the archaeologists to cut us a 14000 ton block of granite using copper chisels and when they are finished (if they live long enough) to lift it using vine ropes.

The truth is that the ancients had a knowledge, a technology which even today we don’t have. This technology was lost to us because of a cataclysm otherwise known as “the flood”. I some places such as Tibet due to its extreme height above sea level this technology may have existed until fairly recent times. The quote below I believe is as close to the truth as we can hope to get….enjoy!

while at a remote monastery in northern Tibet during the 1930s, he had witnessed the demonstration of two curious sound instruments which could induce weightlessness in stone blocks. The first was an extremely large gong, 3.5 metres in diameter, composed of a central circular area of very soft gold, followed by a ring of pure iron, and finally a ring of extremely hard brass. When struck, it produced an extremely low dumph which ceased almost immediately. The second instrument was also composed of three different metals; it had a half-oval shape like a mussel shell, and measured 2 metres long and 1 metre wide, with strings stretched longitudinally over its hollow surface. Linauer was told that it emitted an inaudible resonance wave when the gong was struck. The two devices were used in conjunction with a pair of large screens, positioned so as to form a triangular configuration with them. When the gong was struck with a large club to produce a series of brief, low-frequency sounds, a monk was able to lift a heavy stone block with just one hand. Linauer was informed that this was how their ancestors had built protective walls around Tibet, and that such devices could also disintegrate physical matter.

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Originally posted by LUXUS
Have you ever looked at the pyramids of Egypt or other huge stone structures of immense antiquity and asked yourself the basic question “how the hell did they cut and lift those huge stone blocks”

Well the archaeologists come to our rescue and inform us that one of the hardest stones known to man (granite) was cut using chisels made from one of the softest metals known to man (copper)!

And if that wasn’t enough to add further insult we are told that blocks which weigh up to 14000 tons were lifted by men with vine ropes!
Lets remember now that it is only in recent times that we have developed hydraulic cranes capable of doing this ourselves.

You realize that that isn't the mainstream theory for how they moved the blocks, right?
Most archaeologists aren't going to say they know for certain how they moved the blocks; it really is still sort of a mystery. However, there have been a couple of engineers who have been able to move massive blocks with out any modern day technology. So it is entirely possible that older cultures made these structures without any modern day tech. Actually, it's not just possible, it's what happened!

If people think ancient people weren't as smart, the people won't understand how ancient people did their thing. They are the same as us. I'm sure the ancient people are looking down at us and saying,"What the f are they doing to our world..."

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I love this stuff. We think we're so clever these days... and its only when you read articles like that, that you wonder 'what do we really know?'

Give me a lever long enough and a fulcrum on which to place it, and I shall move the world. -Archimedes

They probably used levers to move the rocks. Maybe anti-gravity gongs, but probably levers. As for cutting them, experiments have been done with quartz sand, poured in between the cutting edge of a drill and the granite. It's been shown that it's a very plausible way to cut through granite without wearing out tools. (Building the Great Pyramid) All they would have needed was lots of sand. Being in the desert, they would have had lots.

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If there were some type of ancient lost tools. Where is the evidence?

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The enigmatic Giza Pyramids. Till this day the construction of them still baffles me. Egyptologists claim that the Great Pyramid (which was supposedly built by Khufu) was built in 20 years! However, the construction of the pyramids in Egypt do have stages in which they developed, so I don't believe there's any reason for alien intervention. I remember reading about The Mystery of Edward Leedskalnin and the Coral Castle in which he single-handedly built this monumental castle complex.

Whenever Edward Leedskalnin was asked, "How did you build the Castle?" he replied, "It’s not difficult really. The secret is in knowing how." Edward Leedskalnin would go so far as stating that he could see beads of light on objects that he said were the physical presence of nature's magnetism. He explained that scientists have incorrect knowledge of atomic structure and electricity. He stated that all forms of existence are made up of three components, North and South poles and neutral particles of matter. He claimed to have "re-discovered the laws of weight, measurement, and leverage." Edward Leedskalnin stated that these laws "involved the relationship of the Earth to celestial alignments." Beyond these sketchy explanations, Edward didn't say much.

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If you haven't heard about this, I suggest you read it. It's very interesting. Maybe our ancestors did have knowledge of something that is now lost to us. What I would give to travel back in time and see...

Originally posted by Ghost375

However, there have been a couple of engineers who have been able to move massive blocks with out any modern day technology. So it is entirely possible that older cultures made these structures without any modern day tech. Actually, it's not just possible, it's what happened!

How, when and where? When was this done because I just finished watching a documentary about the same topic and nobody, I mean nobody has ever been able to replicate the work ancients have done on those monuments. And the statement was very clear: It takes an inhuman work to move just one of the stone blocks, and a herculean force and work to place it, let alone creating all those intricate formation and alignment and precision we see inside some of the monuments. I don't pretend to know the answer, I'm not even making any assumption about who build those monument but I consider it an insult to my intelligence what the mainstream archeology has been feeding us till now.

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While I like the idea of a neat vibration based ancient technology and really wouldn't even doubt that it could have existed I think the explanation for the construction of the pyramids at Egypt makes more sense. Essentially they moved the blocks on sleds or wood rollers and got them to the top on earthwork ramps.

People often forget the shear number of workers involved here. 1000 workers can complete what is impossible for 10...

Here is a more recent explanation: www.touregypt.net...

Maybe there were aliens or magic technology, but there didn't have to be for it to be completed.

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It seems to me saying it happened this way or that, besides it still being a mystery even to the archeologists.
Is ending everything you said at the beginning with an absolute contradiction at the end.

Could you please make up my mind ?

SnF for you OP

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I actually seen the demonstration of the sand/copper saw,it was pathetic!

When you drill a rock the drill bit makes a spiral marking as it cuts. Using that spiral marking engineers can calculate the feed rate of the drill. Calculations based on this indicate that ultrasonic drilling was used i.e. some type of sonic technology.

Now at the end of that quote see what we are told…such instruments could disintegrate matter. If you could focus that into a beam you could cut and drill the hardest stone with ease!

Also the miniature pyramid they nearly broke there ass making using basic tools had no relevance to the great pyramid.

How would you release a huge block from the bedrock using that method?

The thing is that this sonic technology has been actually witnessed twice and both times in Tibet!

During a visit to a Tibetan monastery situated southwest of the capital Lhasa, the Swede Dr Jarl was taken to a meadow where there was a high cliff to the northwest. About 250 metres up the face of the cliff was an entrance to a cave, in front of which was a wide ledge where monks were building a stone wall. Embedded in the ground 250 metres from the foot of the cliff, was a large rock slab with a bowl-shaped depression in it. A block of stone, 1.5 metres long, 1 metre wide, and 1 metre high, was manhandled into the depression. Monks with 19 musical instruments, consisting of 13 drums and 6 very long trumpets, were arranged in an arc of about 90 degrees, 63 metres from the bowl-stone. The drums, open at one end, were aimed at the stone block. Behind each instrument was a line of monks eight to ten deep. A monk in the middle of the arc started chanting and beating out a rhythm on a small drum, and then the other instruments joined in. After four minutes, the large stone block began to wobble and floated into the air rocking from side to side. All the instruments were trained constantly on the stone as it rose upwards at an accelerating rate and finally crashed onto the ledge. The monks continued to perform this feat at the rate of 5 or 6 stones per hour. The role of the 200 or so monks behind the instruments was unclear: one suggestion is that they used some form of coordinated psychokinesis to aid the flight of the stone.

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See now I think this is cool, and honestly I tend towards believing this. I have seen some amazing things first hand with watered down martial arts that were influenced from the area. It wouldn't even surprise me if I witnessed this first hand (I would definitely be amazed but not surprised.)

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If someone said it then it must be true. Statements come easy, where are the facts? I have already witnessed people cutting granite using the technology mainstream academia states Egyptians had. Stop lying. Deny Ignorance.

Disclaimer: I am not saying mainstream arcaheology has all the answers, but to state the technology could not cut granite is a bold faced lie.

www.bbc.co.uk...

"In recent years, however, a long series of archaeological experiments has been undertaken by the British Egyptologist Denys Stocks. Like many previous researchers, Stocks recognised that the copper alloy drills or saws would have worn away rapidly if used to cut through granite without assistance. He therefore experimented with the addition of quartz sand, poured in between the cutting edge of a drill and the granite, so the sharp crystals could give the drill the necessary 'bite' into the rock, and found that this method could work. It seems a practical solution, as no special teeth would have been needed for the masons' tools, only a good supply of desert sand - and this theory is gaining acceptance in academic circles."

As stated archaeologists are not the most practically gifted people and that is why they think the movement and precision placement of a 2.5 ton block every 2 minutes is reasonable with basic levers!

Anyone with any practical experience i.e. those who actually work in construction will know the impossibility of moving a 2.5 ton block every 2 minutes even with the help of a modern crane.

If they are saying this is possible let them show us, duplicate it and if they cant then they should refrain from making such stupid statements.

Blocks per minute

The pyramid represents an almost inhuman amount of work, often visualized by calculating how frequent a block has to be put down. The calculation rest on a number of assumptions: the total number of blocks is 2.3 million the time of construction was 20 years the daily work went on for 10 hours of daylight work was done every day in the year How many hours were available? 10 hours in 365 days in 20 years are 10 × 365 × 20 = 73 000 hours. Then 2.3 million blocks were placed in 73 000 hours. Every hour were placed 2.3 million blocks / 73 000 hours = 31.5 blocks.

Or 1 block every 2 minutes.

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Just as an "out there" type theory, is it possible that previous species of humans had differing abilities with their brains? Humans have been around for several million years. Modern humans (us) have been around for a few hundred thousand years. There have been various incarnations, each with differing characteristics. Is it possible that one of the strands of humanity had, well, more telekinetic abilities? Or were just much stronger than us?

We keep revising our knowledge of ancient history as new discoveries keep telling us that we actually know very little.

Im not entirely sure that i buy into this but it is definitely worth considering!

The bible tells us "there were giants in those days". Seems like the only plausible solution to me. Giants could get er' done.

lots of people are looking into Leedskanlens magnetic apparatus.he built a corral castle and still no one knows how? And this was in modern times ! In a community of people one man single handedly built a megalithic complex without one person knowing how. We are barking up the wrong tree with the' legions of slave workers taking multiple decades' theory

So I gave two independent eye witness of this technology in Tibet, perhaps you need a third?

Many of you may know of the work of the occultist H. P. Blavatsky who studied under Tibetan masters, later publishing the book “The Secret Doctrine”. She has the following to say on the subject:

"We say and maintain that sound, for one thing, is a tremendous Occult power; that it is a stupendous force, of which the electricity generated by a million of Niagaras could never counteract the smallest potentiality when directed with occult knowledge. Sound may be produced of such a nature that the pyramid of Cheops would be raised in the air, or that a dying man, nay, one at his last breath, would be revived and filled with new energy and vigour….as one saved thrice from death by that power, the writer ought to be credited with knowing personally something about it."

The Secret Doctrine 1:555

Originally posted by LUXUS
Have you ever looked at the pyramids of Egypt or other huge stone structures of immense antiquity and asked yourself the basic question “how the hell did they cut and lift those huge stone blocks”

Well the archaeologists come to our rescue and inform us that one of the hardest stones known to man (granite) was cut using chisels made from one of the softest metals known to man (copper)!

No archaeologists have ever claimed that any granite in any pyramid was ever cut with copper chisels.

Straw man.

Originally posted by LUXUS

And if that wasn’t enough to add further insult we are told that blocks which weigh up to 14000 tons were lifted by men with vine ropes!

No stones in any Egyptian construction (or any other ancient construction) weigh even one-tenth of what you claim.

If you think you might want to be taken seriously, perhaps you should make at least some effort to write a serious post.

Harte