If Ron Paul doesnt win, America will regret it.

Hi people!, okay so ive noticed how the media has started to ignore him A LOT! recently... they always point towards Rick Perry or someone else! when all they talk about is creating jobs.
So yeah you got the "more jobs" created...what about everything else? like REALLY bringing our troops home!! and not in years...within months please!.

Ron Paul has been legit with non flip-flop statements for years, hell even decades.
Ron Paul Revolution restore the constitution

HE IS THE REAL DEAL

I don't think that the millions of retired people, disabled and single working parents would regret it.

reply to post by muse7


Really? they didnt regret it when Bush screwed up?

You are absolutely correct. Which is why people need to wake up fast. If Ron Paul doesnt win or if there is something which stops him entering the final stages of the race then I truely believe the only way America can have true freedom once again will be by fighting another civil war.

I agreed with the title. I think if he doesn't win, we will be closer to a civil war (again), or finish like the Soviet Union, devided. Hmmmm.....Maybe that's what "THEY" want.

I don't see a better candidate than Ron Paul, do you?

We're already regretting the loss of his last presidential run.
The damage done by our government in the past 4 years seems impossible to repair.

If our next president, be it my boy Ron or not, doesn't start fixing things .. I just shiver from the possibilities.
OWS will be just one phenomena among many more that will become increasingly pervasive.
~shiver~

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reply to post by ApplesOnFire


People, bookmark this thread.

The BIGGEST threat facing out nation and the World is not "radical Islam". The biggest threat to humanity are the financial terrorists and their Financial Weapons of Mass Destruction ("FWMD").

Problem Reaction Solution. They create the problem, which elicits the reaction, then they move forward with their preplanned solution.

There is NO ONE, let alone a Presidential candidate, who is better suited to protect our nation from these FWMD.

And when the financial bomb finally detonates on America, the President will be called upon to declare martial law. Ron Paul is the ONLY one who will NOT declare martial law, bet on it.

America already has so much to regret.

Starting with the Federal Reserve Act...Thanks, Woodrow.

reply to post by ApplesOnFire


They'll regret it because like the other eight candidates of that party, Ron Paul is basically a self-centered sociopath. It's well and good for him to talk about slashing into our social safety net even more than has already been done. it makes good play for the short-sighted misanthropes who go "I've got mine so you can go to hell." Unfortunately this isn't just a political game chip. There are real people who really are dependent on these services. People who cannot help themselves.

Ron Paul's economic position is completely identical to Bachman or Perry on this - people who really are dependent will just have to starve and die under any of the republican economic "plans." Why?

Because Paul's deep-pocketed buddies in the "health" industry don't want to pay taxes.

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


You know, I've agreed with you on a couple things, trying to look past your extreme left partisan views on most things and be open minded, especially when it comes to OWS... But WTF?

Ron Paul is basically a self-centered sociopath.

Seriously?? You're starting to make me sick. You have bitched and moaned about all the crap-talk against your savior Obama, yet you're completely willing to say some stupid crap like that. Take your political partisan BS trolling somewhere else. Your rhetoric has reached stupid levels.

In my opinion, Ron Paul is literally the last hope for America using "the system". He's the only possible chance to stop this country from literally coming apart, or becoming the fascist states of America. While I realize we're nearly there. That's why those against Ron Paul are literally against their own future. One day people will realize this and so much more, so much regret, so much denial.

reply to post by ApplesOnFire


Ron Paul CAN'T win. They will not let him.

I think that we should all abstain from voting next year. There are no good candidates on either side.

reply to post by Wookiep


People treat Ron Paul like a savior here on ATS.

What's the difference?

Originally posted by The Sword
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People treat Ron Paul like a savior here on ATS.

What's the difference?

Because IF he isn't a sold out shill, which it appears almost certain he's not, if he did the things he is saying we might have a country. It's literally that simple. I'm surprised we've lasted this long, it wont go on forever. Ending the wars isn't enough? Ending the Federal Reserve isn't enough? He is hope on two legs of a very non-religious type.

Originally posted by Wookiep
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You know, I've agreed with you on a couple things, trying to look past your extreme left partisan views on most things and be open minded, especially when it comes to OWS... But WTF?

Seriously?? You're starting to make me sick. You have bitched and moaned about all the crap-talk against your savior Obama, yet you're completely willing to say some stupid crap like that. Take your political partisan BS trolling somewhere else. Your rhetoric has reached stupid levels.

edit on 8-11-2011 by Wookiep because: (no reason given)

Do you understand that you really have no place to stand to accuse me of being "partisan" or looking on a politician as a "savior"? 'Cause here I am, pointing out the huge flaw of Paul as a candidate, and why I hold that position, and your response is to act like I wiped my behind with an icon of your patron saint or something, and then sticking a wad of bubble gum in your ears and scream really loud so you don't hear such blasphemy.

Can you formulate an actual defense of the Republican economic plan, or are you just going to keep wallowing around in what you wish was being said, like those morons who thought Obama was a "peace candidate"?

Originally posted by The Sword
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People treat Ron Paul like a savior here on ATS.

What's the difference?

What's the difference "The Sword"? The difference is, at least RP supporters have had the dignity to tell the difference between obvious political trolling and potential world-changing decisions needed to be made in order to come to some semblance of "help" this country (and world) is in dire need of.

What was the whole Obama camp about anyway? Didn't they want "change"? I'll be dammed, I thought that's what the people wanted too!

All we ever hear from BOTH parties is the same nonsense rhetoric that spells out one thing: The party they are representing matters no matter what! If Obama decides to destroy Libya (even tho liberals apparently HATE war so much!! blah blah blah) It's ok JUST because they are leftists and have to support their savior!

Do you think RP supporters would support Ron Paul if he decided to bomb IRAN JUST BECAUSE it was Ron Paul ordering it?? Think again. Although, RP is the figurehead that historically has_not followed "TPTB".

Also, If you think Ron Paul in reality represents the right, then you are ignorant. Ron Paul is running on the right because it's his best chance.

Everyone knows the media and the PTB won't let Ron Paul win, well because he actually makes SENSE. God forbid anyone try to actually do anything that makes sense in this God-forsaken country.

Seriously, do you really think one man can change everything and fix your problems ? Ron Paul wont keep 99% of his promises if elected, none of the presidential canditates will. How many of you were on Obama waggon ?!
Nothing is going to change as long as our representatives are controlled by lobbyists.

reply to post by TheWalkingFox


Yeah yeah yeah. We've all heard your left wing motivated stories before. We could turn this into a giant paradox if you'd like? This thing could end up circular and then we'd have no winners, right? You're no better than those you accuse. Just knock it off, you aren't fooling anyone. If you are, then I feel sorry for those people who are fooled.

Your weakness is that you fail to realize there are some people out there who have genuine stances for this country and they don't make choices based on if it's "left or right." You clearly do. Anyone who wishes to understand better can simply check your post history.

reply to post by ApplesOnFire


Someone that's not willing to change their mind, is stubborn and probably stupid because of it. I think Ron Paul has trouble all over him. He's starting to remind me of governor bush. He's good enough, but only because of a complete lack of options.

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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Ron Paul's economic position is completely identical to Bachman or Perry on this - people who really are dependent will just have to starve and die under any of the republican economic "plans." Why?

Americans cant afford the welfare state and we cant afford the warfare state.

Social Security, Medicare and Medicaid are bankrupt. The housing bubble wiped out people’s equity. Health care and education costs have skyrocketed. Nationalized test scores are at an all time low. Student loan debt has now surpassed that of credit cards topping $1 trillion dollars… EVERY program the federal government touches results in failure, skyrocketing costs or bankruptcy and the American people are sick and tired of shouldering the burden.

As Ron Paul has argued, these functions should be handled on the state level where people have much more scrutiny and control over their government.

Furthermore, this cycle of spending, borrowing and accumulating debt is devaluing our currency via inflation. This is the single most detrimental factor in the life of EVERY American. Because of this vicious cycle, the purchasing power of the dollar is MUCH less now than it was just 10 years ago let alone 20, 30 or 40 years ago.

The only way people can make do with less, is if our money buys MORE.

As Ron Paul has argued, immediate cuts in spending can be made by dismantling our overseas empire and ending foreign welfare.

Only then can we being to reform our government’s failed domestic programs and restore the purchasing power of our currency.

Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Because Paul's deep-pocketed buddies in the "health" industry don't want to pay taxes.

As far as Ron Paul's "deep-pocketed buddies in the health industry", its Obama who bailed out the health care monopoly by ordering us to buy health care… Don’t think this makes sense? Allow me to introduce you to someone who understands the system probably better than both you and me: