Occupy Building 7 – November 19 and 20

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Occupy Building 7 – November 19 and 20
Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:50100% of readers think this story is Fact. November 19 and 20

•March from Liberty Plaza to WTC 7 at noon each day.
•Occupy the park in front of WTC 7 until nightfall.
•General Assemblies will be held at 2pm each day to discuss the direction and continuation of the Occupy Building 7 occupation after 11/20.

On Saturday November 19 and Sunday November 20, we will march from Liberty Plaza to Building 7 and occupy the park in front of Building 7 until nightfall. We hope this will mark the beginning of a sustained Occupy Building 7 movement that will grow and finally bring meaningful attention to the obvious demolition of World Trade Center Building 7 and the dire need for a new 9/11 investigation

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Bldg 7 was not hit by a plane on 911 but inexplicably underwent unitary collapse at 530 PM that day. No way to explain it except the obvious way which is controlled demo. That's why the govt had it rebuilt and open for business (in the hopes we'd forget about it) a couple years later while the twin towers have never been rebuilt. Thanks to the internet people have not forgotten it. It's the smokiest gun in history.

reply to post by Make Speed Limit 45


Thanks to the internet, people have forgotten a lot of things. Like how building 7 was hit by debris from building 1, and how it was on fire for around 7 hours while firefighters watched it and determined it was going to collapse. Even news stations accidentally reported it collapsing early because everyone was certain that the building was in bad shape. It was creaking and bowing in 3 floors according to firefighter testimonies.

But no, you're right. We need to waste time occupying building 7. Yay, ignorance...

Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by Make Speed Limit 45

 

Thanks to the internet, people have forgotten a lot of things. Like how building 7 was hit by debris from building 1, and how it was on fire for around 7 hours while firefighters watched it and determined it was going to collapse. Even news stations accidentally reported it collapsing early because everyone was certain that the building was in bad shape. It was creaking and bowing in 3 floors according to firefighter testimonies.

But no, you're right. We need to waste time occupying building 7. Yay, ignorance...

And how Building 4 was hit by 10000X more debris and fires yet still didn't collapse?

Originally posted by v1rtu0s0

Originally posted by Varemia
reply to post by Make Speed Limit 45

 

Thanks to the internet, people have forgotten a lot of things. Like how building 7 was hit by debris from building 1, and how it was on fire for around 7 hours while firefighters watched it and determined it was going to collapse. Even news stations accidentally reported it collapsing early because everyone was certain that the building was in bad shape. It was creaking and bowing in 3 floors according to firefighter testimonies.

But no, you're right. We need to waste time occupying building 7. Yay, ignorance...

And how Building 4 was hit by 10000X more debris and fires yet still didn't collapse?

And how building 4 was designed completely differently and didn't suffer the same kind of fire damage? Yeah, real logical guys.

Originally posted by Varemia

Even news stations accidentally reported it collapsing early because everyone was certain that the building was in bad shape.

i thought news outlets had the job to report news and facts, not make predictions.
just another one of them weird coincidences huh...?

Yay, ignorance...

exactly

Originally posted by kn0wh0w
i thought news outlets had the job to report news and facts, not make predictions.
just another one of them weird coincidences huh...?

You obviously never watch TV. News stations get stuff wrong all the time. They hear people say things, and they report it. Who knows what sound bite they listened to when they came to the conclusion that building 7 had collapsed. Point is, they were wrong, and it happens. Doesn't suddenly make them in on it. Like I said, firefighters knew the building would collapse for hours. You guys never seem to respond to that sentiment.

Originally posted by Make Speed Limit 45

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Occupy Building 7 – November 19 and 20
Sunday, November 06, 2011 11:50100% of readers think this story is Fact. November 19 and 20

•March from Liberty Plaza to WTC 7 at noon each day.
•Occupy the park in front of WTC 7 until nightfall.
•General Assemblies will be held at 2pm each day to discuss the direction and continuation of the Occupy Building 7 occupation after 11/20.

On Saturday November 19 and Sunday November 20, we will march from Liberty Plaza to Building 7 and occupy the park in front of Building 7 until nightfall. We hope this will mark the beginning of a sustained Occupy Building 7 movement that will grow and finally bring meaningful attention to the obvious demolition of World Trade Center Building 7 and the dire need for a new 9/11 investigation

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Congratulations, truthers, you just took a good and honorable movement like the Occupy Wall Street and raped it like it was a five dollar whore.

The entire reason for the OWS was to protest the economic practices of the 1% ruining the lives of the rest of the 99%. The crap they're doing now is a far sight worse than anything the robber barons did back in the 1800's- at least Carnegie and J.P. Morgan built steel and Oil industries. Pirahnas like Goldman Sachs do nothing but use the poverty of people against them to make money and they get millions in bonuses to do it. If nothing else, the march is putting public attention on them and getting people to wake up and see what's going on.

Let's face it, the only reason why the truthers are pulling this stunt is because they're getting desperate. Noone is taking their "Lasers from outer space", "Armies of Satan worshipping secret agents", etc stories seriously and they've been caught lying through their teeth time after time, so they have to reinvent themselves by using a methodology that works. Now, to keep their movement alive they have to resort to attaching themselves to the OWS movement and are sucking their honor and interity like a leech. Now, thanks to the truthers, people are going to associate the OWS protest against unrepentent corporate greed with unrepentent abject paranoia. Instead of the 99% protesting the actions of the 1%, it's now the 1% forcing their goofball "hologram planes" baloney onto the 99%.

It's disgusting and horribly selfish. If the truthers want to hold a protest march, leave the OWS out of it.

Originally posted by thedman
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Is this what JREFers have reduced themselves to, schoolyard name calling and advocating violence against 9/11 Truthers?

Originally posted by GoodOlDave
Let's face it, the only reason why the truthers are pulling this stunt is because they're getting desperate. Noone is taking their ... stories seriously

Then why are you here almost daily trying to combat the truth movement if no one is taking our "stories" seriously?

and they've been caught lying through their teeth time after time

IMO, this is not a good thing. I am all about 9/11 truth, especially building 7, but I think the Occupy movement needs to remain independent of specific groups like 9/11 truth.

Worry about the banks and corporations, 9/11 truth will come later. Otherwise we are going to compromise the movement even more than those who claims its a socialist union movement.

Originally posted by Varemia
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Thanks to the internet, people have forgotten a lot of things. Like how building 7 was hit by debris from building 1, and how it was on fire for around 7 hours while firefighters watched it and determined it was going to collapse. ...

Bldg 7 was ON A SEPARATE BLOCK from tower 1. Separated by Vesey street. And tower 1 also collapsed straight down anyway so very little debris hit 7 and what did, damaged just one side of the building. How can that cause the whole thing to collapse together??

And the fires were very small.

And the only way firefighters could know collapse was imminent is if it was controlled demo. Buildings just don't collapse for no reason. From the north side Bldg 7 looked perfect.

Originally posted by sheepslayer247
IMO, this is not a good thing. I am all about 9/11 truth, especially building 7, but I think the Occupy movement needs to remain independent of specific groups like 9/11 truth.

Worry about the banks and corporations, 9/11 truth will come later. Otherwise we are going to compromise the movement even more than those who claims its a socialist union movement.

I hear you dood but i feel the banks were the cause of both the economic mess and 911. Have you ever asked yourself why Bldg 7 was collapsed. It was not necessary for a pretext to attack iraq. The twin towers sufficed. There was some extremely incriminating financial information stored in bldg 7.

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ATH911:

Part of the reason that 9/11 truth is not taken seriously is that people like Good'OlDave and myself don't allow BS theories to go unchallenged on internet sites like this.

My own motivation stems from the fact that I hate people who lie. Especially those who lie to stoke fear and paranoia. If I can hinder their progress, I consider that a small good deed for the day.

Originally posted by Varemia
Thanks to the internet, people have forgotten a lot of things. Like how building 7 was hit by debris from building 1, and how it was on fire for around 7 hours while firefighters watched it and determined it was going to collapse.

How can you make that claim when you have been involved in discussions about why fire and debris from WTC 1 couldn't have caused the complete collapse? Did you forget that when you thought that most people have forgotten that WTC 7 was on fire and hit by debris?

You must have forgotten all the pics of WTC 7 in its own footprint, you still have failed to explain how that happens from fire and debris from WTC 1.

Here's a reminder...





Does this discussion ever move forward? You fail to address your points that have been debunked, and you go on using those debunked points again, and again. It was an OS supporter who once said that, repeated actions expecting a different result is the sign of insanity. Well I guess it must also be true when they say, it takes one to know one.

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I agree with you, but if OWS gets involved with 9/11 truth their credibility will be shot. I support both OWS and 9/11 truth, but even I will be ticked if OWS takes this route.

Originally posted by ATH911
Then why are you here almost daily trying to combat the truth movement if no one is taking our "stories" seriously?

I have never concealed my motives...the con artists behind those damned fool conspiracy web sites are churning out every and any ridiculous claim from "Lasers from outer space" to "cults of Satan worshipping numerologists", and I'll wager anything you want that it's one of those snake oil peddlers who's behind this "Occupy WTC 7" thing too. Every single thing the truthers have been spouting can be traced to the same five or six snake oil peddlers milking the truthers' gullibility for their own financial gain, over and over, and I can't see how this is any different.

EDIT: I just looked it up- it's that con artist Richard Gage and his ae911truth bunch who's behind this. Apparently people aren't paying to attend his conferences as they used to, so now he's bringing his conference to them.

Originally posted by Make Speed Limit 45
Bldg 7 was ON A SEPARATE BLOCK from tower 1. Separated by Vesey street. And tower 1 also collapsed straight down anyway so very little debris hit 7 and what did, damaged just one side of the building. How can that cause the whole thing to collapse together??

Lie #1) The north tower was so gigantically huge that even falling straight down is going to cause wreckage to be thrown out great distances. Building five had a giant crater in the roof from falling wreckage from the north tower, and it's the same distance from the north tower as WTC 7. First responders said a full quarter of building 7 was smashed up, and survivors in WTC 7 said the lobby looked like King Kong came by and destroyed the lobby.

And the fires were very small.

Lie #2) Fire fighters specifically reported the fires were burning out of control in WTC 7 because the collapse of the north tower destroyed the water supplies to the fire supporession systems in WTC 7.

And the only way firefighters could know collapse was imminent is if it was controlled demo. Buildings just don't collapse for no reason. From the north side Bldg 7 looked perfect.

Lie #3) Deputy chief Peter Hayden reported the out of control fires were causing a three story tall bulging in the side of the structure, and a fire lieutenant reported the building was making creaking noises. Everyone who was there knew the bulding was going to fall.

Let me guess, with out looking it up- you got your "facts" from AE911truth, didn't you? They're the ones who are behind this "Occupy WTC 7" stunt after all.

Originally posted by GoodOlDave
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Lie #3) Deputy chief Peter Hayden reported the out of control fires were causing a three story tall bulging in the side of the structure, and a fire lieutenant reported the building was making creaking noises. Everyone who was there knew the bulding was going to fall.

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No one thought it was going to fall and certainly no one thought it would undergo unitary collapse. That's what really hurts the govt story. All three scrapers collapsed straight down!!!! But hey - bush explained that by saying a skyscraper is just a stack of pancakes!!!