Occupy Boston Occupies Israeli Consulate After Flotilla Is Stopped

Originally posted by The Sword
reply to post by SLAYER69

 

Since when do random images paint a bigger picture?

Eyes wide shut?
Since when does posting images of whats really going such a problem?

I love how the OWS opponents are reduced to using isolated incidents to paint the movement as a whole in a negative light.

Negative light? Are those negative images of whats really going on? I'm glad you pointed the obvious out for everybody to read and understand.

It's true that some groups will latch onto movements such as this to get their points across. The last time I checked, they weren't going to benefit otherwise because those parties are still fringe parties.

Then what the hell is the Goddamn message?

Originally posted by Rockpuck
reply to post by Corruption Exposed

 

So OWS is protesting Israel now? We can add this to the list of things they protest. Like last week when they tried to occupy a BoA lobby because they invested in coal production.

WTF does this have to do with .. anything .. remotely related to the livelihood of Americans?

Nothing.

So we can just chalk this up as another publicity stunt by OWS for protesting yet a another new topic without solutions that, if we don't all stand behind, we are "sheeples."

It's getting really old.

Is there a manifesto that defines what they can and cannot protest against?

As other people have mentioned, there is a lack of leadership, goals, and objectives. Due to this, you can't expect them to be very organized or consistent. I know there are a lot of morons participating in OWS but there are a lot of regular people who are just sick of it and have no idea how to change things and this feels like their only hope.

It could be considered a publicity stunt, but these stunts are quite common. Politicians, actors, musicians all use publicity stunts, why can't protesters? Are they excluded from the club of people who are allowed to use publicity stunts?

Originally posted by The Sword
Since when do random images paint a bigger picture?

That garbage on the streets werent' random because it must have taken quite a few people to add to that garbage if you look at it's size

reply to post by ModernAcademia

If you spread your very young wings too wide you won't cover anything These people have zero focus

I think the Myth of Icarus is instructive here. In that myth, Daedalus', Icarus' father, a master craftsman was imprisoned on the Island of Crete along with his son. He was imprisoned because he had constructed a Labyrinth for King Minos who wanted to trap the Minotaur. Daedalus was imprisoned because he had used his knowledge of the Labyrinth he built to help Theseus defeat the Minotaur.

Daedalus, not one to acquiesce to tyranny, fashioned wings from feathers, string, and wax, for both he and his son Icarus. He taught his son how to use the wings so that they could both fly off of the Island they were imprisoned. He warned Icarus not to fly too high lest the sun melt the wax of the wings, destroying the wings, and causing disaster. After learning to fly, Daedalus and Icarus set forth on their great escape.

In the air, Icarus was spellbound by this exhilarating experience and, in spite of his fathers dire warnings, dared to soar where eagle soar. Getting far to close to the sun, the wax on his wings melt, his wings fall apart, and Icarus plummets to his death. Daedalus' fly's to safety, living the rest of his life in despair at having watched his son plummet to his own death.

This myth is generally seen as a cautionary tale of hubris. In mythology, the tragic hero is always felled by his own hubris, and Icarus is, if nothing else, a tragic hero. However, more than this, I think we can discern a tale of a conservative father, brilliant, strong, fierce in his belief of justice and liberty, and of a liberal Icarus, young, brash, but just as enamored with liberty as his father.

While the Icarus like "Occupy" movement wants to be petulant and hate their conservative detractors, it should be understood that Daedalus loved Icarus, and in this nation, genuine conservatives love liberals. How could they not? Who doesn't want to soar where eagles dare? Who doesn't want to enjoy the brashness of youth and the sureness and confidence that also comes with youth? The conservative is not so because they revile liberalism, they love liberty too. The difference between the two lies in prudence. The difference between Daedalus and Icarus is hubris. Hubris doesn't always kill, but it certainly fells the hero.

The hubris of this so called "OWS" movement was evident almost from the get-go, and while they love to scream to the world and declare "watch us soar" their flight is untenable, and if they cannot learn to exercise more caution in where they fly, it is only a matter of time before they plummet.

now protesting israel is something I can really get behind. they are problem numeral uno, and a case can be made for them and the problems being protested in the world's financial sectors.

Coming soon to a town near you......

Occupy Beach, Occupy Ghetto, Occupy stadiums sorry that one happens every weekend, Occupy Libraries, Occupy Forest, Occupy Landfill, Occupy ETC.

No grievance is too small. If you have a problem with it,don't complain, just OCCUPY it. Guaranteed to solve your problem.

reply to post by jam321


God can they please Occupy all these singing shows like Glee or American Idol?
Please man, Occupy Reality TV and also Occupy Kim Kardashian's breats.

Enough is Enough already!!!!

reply to post by Corruption Exposed


Is it a surprise to anyone that OWS is now supporting anti-Israel flotillas? I already showed in THIS previous post the connection between Soros’s groups and OWS. Groups funded by Soros are well known for going after the Jewish people. Soros himself actively participated in the Holocaust, confiscating property of fellow Jews for the Nazis before they were lead to their deaths. This is a despicable person by any measure. Check this out:

American Thinker

Soros is the moneybags behind Moveon.org and Media Matters, two Leftwing fronts that constantly try to drop Black PR bombs in the media, always trying to smear the democratic Right. But they are so rage-driven, so far beyond the pale, that they risk triggering a backlash. Moveon and Media Matters are slander squads funded by György Schwartz, later known as György Soros (with two sh-sounds), and later George Soros, US citizen. In his autobiograpy, modestly entitled Soros on Soros, he described how as a teenager he helped to cart off the stolen possessions of Hungarian Jewish men, women and children after they were rounded up and transported to death camps. He claims it never bothered him a bit, and still doesn't bother him today. He has no personal regrets about his actions. "Somebody would have done it."

OWS is bought and paid for and anyone still participating is being completely played. The fact that they have been compelled to support a Gaza flotilla is proof that they are being driven by bigger forces. Gaza Flotillas are clearly engaged in resupplying the enemy of our ally, Israel. The enemy of our ally is our enemy too! Therefore, anyone who supports the enemy of our ally can rightfully be classified as unpatriotic at the very least.

Flotilla Facts

The maritime blockade of Gaza is legitimate, as the terrorists based there have fired thousands of rockets into southern Israel over the past several years. Many of those weapons, and the materials to make them, arrived via maritime transport.

Part of the problem with a lot of you is that you are to proud to admit that your country is screwed and is ran by sick people who don't give a squat about you. Your patriotism contributes towards your conditioning.

Oh and I have a great career and am able to find happiness. But i don't let that blind me.

"I love my job and my family so the world has to be perfectly fine"

Guess what, you're pathetic existence is not the center of the universe you selfish people!

Originally posted by Truth4Thought
Part of the problem with a lot of you is that you are to proud to admit that your country is screwed and is ran by sick people who don't give a squat about you. Your patriotism contributes towards your conditioning.

Oh and I have a great career and am able to find happiness. But i don't let that blind me.

"I love my job and my family so the world has to be perfectly fine"

Guess what, you're pathetic existence is not the center of the universe you selfish people!

Crawl back under your rock, hater! You don't know anyone here. You're just an angry person who hates Americans. By the way, you don't even know what patriotism is. We're all here debating issues because we want to see our country go in the right direction (though we disagree what that looks like today). This is how it works in America...we debate...we support the people who represent our views....then we vote! Sometimes we even need to protest. You're pathetic! And America IS the center of the universe!!

Originally posted by SLAYER69

Originally posted by technologicalsingularity
what they should have done is completely surrounded the consulate and prevented any staff from leaving the building...

No!

What they should BE doing is clarifying their stance on why they are occupying Wall Street in the first place. If they are going to be conducting these types of activities then they should become a real political entity with leadership, direction, content and have a real Agenda.

Not MOB rule.

edit on 6-11-2011 by SLAYER69 because: (no reason given)

And this is reason WHY many dont believe OWS is APOLITICAL!

For ALL you OWS supporters,this in itself goes against EVERYTHING you are trying to accomplish,and what you said this movement is about..

What does this have to do about greed,and the banks? Corporatism? Capitalism?



Absolutely spot on Slayer.....

reply to post by seabag


I put a rebuttal to the whole Soros OWS connection in a different thread here on ATS and I used non-partisan sources to do it.

Funny the Yahoo article is sourced from this Reuters article that has this title:

Soros: not a funder of Wall Street protests

Here's the first paragraph of the Reuters piece:

(Reuters) - George Soros isn't a financial backer of the Wall Street protests, despite speculation by critics including radio host Rush Limbaugh that the billionaire investor has helped fuel the anti-capitalist movement.

Source:www.reuters.com...
Here's the ATS thread I got that from:www.abovetopsecret.com...
Ad hominem attacks on the protesters might make everyone feel good to say and get you brownie points in the echo chamber, but they're pretty pointless.
These flotillas would be pointless if the average Gazan wasn't suffering, women and kids aren't firing those rockets, Israel needs to figure something out there.

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed


Is there a manifesto that defines what they can and cannot protest against?

So where is the protesting against Obama ?

America is tired of his act !

Oh yes,Flotillas are WAY more important.

Enough said.

reply to post by sonnny1


If you want to protest about Obama go right ahead. It would be just as pointless as you assume OWS to be though considering that Obama is nothing but a figurehead and has no influence in the decisions made behind the scenes.

Those people in Boston felt like protesting Israel that day and I say good for them.

Whats off topic about saying theres nothing anti semite about the ows sitting in the israel embassy lol

Originally posted by SLAYER69



Then what the hell is the Goddamn message?

See its becoming a shell game where they can protest ANYTHING in the name of OWS,and call it OWS,even though it never meant anything connected to OWS.Of course if it doesnt fly with the many supporters of this movement,and they cant conveniently convince themselves this is part of the message,they will call it a fringe offshoot of OWS. Plausible denial anyone? No agenda here,right? EVERYTHING goes with this protest......

Originally posted by jlv70
reply to post by seabag

 

I put a rebuttal to the whole Soros OWS connection in a different thread here on ATS and I used non-partisan sources to do it.

Funny the Yahoo article is sourced from this Reuters article that has this title:

Soros: not a funder of Wall Street protests

Here's the first paragraph of the Reuters piece:

(Reuters) - George Soros isn't a financial backer of the Wall Street protests, despite speculation by critics including radio host Rush Limbaugh that the billionaire investor has helped fuel the anti-capitalist movement.

Source:www.reuters.com...
Here's the ATS thread I got that from:www.abovetopsecret.com...
Ad hominem attacks on the protesters might make everyone feel good to say and get you brownie points in the echo chamber, but they're pretty pointless.
These flotillas would be pointless if the average Gazan wasn't suffering, women and kids aren't firing those rockets, Israel needs to figure something out there.

edit on 6-11-2011 by jlv70 because: (no reason given)

That’s a nice try but anyone can trace the money. Actually, there is controversy over the Reuters piece.

Observer

Update 7:24pm: Reuters has reverted the post back to its original story (Who’s behind the Wall Street protests?), and added a different URL to host the updated one (Soros: not a funder of Wall Street protests). So it looks like they’re running both pieces with no indication that the other one exists. Reuters Social Media Editor Anthony DeRosa said on Twitter that there was a “note added at bottom with link to original story, which should have been done in the first place” but we don’t see it at this URL. Or the other one. Got it? Yeah, we’re confused, too.

Reuters caused a bit of a stir today when they published a story connecting George Soros to Occupy Wall Street. This did not go over well, because the connection was tenuous at best, and at its worst, patently questionable.

So: Reuters changed the story. Not “corrected,” or “published a rebuttal to the original reporting,” but “changed the story.”

There are numerous articles that tie Soros to OWS. Just because you’re trying to smear it won’t make it go away!

LINK

The nonprofit organization at the receiving end of Soros’ largesse, Alliance for Global Justice, is managing donations benefiting the communists, socialists, anarchists and hippies now occupying Zuccotti Park in lower Manhattan. As of Oct. 19, OWS had taken in a grand total of $435,000 from all sources, including donations made by individuals online and in person, according to reports. It should surprise no one that Soros (net worth: $22 billion), the ultimate Wall Street insider and preeminent funder of the activist Left today, embraces Occupy Wall Street.

Originally posted by Corruption Exposed
reply to post by sonnny1

 

If you want to protest about Obama go right ahead. It would be just as pointless as you assume OWS to be though considering that Obama is nothing but a figurehead and has no influence in the decisions made behind the scenes.

Those people in Boston felt like protesting Israel that day and I say good for them.

There is NO protesting of Obama from OWS. Figurehead my Butt....................

BTW,you wouldn't have a problem with the Neo Nazis joining the OWS group of protesters in Boston?

Apolitical right?


They got a gripe with Israel also...........................

reply to post by sonnny1


You're the one who mentioned Obama not me. I'm puzzled as to what your point is.

I don't agree with most of the values Neo-Nazism possess but if they wanted to join OWS I can't stop them. Once again I fail to understand your point

Seemed like an off topic rant to me.