Death Highlights Problems with Drugs and Group Sex at Occupy Vancouver

Originally posted by AtticusRye

Originally posted by cyberether

Originally posted by AtticusRye
A woman has died of a possible drug overdose at "Occupy Vancouver" with several more having been treated for problems involving drugs in the past few days. The Vancouver Fire Department and provincial health service are expressing concern at needle sharing, drug dealing and public group sex at the encampment.

www.cbc.ca...
www.vancouversun.com...

Do 99% of Canadians engage in public group sex and recreational drug use? (Not a dig, just a question.)

those are included in 99% and as well in the 1% they are not a determing factor of 99% nor 1%.
you know that the 99% or the 1% are not about this factor.

+ you are supporting gaddafi , im not blaming your for that but he is well knowned for his orgy did you know that ? i ask you that because you seem to be blaming ows people.

I'm sorry, I only speak English.

nice rethoric , english is not my native language fyi .
En passant je suis certain que mon français est mieux que le tien.
Mais si tu repondai à ma phrase que j'ai corrigé plus haut plutôt que de faire le troll.

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And your still trying to say the OWS movement is involved in the girls overdose, wow so i guess all the girls and boyz that overdose everyday in vancouver must have been at one time members of the OWS, even before the movement started.

Your thread is so out there, and still your trying to get your point past us


Im sorry i dont get it still

Maybe if you insulf me more ill get it

I certainly never said OWS is involved in this one girl's overdose. I simply said this is the element of society that OWS attracts - the Bottom 1%.

Im sorry i dont get it still

Maybe if you insulf me more ill get it

edit on 6-11-2011 by GodefroydeBouillon because: (no reason given)

I agree, it doesn't appear you do get it.

(And I have never insulted anyone.)

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Ok so lets stay on topic here lol in your own thread, ows has nothing to do with drugs, but you say the contrayry, with no proof whats so ever,

And your still trying to attach both together...

Oh i thought that saying your trying to have an english conversation was a bit off topic lol

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Ouch, the fun aprt of this is where having a drug debate and not having a chat about the OWS

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It's clear by your ignorant and irrational signature "OWS supported the fascist warmonger Obamas War Against the Libyan people. Let them get a taste for what they support. Support police brutality against OWS." that your mind is already made up. You don't want people constantly in your face blabbing about opposing views so do us a favor and piss off already, a little jab here and there is fine but your just sitting there smashing F5 to reply to anybody who tries to offer a rebuttal.

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I can't say I'm at all associated with any of the 'occupy' protests but wow, reading your name, signature and avatar makes your whole point...contaminated.

Can't exactly say you are objective and don't have a formidable agenda.

That you are/ were a considerable supporter of Gaddaffi (regardless of the farcical 'no fly zone' and 'intervention') and are actively encouraging police brutality to protestors is a slight concern. Do you feel Gaddaffi and his mercenaries represented 99% of the people of Libya?

P.S. Just read this:

Yes, that's clear. (This is not "rhetoric" so I apologize if you were offended. It's simply a statement of fact. I don't understand the pidgin in which you write.)

You are obnoxiously attempting to act superior by having english as your first language? Congratulations. At least show some sense of perspective by engaging someone who is not difficult to understand whatsoever. You know what they are saying yet you have chosen to be obnoxious in order to simply refuse to answer the question. That is intellectual cowardice.

he is just a blatant troll , looking for excuses when we try to have a rational debate with him.
so im gonna take your way of thinking and say all supporter of gaddaffi are troll and they all like the hideous green color you might understand this time .
The 99% percent include everybody gender, sexual orientation, drug use, doesnt matter.
What matter is why they are the 99% .

Originally posted by GodefroydeBouillon
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And your point is, im sorry but if people only knew, people overdose in vancouver by the hour, but i guess that has nothing to do with the OWS, drugs are a really big issue in vancouver, that cant be on the ows either, so whats your point...

It dosent happen at tea party rallies, and it dosent happen at ows rallys, but you wouldent know right

My point is it is happening at OWS in Vancouver and all the other rapes and STD's and what not in the US, why doesn't anybody see what's wrong with this movement? We are going to listen to all these drug addicts, rapists, communists, Nazis, and so on? Let them clean up their act, otherwise they are looking for a free handout and free clinics.

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Cause the rapes didint happen, the drug stuff issint happened its all lies, and again plz bring some real proof not what you might of heard

Originally posted by GodefroydeBouillon
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

Cause the rapes didint happen, the drug stuff issint happened its all lies, and again plz bring some real proof not what you might of heard

No, the rapes happened in the States. OWS est worldwide non?

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My point is it is happening at OWS in Vancouver and all the other rapes and STD's and what not in the US, why doesn't anybody see what's wrong with this movement? We are going to listen to all these drug addicts, rapists, communists, Nazis, and so on? Let them clean up their act, otherwise they are looking for a free handout and free clinics.

I apologise, I haven't heard all your comments but from above there seems to be a considerable flaw.

Everything you mentioned are complete Ad Hominem attacks. What effect does drug addiction on a political statement? It could potentially affect the route to that statement but it doesn't make it any less true or false. Everything you mention are total 'buzzwords' to deride people- I see no aspect of the NSDAP in the occupy wall street movement, where do you get that from? You seem to have all the objectivity of Senator Mccarthy and all the evidence in your briefcase to go with it.

Should there be a sexual health test on admission to any political centre? Should chlamydia force the resignation of a political leader? They are entirely irrelevant to the validity of a political statement.

Finally, your statement implies any drug user (you don't specify, so presumably alcohol, caffeine and paracetamol all apply) should not have a vote in political affairs. If they want one they must "clean up their act", yet also say that healthcare and clinics etc. should not be free- are you then condemning all 'drug users' without considerable wealth to a lifetime without aid and without a political voice?

Originally posted by GodefroydeBouillon
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Cause the rapes didint happen, the drug stuff issint happened its all lies, and again plz bring some real proof not what you might of heard

So no girl died of an overdose of drugs inside her tent at Occupy Vancouver? It's a lie? Or it was a supposition given by someone in charge?

Originally posted by yes4141
reply to post by ThirdEyeofHorus

 

My point is it is happening at OWS in Vancouver and all the other rapes and STD's and what not in the US, why doesn't anybody see what's wrong with this movement? We are going to listen to all these drug addicts, rapists, communists, Nazis, and so on? Let them clean up their act, otherwise they are looking for a free handout and free clinics.

I apologise, I haven't heard all your comments but from above there seems to be a considerable flaw.

Everything you mentioned are complete Ad Hominem attacks. What effect does drug addiction on a political statement? It could potentially affect the route to that statement but it doesn't make it any less true or false. Everything you mention are total 'buzzwords' to deride people- I see no aspect of the NSDAP in the occupy wall street movement, where do you get that from? You seem to have all the objectivity of Senator Mccarthy and all the evidence in your briefcase to go with it.

Should there be a sexual health test on admission to any political centre? Should chlamydia force the resignation of a political leader? They are entirely irrelevant to the validity of a political statement.

Finally, your statement implies any drug user (you don't specify, so presumably alcohol, caffeine and paracetamol all apply) should not have a vote in political affairs. If they want one they must "clean up their act", yet also say that healthcare and clinics etc. should not be free- are you then condemning all 'drug users' without considerable wealth to a lifetime without aid and without a political voice?

Well, most of my viewpoints on OWS are
from what is happening in the States, and the Communist Party and the Nazi Party have joined OWS in the States. Anything Occupy worldwide is undoubtedly loosely connected to George Soros, I'm afraid, or at least got started with his support. Even Adbusters is Canadian. And I read they are Communists from Estonia. Are you going to still sit there and tell me I'm just making ad hominem attacks?
But Canada already has Socialized healthcare right? I forgot, here in the states, Obama has just started with Universal healthcare. Are the drug addicts there being taken care of?
Why are you putting caffeine in the same category as other drugs? Half the world drinks coffee.

McCarthy has nothing whatever to do with my opinion of communism and socialism, so don't bring up that strawman.


Honestly though, if the Occupy movement in Vancouver isn't similar to the OWS in the States, could you tell me what Vancouver is protesting?

Posting as a younger member here in early 20s I want to express that these OWS movements are a very vast and divorce movement, so naturally drugs are going to be involved.

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And I read they are Communists from Estonia. Are you going to still sit there and tell me I'm just making ad hominem attacks?

Well, in a sense, yes. You still come to the conclusion that these people are 'bad' and not to be trusted because of a definition of them that somebody else has placed upon them- or even if they appointed it themselves. The mere mention of 'communist' and you have denounced everything about them. Even though you know perfectly well that such a term can be/ has been falsely applied to many people.

But Canada already has Socialized healthcare right? Are the drug addicts there being taken care of?

I can't say, I have never been to Canada and have not looked into it. Yet, does this not contradict your earlier point entirely?

otherwise they are looking for a free handout and free clinics.

If they already have such care then that cannot be the motivation that you claim in that sentence.

Why are you putting caffeine in the same category as other drugs? Half the world drinks coffee.

So it is the amount of people that uses something which determines if it's dangerous or not? I'm not campaigning against coffee but if the majority say something is ok then it is safe to presume it is? This is my point.

McCarthy has nothing whatever to do with my opinion of communism and socialism, so don't bring up that strawman.

I never suggested he did in any way whatsoever. I'm saying that you used these 'buzzwords' in a similiar fashion in that the word alone conveys that something/ someone is 'bad' and not to be trusted without any consideration.

Of course the state-run media, (CBC), would try to discredit the protesters. It seems that everywhere, the protesters are being peaceful, (except for the Black Bloc in Oklahoma).
PTB are trying to discredit these peaceful, and LEGAL movements. That's why they would spread stories like this. Hell, The CBC lost all credibility in Canada when they made blatant, and false reports about the mayor of Toronto, Rob Ford.

Originally posted by moondoggy2
Of course the state-run media, (CBC), would try to discredit the protesters. It seems that everywhere, the protesters are being peaceful, (except for the Black Bloc in Oklahoma).
PTB are trying to discredit these peaceful, and LEGAL movements. That's why they would spread stories like this. Hell, The CBC lost all credibility in Canada when they made blatant, and false reports about the mayor of Toronto, Rob Ford.

It's all a conspiracy by the Greys!