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ALex Jones? Cracked out or good info??

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posted on Sep, 1 2004 @ 10:03 PM
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I have a question,

Since I am new to this deep in depth conspiracy theory thing I would like to ask you a question about Alex Jones.

I would like to ask do you guys think he is way off his rocker, or do you think he is pretty good on facts or what not.

I am asking because I have only been in this for 30 days for my own reasons, and I have seen a few people say that AJ is cracked out, stupid and so on.

My honest opinion on him is, If you can wake a few million people up listening to his "crap" then let him say whatever he feels like. The more people who wake up to the fact to the fact our gvnt isnt as cool as they once precieved.

I did look at his 10 million sites that he has, which i dont understand why he just makes everything into 1 site, but anyway. Alot of the people he has on his shows is quite good.

anyway let me know your thoughts so I dont make some lame mistake later on.

Thanx



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 02:03 AM
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Well Jonesy Boy sure don't tread lightly and if your not careful you may let his spiced up paranoia language and 'mad as hell' demeanor scare you into thinking he's an insane left-wing extremist and crazed blind conspiracy kooko-nut; but after close examination this tv larry would have to stand by Alex just about %100 when it comes to the facts and issues that he raises. You would be mad as hell too if you considered the issues he raises such as the 911/Rogue Millitary industrial Complex connections. I say right on Mr Jones- you may scare away some people initially but I have yet to remember an instance in the many many times I've heard him speak where he crossed the line into the 'well i dunno about that (half-baked theory)' zone. Of course this is my opinion, and you could certainly debate his 'mad as hell' demeanor but I say he's pretty grade A in this field...

anyone else?



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 09:06 AM
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interesting thanks for sharing.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 09:09 AM
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Jones puts out some goosd information, and it's amusing to watch/listen to him get all worked up. At least he's got the passion.

As with anything, though, check out the information he provides, see for yourself, don't just take his word for it.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 09:15 AM
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If I understand correctly what Larry is saying, I have to agree with him.

Jones comes across at a total raging lunatic, but its actualy a smart front of him imho.

His info is pritty solid and everything he ever says, he can just overload you with news reports and official documents.

My opinion on people like Jones and David Icke is that they might sound like kooks, but if you put that part of them aside and listen to the pure info they give and research further for yourself, you'll find alot of truth in what they say.

Its a very good strategy of them, to reach the people smart and investigative enough to see trough the sharade and look into the truths behind what they say. But as long as the general public has an image of them being crazy, they are safe and able to keep spreading the info.


If someone would jump out of the blue and present the world with all the info and solid proof there is to UFO's, Conspiracy's, NWO and that sort of stuff, not even 10% of the world population would be able to believe them, because they are so used to the lies that the truth just can't grasp them.

So people like Jones and Icke try to reach the people first that see trough the sharade and are capable of communicating the message to the people around them.

Awakening on a world stage is not something that can happen overnight, it takes time, but we'll get there, hopefully not to late.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 09:15 AM
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Originally posted by parrhesia
Jones puts out some goosd information, and it's amusing to watch/listen to him get all worked up. At least he's got the passion.

As with anything, though, check out the information he provides, see for yourself, don't just take his word for it.


Ya, I agree with you on that. I did think something he stated was odd, and looked it up. He was found to be telling the truth.

Thanks for the info man, its really good.

For everyone starting out in this field, I would suggest what Parrhesia stated, look up everything you think that seems far fetched.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 09:16 AM
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Jones' passion for conspiracy theories is enough for me to hear him out, but sometimes it gets in the way of rationality. He usually supports his viewpoints with some form of documentation. I'd rather he not speak as if it's factual information that has been proven but allow people to listen and research any points on their own.

I think he's basically a good guy.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 09:20 AM
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I am from Austin, Texas where Alex got his start on Local Access Television. He does tend to get a little "excited" about the things he talks about, but in his own words......."don't believe a word I say until you have checked it out for yourself". So listen to what he has to say and do just that......check the things out for yourself as I have over the past dozen or so years of knowing him. I would let Alex watch my back anytime, anyplace and I would do the same for him.

"Death to the New World Order"



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 12:56 PM
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Thanx for the input guys, helped out alot.



posted on Sep, 2 2004 @ 01:21 PM
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i think what may put off people from aj is the way he presents his case - he certainly can go over the top & is very passionate about what he does & to be honest, after a while i have really come to respect him for it. it's actually very refreshing to see someone who can get so angry & worked up about cover-ups, technology being used for bad & trying to shake people up into thinking for themselves & not just believing everything they are told on their daily news 'programs'. i dont think he will say things without investigation & analysis to back up what he says & he may not always be right in his assumptions, but then again, a few years ago i would have laughed at people who went on about microchipped societies but the technology is there now & its starting to be used. Also what he presents to do with the oklahoma city bombing is compulsive viewing as to how the real news story can be covered up & so many people believed it. like his style or not i do not think he is a crackpot.



posted on Oct, 11 2004 @ 04:55 PM
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Originally posted by tv_larry
Well Jonesy Boy sure don't tread lightly and if your not careful you may let his spiced up paranoia language and 'mad as hell' demeanor scare you into thinking he's an insane left-wing extremist and crazed blind conspiracy kooko-nut; but after close examination this tv larry would have to stand by Alex just about %100 when it comes to the facts and issues that he raises. You would be mad as hell too if you considered the issues he raises such as the 911/Rogue Millitary industrial Complex connections. I say right on Mr Jones- you may scare away some people initially but I have yet to remember an instance in the many many times I've heard him speak where he crossed the line into the 'well i dunno about that (half-baked theory)' zone. Of course this is my opinion, and you could certainly debate his 'mad as hell' demeanor but I say he's pretty grade A in this field...

anyone else?



I couldn't have said it any better myself.

It's kind of a Texas way of talking. You'll see Bill Hicks go on the same kinda rants.

Speaking of Texas, Bush is not a Texan, but I am.



posted on Oct, 12 2004 @ 07:06 AM
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Alex Jones is kinda guessing, his giving his view on whats going on.
His most likely correct. They have plan's for martial law in america, want to create a nwo order, look at iraq, afgan, sept 11, bush and the bin laden connections.



posted on Oct, 12 2004 @ 09:06 AM
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He may have a lot of info and facts but he just comes across as another conspiracy nut because of his excitable attitude.

If he remained calm and composed, he would do a lot more good for his crusade rather than turning a lot of people off because they think hes a wacko.



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 05:59 PM
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I never really seen him as outrageous,or crazy or anything...His conviction to his material certainly was a deciding aspect of why I chose to further check his information out,and from there I realized most of what he was saying was rock solid fact...Alot of people seem to want to only hear part of the story,from Alex or from me,or from whoever,and don't put the BIG picture into view-the agenda's,the coincidences,the facts,and the information to back it all up point to massive corruption on a global scale...When I myself put everything together over a few months,it began to put me in the "Alex Jones Rant" mode alot of the times,as it still does in this powderkeg of America near election times...

Look at Alex basically warning anyone who would see his broadcast on July 25th of 2001,that the "global elite" were about to use most likely Osama Bin Laden as the patsy to carry out attacks on the nations capital,and the World Trade Center buildings....He's done the same with the election,the Patriot Act,and it's successor which sits in Congress right now in deliberation to set up a database on every man woman and child,federalize the state driver license(ie:national ID),and make it impossible for an employer to hire you essentially without running your name through the Big New Database...All things Alex has "ranting" about for years...He pushed the idea of Arnold being the man for the job in 2008,and suddenly Hatch is wanting to bring a bill which would change the status of foreign born presidents in the Oval Office,with who else I'm sure in mind?...Doesn't seem to far off to have ScharzenHitler taking control if our continually more "secure" country keeps going in its police state fashion...

The one thing I stress the most to people when I talk to them about such topics,is to look up the information-whether it be Alex's site,or just any random google search,and BE OPEN MINDED....Look at the big picture...



posted on Oct, 14 2004 @ 06:22 PM
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ive just been listening to this guy on talksport uk,he seems to care deeply about what hes saying.i was very impressed with what he had to say......



posted on Dec, 30 2008 @ 01:31 AM
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Originally posted by thematrix
If I understand correctly what Larry is saying, I have to agree with him.

Jones comes across at a total raging lunatic, but its actualy a smart front of him imho.

His info is pritty solid and everything he ever says, he can just overload you with news reports and official documents.

My opinion on people like Jones and David Icke is that they might sound like kooks, but if you put that part of them aside and listen to the pure info they give and research further for yourself, you'll find alot of truth in what they say.
Its a very good strategy of them, to reach the people smart and investigative enough to see trough the sharade and look into the truths behind what they say. But as long as the general public has an image of them being crazy, they are safe and able to keep spreading the info.
If someone would jump out of the blue and present the world with all the info and solid proof there is to UFO's, Conspiracy's, NWO and that sort of stuff, not even 10% of the world population would be able to believe them, because they are so used to the lies that the truth just can't grasp them.

So people like Jones and Icke try to reach the people first that see trough the sharade and are capable of communicating the message to the people around them.
Awakening on a world stage is not something that can happen overnight, it takes time, but we'll get there, hopefully not to late.


For some he may initially come across as that, deppending on when they may tune in, but what they do with their one & only lives is up to them. You have some great points, but if the truth can be told as to be understood, it will be believed.

I came into all of this from a website about world mysteries, & they had a page on the disclosure project. - I then went from there, & I first saw I think Bohemian grove, & then many other films, & some of them were Alex Jones films. Naturally, I checked out their site, saw the radio show, & I've been listening everyday for the past 7 years. - It's not the only anti-NWO show though... There are many others, & I enjoy the paracast & many other shows, & what I noticed is that I don't agree with EVERYTHING, & I understand that nobody is absolutely correct...


My post on my forum to someone that was attacking AJ, & then me as well, because I was not delusionally irrational like her explains a lot:

Nobody is expected to agree with everything anyone says; but if you limit yourself by not looking into the information yourself & not listening to what a particular individual has to say based on what are merely your perceptions of the person, you leave yourself in the dust as civilization consequently rusts. It does not have to be this way; Humanity; PLEASE cease the Ad hominem attacks, & we will be able to fight back...

"People get obsessed with the messenger, & too many fail to see the INFORMATION & look at the documents that are posted by the government themselves! Subconsciously, they make a decision that it may be too scary to fight this, so they assume the messenger to be crazy of wrong."
- Alex Jones, compiled

- Update, Dec. 29 2008: You said below
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The many millions of near judgment-proof people should KEEP their money and stock up on food. And that's NOT the expensive food supply crap Alex advertises, but whatever is ON SALE at the local supermarket.
The storable foods are what you will be wishing you had when the dollar is worthless and grocery stores are empty. - AND THAT'S STRAIGHT FROM AN AD ON THE ALEX JONES SHOW, thank you very much. You mention 'on sale', but that just shows you that they are making all kinds of profit, & most of what is on sale is crap, full of MSG, etc. With food shortages, hoarding could be outlawed.

What we need is to be independent & self- sufficient!

I recommend that people invest what they can in gold, instead of buying overpriced food & goods that you could grow or make yourself. but keep some cash as well obviously. You can hoard your money if you like, but it will only be good for toilet paper shortly as the dollar is being artificially devalued by the second, as people just watch TV & fail to take action. When you can't afford toilet paper, you will have something to clean yourself with. I'm not trying to be rude, it's just the truth. I cannot change that alone. It's a little something called the Federal Reserve which is a private offshore entity located in England. The world bank and all other forms of manipulation and distractions which cause irrational reactions such as the very post i'm replying to now are also culptripts at hand.

Many people endorse Alex Jones for obvious reasons. Obsessive, personal attacks because I endorse Alex Jones were made, & the individual clearly did not act nor think rationally. This is not tolerated, & I won't descibe the many ways this makes me feel, for many reasons.

It's a real shame that some people have very little rationality these days.

Read the rest of this post here: criticalunity.org... (sorry, It's not a plug, it's just that it's too complicated to copy all the good points in that post).

Happy New year everyone!

- And oh: How about we ALL become the messenger; If it becomes a common thing to openly disguss what are serious, important & interesting subjects, hip & COOL (as it is) in the eyes of public, the masses may be able to awaken to what is REALLY going on & we can avoid further manipulation. - especially a world government.

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posted on Dec, 30 2008 @ 01:39 AM
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Originally posted by Flyer
He may have a lot of info and facts but he just comes across as another conspiracy nut because of his excitable attitude.

If he remained calm and composed, he would do a lot more good for his crusade rather than turning a lot of people off because they think hes a wacko.


Well, that's why we need more calm syndicators, but imagine being him; Are you going to sit & calmly talk about all this? .. Think about it... How long could you keep from getting fired up? We shouldn't be judging people!



posted on Dec, 30 2008 @ 01:45 AM
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Alex Jones revisited huh...

Here's another Alex Jones Thread on ATS

And another...

And another...

You guessed, one more ATS Alex jones Thread...

Then there's this one...

Don't forget this one too...

This one here's not the last by any count...

The number of Alex Jones and/or *is he cracked or not* threads on ATS is endless... Just sayin...

He's a good man with a goal to wake up the sheeple and warn them of the truth as he sees it.

My biggest problem with Alex?

He never talks about how to save the States, just how it's dying.



*P*E*A*C*E*



posted on Dec, 30 2008 @ 02:13 AM
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Just take him as a messenger for paranoid people. He has good ideas about the government but I would think there are people far more credible than he is in terms of how far conspiracies go. I used to like him but I only liked him because I used his arguments with my bias and it strengthened my anti-Bush views. But now I see him just raging with a lot of false-hoods or that I just see that he's just anti-government. I listened to him on coast to coast and some of the things he said really offended me. I just take what he says with a grain of salt.



posted on May, 6 2009 @ 07:08 PM
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Hello OP,

Just because somebody is passionate about their beliefs does not mean that they are not completely bat# insane.
Case in point Alex Jones.
Illuminati, Fema camps, etc. etc. etc.



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